CSWCash announces: Genesis Program - 100% Payouts!! - GoFuckYourself.com

Tam · 02-26-2004, 10:50 PM

That's right!!! I said 100% payouts to YOU!!! FOR THE LIFE OF THE SURFER!!!
CSWCASH is proud to announce our new GENESIS Program!!!

Under the GENESIS Program you pay a $200.00 per month flat fee and you keep 100% of ALL sales and recurring!!! So for less than your paying in rent on that big screen tv every month or a really good night on the town you can buy into UNLIMITED EARNING POTENTIAL!!! "The sky is the limit!!" You can pick 1 or all 20 CSWCASH sites to promote and YOU keep 100% of ALL signups you get!!! + ALL recurring sales!!!

We host the sites
We supply downloadable galleries
We supply content
We Update ALL sites
We Pay the VISA fees
YOU make "$$$"

We will be limiting this NEW program to 100 webmasters in this inital release. So SIGN UP NOW!!! This gives us the opportunity to work closely with YOU as we fine tune the Program to get the MOST out of your traffic!!!
To be considered for approval, please contact support or ICQ Tam at 423517 or K. C. at 121760557

Here at CSWCASH we are always striving to push over that edge and go into new territory to maximize OUR earnings as well as YOURS!!! With the new GENESIS Program we have done just that!!! No more worries of shaving or shady sponsors..... YOU GET IT ALL!!! We provide the sites and promotion materials and YOU supply the traffic and sales!!! As you all know its getting harder and harder to make a honest buck in this industry..... This program cuts thru ALL the bullshit and puts YOU in charge for the first time!!!

BEFORE you go screaming that I am shaving, DON'T...... when you login to your CCBill Accounts, you can look and see that we haven't limited the recurring or anything, this is straight up and all 100% honest!

If you have any questions or want to be considered for the Genesis Program, please contact me and I will give you further information.

For NON-Genesis Program Affiliates, we will still have the Revshare and PPS Programs and we have added a Rewards Program for YOU!!

Thanks..... and NO I have NOT lost my fucking mind!! LOL

Adult Site Traffic · 02-26-2004, 10:51 PM

This idea is going to be great in so many ways..

Yes, at first glance it looks like you need to lay out money before seeing a return, and that's exactly the way it is.

This program is not for everyone. If you're not already running a successful promotion program and making a nice living in the adult business, it may not be for you.

On the other hand, there are plenty of webmasters making a very good living promoting pay sites. If this describes you, then this program is for you.

You already make a nice living doing this. At $25.00 to $30.00 (100%) of our program cost and 100% of recurring, you'd need 16 or 13 sales or rebills (respectivly) to make 100% of everything clear. Not counting future sales price increases. That would make the overall amount of sales lowered.

It's not that hard, I made 38 sales myself and I suck at it.

Those webmasters making at least 1 sale per day are going to greatly benefit from this program.

Some restrictions do apply to it, because we want only the serious webmasters on board with the 100% + 100% program.

For those who don't feel they're quite ready, we still and always offer out PPS and 50% revshare programs to you.

http://www.cswcash.com

kronic · 02-26-2004, 10:52 PM

VERY interesting concept Tam.

Best of luck!

B40 · 02-26-2004, 10:54 PM

Interesting idea...good luck with it

TurboAngel · 02-26-2004, 10:54 PM

That's great Tam. Everything is falling in place for ya.

tbabe · 02-26-2004, 10:54 PM

hmmmm well, its definately different than other programs

Brujah · 02-26-2004, 10:55 PM

Wha?? Whats the catch ?

Tam · 02-26-2004, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Wha?? Whats the catch ?

I was ready for this...... there is NO catch!! We have one exit console on our sites and upsells in the members areas..... THAT is where our money will come from.. and of course the $200 per affiliate! That's it!! Honestly, there is NOT a catch anywhere!

Adult Site Traffic · 02-26-2004, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam
Honestly, there is NOT a catch anywhere!

Absolutely correct.

With the amount of customers this program can send in and the fact we've already covered the bandwidth costs we can certainly host the member = profit for us as well as heavily increased profits for the webmasters.

As an added effort on ccBill's part, every webmaster can now confirm payment status at any time. You can easily see program payment options now, this is a very good thing.

Mike AI · 02-26-2004, 11:03 PM

Wow sounds like Club 100!!

