Yo, Who Saw The Cops Shoot This Fool On TV This Morning?

[Greg B]

L.A. Officers Kill Suspect as Viewers Watch on TV
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By Richard Winton and Kevin Pang Times Staff Writers

Los Angeles police shot and killed a robbery suspect on live TV at the end of a 90-minute car chase early Monday, firing into a rear windshield as the driver slowly backed his car toward officers in front of Santa Monica High School.




Nicholas Hans Killinger, 23, of Malibu died an hour after three Los Angeles police officers, "fearing for their lives," fired into the back window of his Ford Tempo, said Lt. Art Miller.


"The suspect could have ended this situation at any time," said Miller. "But instead he chose to reverse his car into the officers." The officers, not yet identified, are from the Hollywood and Rampart divisions.


Killinger's family, including some who saw the 5:54 a.m. shooting on TV as it happened, questioned the deadly police response. Five local TV stations aired the chase and shooting.


"Why did they have to shoot him so many times?" asked Emma Jean Killinger, the man's aunt. Killinger lived with her family in Malibu for the last three or four months, she said.


"I was shocked," she said, "because he was supposed to come home last night."


Los Angeles Police Chief William J. Bratton pledged that his investigators will review the shooting "with a fine-tooth comb" to determine whether it conformed to department guidelines. Police can use deadly force to protect themselves or others "from immediate threat of death or serious bodily harm."


Bratton has been seeking to restrict the LAPD (news - web sites)'s deadly force guidelines that now allow officers to shoot at vehicles that pose a threat. Other departments have banned the practice, citing the danger to innocent bystanders.


LAPD policy states that shooting "at or from a moving vehicle is generally prohibited," except as a last resort.


"We are going to modify the existing policy," Bratton said. Any such change of policy requires Police Commission approval.


The Los Angeles district attorney's office and the Santa Monica Police Department are investigating the incident, which began at an Agoura Hills gas station about 4:30 a.m.


Killinger, armed with a knife, is suspected of tying up the gas station attendant and stealing $180 from the register, authorities said. Killinger was convicted in 2003 for assault with a deadly weapon, court records show.


Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies were alerted, and they spotted Killinger driving east on the Ventura Freeway through Sherman Oaks.


The chase was taken over by the California Highway Patrol. When Killinger left the freeway in Hollywood, LAPD officers took over the pursuit.


For more than an hour, Killinger sped through side streets and drove on the wrong side of the road.


"Along the way he threw out the money," Miller said. At one point, the pursuit raced through the pedestrian portion of Santa Monica's Third Street Promenade.


Killinger was driving east on Pico Boulevard, then tried to make a U-turn on 6th Street, according to the videotaped broadcast. He could not complete the U-turn and began rolling backward, toward two LAPD patrol cars that had stopped behind him.


Three officers stood alongside their patrol cars and fired about 11 rounds into the rear window of Killinger's car as it began moving in reverse.

Killinger's car bumped the front of one patrol car and the driver's side door flung open. Bullets could be seen hitting the car near