Sweet T, time to get some new tours!!

Tam · 02-26-2004, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
Wow sounds like Club 100!!

Sweet T, time to get some new tours!!

We have been watching sales, traffic and everything very closely..... and correcting weak spots as we see them. So this is all good.

And who is Club 100? I have never heard of that one before.

tbabe · 02-26-2004, 11:08 PM

http://web.archive.org/web/199812030...com/index.html

hehehe anyone remember this one?

Adult Site Traffic · 02-26-2004, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
Sweet T, time to get some new tours!!

If you (or anyone) wants to do this, decide on your site(s) and hit one of us up for content.

Once it's approved, we'll upload and you're ready to go.

All join links in your private tour will be hardcoded to join so you can send traffic direct without an affiliate code if you wish.

Adult Site Traffic · 02-26-2004, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbabe
http://web.archive.org/web/199812030...com/index.html
hehehe anyone remember this one?

The difference here is you're working with support people who've been in this industry making a nice living for quite a while.

Besides, this is an exclusive program, invitation if you will..

Also this is a program that has a nice flow of member traffic already.

Win - Win

Tam · 02-26-2004, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbabe
http://web.archive.org/web/199812030...com/index.html

hehehe anyone remember this one?

wow..... no I never seen that. LOL

Strife · 02-26-2004, 11:21 PM

sounds like a sweet deal

Observing · 02-26-2004, 11:41 PM

I dont exactly want to trash this idea as it seems ok really, but I am reluctant to try this out myself, for a few reasons. First of all your sites don't look to me as if they retain, it's all bought content nothing exclusive, the surfers really are on to that (check ARS new changes). Also the initial signups seems to be extremely hard to convert especially through galleries or tgp and if we also have to compete on a console after paying you $200 then it's a bit less no doubt. Also I would have to pay $200 a month to be able to promote the site and like me I'm sure a lot of others promote several sponsors and rotate them and perhaps do not have to rely on too much on one sponsor, this would force anyone to worry about making their money back with you.

Let's say that one person does 10 signups with you, then that would probably be $240 with fees etc., now $200 goes to you and the webmaster is left with $40, if however ALL 10 rebill (you think?) then you have just made $280 (think they will keep rebilling?) then lets say 5 more rebill the month after that then the webmaster has made a whopping $400. Now this would be alright for me if I actually believed that this many would rebill, instead I could of course take a $35 pps and get $350 paid out up front right away on TRIAL signups as well.

I realize you are saying that ppl should of course send a lot more sign-ups but I also realize that either way, in order for this program to be successful for me or anyone else, 50% of the surfers that signup have to let themselves get rebilled, and I'm sorry but for your sites I dont see that happening, no offense.

I'm just thinking out loud here and not really trying to start with you, serious webmasters who push a shitload of sign-ups might consider this at least for a month to check retention because that IS what it all comes down to imo, either way, very nice new idea though

kush · 02-26-2004, 11:52 PM

With any new idea, people are always reluctant to try it.

I suggest you offer webmasters the free opportunity to look inside for the members' areas for themselves so they can feel confident in promoting the product. If a webmaster is worried there is not enough quality content, or perhaps if they are worried there are too many upsells, then giving the opportunity to decide for themsevles by actually seeing inside seems like an excellent way to make an affiliate feel confident about the rebills and the program.

If the webmaster is confident with the quality of the inside of the members' area, there is a greater chance they will use the program.

just my

Adult Site Traffic · 02-26-2004, 11:56 PM

Actually, several of our sites have 100% exclusive to us content.

One of the model sites is 100% exclusive to the program and has never even taken her clothes off for the camera until about 2 weeks ago.

The console is an exit, not enter. If we give you console free + 100% that wouldn't really add up.

If they exit, they didn't buy. Even if they do come back to the site through your tour or your page and join, then you get paid, 100% ..

$200.00 goes to us to be eligible for this program, it doesn't come out of your intial sales at any point. This is the very best wat to make sure that guy who's going to send 10 sales doesn't get burned. We don't know what you can do, and if you (any webmaster I mean) doesn't, then this sure isn't a program they will want to test.

Believe it or not, there are webmasters makinf $10,000 per month + promoting porn. This program is for them.

The sites retain fine. I started promoting pre-launch in November and I have not had one week since mid-December I wasn't paid for at least one re-bill (as an affiliate, not as an owner). This week I was paid for 3 rebills, and I have a lot to do besides sell memberships. In fact, I kind of suck at it. I sell traffic

This program isn't really for the 10 or 20 signup webmaster like me. This program is for the big boys.

As little memberships as I do promote, I only promote recurring, never pps if given the choice.

Tam · 02-27-2004, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush
With any new idea, people are always reluctant to try it.

I suggest you offer webmasters the free opportunity to look inside for the members' areas for themselves so they can feel confident in promoting the product. If a webmaster is worried there is not enough quality content, or perhaps if they are worried there are too many upsells, then giving the opportunity to decide for themsevles by actually seeing inside seems like an excellent way to make an affiliate feel confident about the rebills and the program.

If the webmaster is confident with the quality of the inside of the members' area, there is a greater chance they will use the program.

just my

This has ALWAYS been something we practice, anyone who's ever come and ask us to see the members areas have gotten full access ASAP. So this isn't a problem. Our upsells aren't overbearing and we don't log them into a shitload of upsells, but rather a shitload of content with a text link table of upsells only on the main page of the members area......... in fact, we have built our own plugin with a massive amount of content to keep from using a tonof feeds and upsells.

Our retention has been, as KC says, pretty damn good..... and we have no problems whatsoever allowing you a temp pass to check out what you are selling

As a Member of the Genesis Program, I have just been told by my designer that we can also do you up some custom templates for galleries if you need them........... you WILL get the royal treatment...... as if you weren't getting it before, but we ARE and always have taken great pride in our support system both with webmasters and surfers.

Adult Site Traffic · 02-27-2004, 12:07 AM

Oh and ..

We haven't had one chargeback except for that one bad check 2 weeks or so ago.

Honest.

Not that I think we well go forever without chargebacks ..

But so far, the 1% thing is looking just fine for me.

VeriSexy · 02-27-2004, 12:09 AM

Very interesting concept

You sure this will work out in the long run? What about bandwidth? $200 won't cover that

Tam · 02-27-2004, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy
Very interesting concept You sure this will work out in the long run? What about bandwidth? $200 won't cover that

We're braced for this.....

Adult Site Traffic · 02-27-2004, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy
Very interesting concept You sure this will work out in the long run? What about bandwidth? $200 won't cover that

I burn a little bandwidth myself :-) I kinda know how much surfing it's gonna take to burn $200 and my personal bandwidth is priced more than the paysite server BW.

If you can send enough credit card holding, porn buying members to our sites to use up $200.00 in members area bandwidth per month, (per webmaster) then please kick it up a few notches

How many members does it take to burn $200.00 in members content bandwidth, then how many did not buy and hit the exit console?

Truthfully, if you can burn $200.00 + of our bandwidth we're still going to make money.

tbabe · 02-27-2004, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam

wow..... no I never seen that. LOL

LOL ya, I remember when serge launched that with huge fanfare. I never promoted it, so i dont know how long it lasted.

But, your program is different, the 200 dollar fee is an interesting twist

Adult Site Traffic · 02-27-2004, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbabe
LOL ya, I remember when serge launched that with huge fanfare. I never promoted it, so i dont know how long it lasted.

But, your program is different, the 200 dollar fee is an interesting twist

I think she went to bed and I'm about to also, but we'll be back to support this thread for as long as it takes.

#1 We didn't feel we could rely only on upsells (toys etc) to pay the bills on 0% on our end. We also pay 50% of those processing fees right off the top, so it's like we're really paying about 107.5% when we look at the books .

We decided to do that $200.00 for a lot of reasons. Not really to KEEP people out, because the webmasters who really make the sales will see the value in it. There is BW to pay and other bills, content etc .. This covers that and allows webmasters to make 100% right off the top.

It will also ensure that we will be able to offer it and not see that part of the program fail.

We have a lot of dam content in there. Everything I ever collected is accessable from every site + 2 complete other content stores + pay for feeds. It really could add up in bandwidth easily if someone was sending a lot of joins.

There will be a lot of people who just do not like this idea, and that's fine. But, it will work for the heavies, and work very well.

tbabe · 02-27-2004, 12:55 AM

good luck with it, nice to see something a little different

psyko514 · 02-27-2004, 01:01 AM

i think it's a really cool concept

good luck to whoever uses it!

Maximillion · 02-27-2004, 01:52 AM

interesting concept.

Niko · 02-27-2004, 03:59 AM

Nice concept, definitely
Is it for those who promote you via CCBill, Verotel or both?

Tam · 02-27-2004, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Niko
Nice concept, definitely
Is it for those who promote you via CCBill, Verotel or both?

Good morning folks.....

Niko, this is only for CCBill. Sorry.

Thanks for the kind words guy, we appreciate your support on this, as usual.

Nat · 02-27-2004, 05:14 AM

damn, this soudns intreresting.....!

iwantchixx · 02-27-2004, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
This idea is going to be great in so many ways..

Yes, at first glance it looks like you need to lay out money before seeing a return, and that's exactly the way it is.

This program is not for everyone. If you're not already running a successful promotion program and making a nice living in the adult business, it may not be for you.

On the other hand, there are plenty of webmasters making a very good living promoting pay sites. If this describes you, then this program is for you.

You already make a nice living doing this. At $25.00 to $30.00 (100%) of our program cost and 100% of recurring, you'd need 16 or 13 sales or rebills (respectivly) to make 100% of everything clear. Not counting future sales price increases. That would make the overall amount of sales lowered.

It's not that hard, I made 38 sales myself and I suck at it.

Those webmasters making at least 1 sale per day are going to greatly benefit from this program.

Some restrictions do apply to it, because we want only the serious webmasters on board with the 100% + 100% program.

For those who don't feel they're quite ready, we still and always offer out PPS and 50% revshare programs to you.

http://www.cswcash.com

Wouldn't it be more like 10 sales needed to break even with their own bandwidth costs and $200 fee??

sherie · 02-27-2004, 09:35 AM

Congrats Tam. I am sure that it will be successful.

Minte · 02-27-2004, 09:49 AM

Interesting concept.. i will give it a try..and let you know after a few months how it's working

SongRider · 02-27-2004, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nat
damn, this soudns intreresting.....!

Its really simple... we basically lease our sites to the webmasters monthly for a real good price and the webmasters re-sell to the surfers for all they can get.... we make our money off the lease and a few NON-intrusive up-sales in the member areas!!!

Whats got people stunned is the fact that its new.... so everyone is looking for the "angle" on it.... but its just simple wholesale marketing!

Adult Site Traffic · 02-27-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
Wouldn't it be more like 10 sales needed to break even with their own bandwidth costs and $200 fee??

No not really, because they're working against a 50% base already.

What I mean is, only 50% of the initial sales could really be counted against the $200.00 because they already get 50% for free. They're paying for the additional 50%.

I don't even understand what I just wrote .. but ..

If they pay $200.00, they would need to net $400.00 to get where they would be at 50% recurring + recoup the $200.00

It may not be 16 or 13 sales exactly, especially if we raise the price, number of requires sales to break would be lowered.

candyflip · 02-27-2004, 10:33 AM

Would we be able to build tours/sites using your content and backends. Something like this I would be interested in for sure.

Tam · 02-27-2004, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
Would we be able to build tours/sites using your content and backends. Something like this I would be interested in for sure.

Sure, KC mentioned this up there before, we'll supply you with whatever tools you need...... and host the tours for you on the domains for the sites you are promoting. When you buy into this, you get the tools you need to do it. This is why we are doing this with only a very select few. We screen each and every member of the Genesis Program. This is basically an "elite" group, in that we will KNOW who you are and you will know who WE are before anything is ever accepted on either end. As I said, we've already gone above and beyond on support, and we will on this as well. I'd love to say we'll give you royal treatment, but we already do that here.

No one has ever emailed or icq'd me and had to wait more than a couple of hours at MAX for a response..... so this has always been something we are about..... and if you are selling my product, then it is my duty to make sure you have the tools to sell it to the best of your ability.

Adult Site Traffic · 02-27-2004, 11:54 AM

Not exactly like the conventional build your own tour with respect to: Other webmasters will not be able to promote your tour (unless they want you to be paid for their sales).

kios · 02-27-2004, 11:57 AM

Wow never thought of something like this. Very nice innovative idea!

Good luck with it!

Raven · 02-27-2004, 12:00 PM

You go, Tam!

Kimmykim · 02-27-2004, 12:21 PM

Clickermint and Club 100 were very different from each other.

Tam · 02-27-2004, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kios
Wow never thought of something like this. Very nice innovative idea! Good luck with it!

Why thank you......

Raven, I am going alright.... you wanna go with me? LMAO

I STILL never had heard about this clickermint and club 100 thing. I guess I have been under a rock longer than I thought. lol

GonZo · 02-27-2004, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam

We have been watching sales, traffic and everything very closely..... and correcting weak spots as we see them. So this is all good.

And who is Club 100? I have never heard of that one before.

Whos Club 100? hahahahahaahhaahahaahhaha

You is a PLAYA!

stocktrader23 · 02-27-2004, 12:36 PM

Great fucking idea. I wouldn't bother explaining to the dolts around here though, the people that would make money with this will see the value in it as soon as they read your post.

BradM · 02-27-2004, 12:41 PM

This looks very promising. BEST of luck on this program. It will do well.

Tam · 02-27-2004, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GonZo

Whos Club 100? hahahahahaahhaahahaahhaha

You is a PLAYA!

I swear to god, I have never heard of that in my life..... if I had, I'd tell you I had, but that I am better or some shit.... rotfl

stocktrader, thanks babe. I think MOST are thinking there is a catch, and there really isn't one anywhere. Honestly.

ibuydomains · 02-27-2004, 12:46 PM

Hm, how many webmasters have signed up so far?

iwantchixx · 02-27-2004, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

No not really, because they're working against a 50% base already.

What I mean is, only 50% of the initial sales could really be counted against the $200.00 because they already get 50% for free. They're paying for the additional 50%.

I don't even understand what I just wrote .. but ..

If they pay $200.00, they would need to net $400.00 to get where they would be at 50% recurring + recoup the $200.00

It may not be 16 or 13 sales exactly, especially if we raise the price, number of requires sales to break would be lowered.

ok your looking at it THAAAAAAt way. Gotcha. I tried to figure it out loud to Tam last night but I confused myself and walked away LOL

02-26-2004, 10:51 PM	#2
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	This idea is going to be great in so many ways.. Yes, at first glance it looks like you need to lay out money before seeing a return, and that's exactly the way it is. This program is not for everyone. If you're not already running a successful promotion program and making a nice living in the adult business, it may not be for you. On the other hand, there are plenty of webmasters making a very good living promoting pay sites. If this describes you, then this program is for you. You already make a nice living doing this. At $25.00 to $30.00 (100%) of our program cost and 100% of recurring, you'd need 16 or 13 sales or rebills (respectivly) to make 100% of everything clear. Not counting future sales price increases. That would make the overall amount of sales lowered. It's not that hard, I made 38 sales myself and I suck at it. Those webmasters making at least 1 sale per day are going to greatly benefit from this program. Some restrictions do apply to it, because we want only the serious webmasters on board with the 100% + 100% program. For those who don't feel they're quite ready, we still and always offer out PPS and 50% revshare programs to you. http://www.cswcash.com __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::. Last edited by Adult Site Traffic; 02-26-2004 at 10:55 PM..

02-26-2004, 10:54 PM	#4
B40 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7,020	Interesting idea...good luck with it __________________

02-26-2004, 10:54 PM	#6
tbabe Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,494	hmmmm well, its definately different than other programs __________________ Still one of the best programs on the net. According to their banner, you can get rich.

02-26-2004, 10:55 PM	#7
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Wha?? Whats the catch ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

02-26-2004, 11:03 PM	#10
Mike AI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Elysian Fields Posts: 3,624	Wow sounds like Club 100!! Sweet T, time to get some new tours!! __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

02-26-2004, 10:50 PM	#1
Tam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,488	CSWCash announces: Genesis Program - 100% Payouts!! That's right!!! I said 100% payouts to YOU!!! FOR THE LIFE OF THE SURFER!!! CSWCASH is proud to announce our new GENESIS Program!!! Under the GENESIS Program you pay a $200.00 per month flat fee and you keep 100% of ALL sales and recurring!!! So for less than your paying in rent on that big screen tv every month or a really good night on the town you can buy into UNLIMITED EARNING POTENTIAL!!! "The sky is the limit!!" You can pick 1 or all 20 CSWCASH sites to promote and YOU keep 100% of ALL signups you get!!! + ALL recurring sales!!! We host the sites We supply downloadable galleries We supply content We Update ALL sites We Pay the VISA fees YOU make "$$$" We will be limiting this NEW program to 100 webmasters in this inital release. So SIGN UP NOW!!! This gives us the opportunity to work closely with YOU as we fine tune the Program to get the MOST out of your traffic!!! To be considered for approval, please contact support or ICQ Tam at 423517 or K. C. at 121760557 Here at CSWCASH we are always striving to push over that edge and go into new territory to maximize OUR earnings as well as YOURS!!! With the new GENESIS Program we have done just that!!! No more worries of shaving or shady sponsors..... YOU GET IT ALL!!! We provide the sites and promotion materials and YOU supply the traffic and sales!!! As you all know its getting harder and harder to make a honest buck in this industry..... This program cuts thru ALL the bullshit and puts YOU in charge for the first time!!! BEFORE you go screaming that I am shaving, DON'T...... when you login to your CCBill Accounts, you can look and see that we haven't limited the recurring or anything, this is straight up and all 100% honest! If you have any questions or want to be considered for the Genesis Program, please contact me and I will give you further information. For NON-Genesis Program Affiliates, we will still have the Revshare and PPS Programs and we have added a Rewards Program for YOU!! Thanks..... and NO I have NOT lost my fucking mind!! LOL

02-26-2004, 10:52 PM	#3
kronic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 964	VERY interesting concept Tam. Best of luck!

02-26-2004, 10:54 PM	#5
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	That's great Tam. Everything is falling in place for ya.

02-26-2004, 11:08 PM	#12
tbabe Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,494	http://web.archive.org/web/199812030...com/index.html hehehe anyone remember this one? __________________ Still one of the best programs on the net. According to their banner, you can get rich.

02-26-2004, 11:21 PM	#16
Strife Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 4,534	sounds like a sweet deal __________________ Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet

02-26-2004, 11:41 PM	#17
Observing Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 809	I dont exactly want to trash this idea as it seems ok really, but I am reluctant to try this out myself, for a few reasons. First of all your sites don't look to me as if they retain, it's all bought content nothing exclusive, the surfers really are on to that (check ARS new changes). Also the initial signups seems to be extremely hard to convert especially through galleries or tgp and if we also have to compete on a console after paying you $200 then it's a bit less no doubt. Also I would have to pay $200 a month to be able to promote the site and like me I'm sure a lot of others promote several sponsors and rotate them and perhaps do not have to rely on too much on one sponsor, this would force anyone to worry about making their money back with you. Let's say that one person does 10 signups with you, then that would probably be $240 with fees etc., now $200 goes to you and the webmaster is left with $40, if however ALL 10 rebill (you think?) then you have just made $280 (think they will keep rebilling?) then lets say 5 more rebill the month after that then the webmaster has made a whopping $400. Now this would be alright for me if I actually believed that this many would rebill, instead I could of course take a $35 pps and get $350 paid out up front right away on TRIAL signups as well. I realize you are saying that ppl should of course send a lot more sign-ups but I also realize that either way, in order for this program to be successful for me or anyone else, 50% of the surfers that signup have to let themselves get rebilled, and I'm sorry but for your sites I dont see that happening, no offense. I'm just thinking out loud here and not really trying to start with you, serious webmasters who push a shitload of sign-ups might consider this at least for a month to check retention because that IS what it all comes down to imo, either way, very nice new idea though __________________ ICQ: 278-457-533

02-26-2004, 11:52 PM	#18
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	With any new idea, people are always reluctant to try it. I suggest you offer webmasters the free opportunity to look inside for the members' areas for themselves so they can feel confident in promoting the product. If a webmaster is worried there is not enough quality content, or perhaps if they are worried there are too many upsells, then giving the opportunity to decide for themsevles by actually seeing inside seems like an excellent way to make an affiliate feel confident about the rebills and the program. If the webmaster is confident with the quality of the inside of the members' area, there is a greater chance they will use the program. just my

02-26-2004, 11:56 PM	#19
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Actually, several of our sites have 100% exclusive to us content. One of the model sites is 100% exclusive to the program and has never even taken her clothes off for the camera until about 2 weeks ago. The console is an exit, not enter. If we give you console free + 100% that wouldn't really add up. If they exit, they didn't buy. Even if they do come back to the site through your tour or your page and join, then you get paid, 100% .. $200.00 goes to us to be eligible for this program, it doesn't come out of your intial sales at any point. This is the very best wat to make sure that guy who's going to send 10 sales doesn't get burned. We don't know what you can do, and if you (any webmaster I mean) doesn't, then this sure isn't a program they will want to test. Believe it or not, there are webmasters makinf $10,000 per month + promoting porn. This program is for them. The sites retain fine. I started promoting pre-launch in November and I have not had one week since mid-December I wasn't paid for at least one re-bill (as an affiliate, not as an owner). This week I was paid for 3 rebills, and I have a lot to do besides sell memberships. In fact, I kind of suck at it. I sell traffic This program isn't really for the 10 or 20 signup webmaster like me. This program is for the big boys. As little memberships as I do promote, I only promote recurring, never pps if given the choice. __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

02-27-2004, 12:07 AM	#21
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Oh and .. We haven't had one chargeback except for that one bad check 2 weeks or so ago. Honest. Not that I think we well go forever without chargebacks .. But so far, the 1% thing is looking just fine for me. __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

02-27-2004, 12:09 AM	#22
VeriSexy Join The Royal Family Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 25,463	Very interesting concept You sure this will work out in the long run? What about bandwidth? $200 won't cover that __________________ Looking for a KICK ASS TEEN SPONSOR? Check out ROYAL CASH - THE KING OF TEEN! Incredible webmaster tools FHGs, Morphing Blog and RSS Feeds, Embedded FLV & WMV Videos. With TOP RATIO Sites like TeenStarsOnly.com - Earn $$ with our New Site & Bonus Payouts!! ATMovs.com \| iTeenVideo.com \| TeenSexMovs.com \| TeenSexMania.com

02-27-2004, 12:55 AM	#27
tbabe Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,494	good luck with it, nice to see something a little different __________________ Still one of the best programs on the net. According to their banner, you can get rich.

02-27-2004, 01:01 AM	#28
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	i think it's a really cool concept good luck to whoever uses it! __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

02-27-2004, 01:52 AM	#29
Maximillion Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: scrooge mcducks money bin Posts: 795	interesting concept. __________________ Only $600 bucks for this premium domain: email maximillion76 -at- gmail (Not to be confused with Topbucks' "AllGayRealityPass.com")

02-27-2004, 03:59 AM	#30
Niko Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: on top of the world Posts: 120	Nice concept, definitely Is it for those who promote you via CCBill, Verotel or both?

02-27-2004, 05:14 AM	#32
Nat Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 553	damn, this soudns intreresting.....!

02-27-2004, 09:35 AM	#34
sherie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,020	Congrats Tam. I am sure that it will be successful. __________________ AIM sherierocks ICQ 127-296-286 Skype traffichor

02-27-2004, 09:49 AM	#35
Minte Babemeister Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Madison Posts: 7,081	Interesting concept.. i will give it a try..and let you know after a few months how it's working __________________ You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

02-27-2004, 10:33 AM	#38
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	Would we be able to build tours/sites using your content and backends. Something like this I would be interested in for sure. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

02-27-2004, 11:54 AM	#40
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Not exactly like the conventional build your own tour with respect to: Other webmasters will not be able to promote your tour (unless they want you to be paid for their sales). __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

02-27-2004, 11:57 AM	#41
kios Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 544	Wow never thought of something like this. Very nice innovative idea! Good luck with it! __________________ <center><a href="http://www.playboycash.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://lens.gofuckyourself.com/lens/pbc-sig1.gif" border="0"></a><br /> <font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">New XXX Sites, New $10/month sites, new hosted gallleries, hell it's all new!</center></font></p>

02-27-2004, 12:00 PM	#42
Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	You go, Tam! __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~

02-27-2004, 12:21 PM	#43
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Clickermint and Club 100 were very different from each other.

02-27-2004, 12:36 PM	#46
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Great fucking idea. I wouldn't bother explaining to the dolts around here though, the people that would make money with this will see the value in it as soon as they read your post. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

02-27-2004, 12:41 PM	#47
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	This looks very promising. BEST of luck on this program. It will do well.

02-27-2004, 12:46 PM	#49
ibuydomains Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 710	Hm, how many webmasters have signed up so far?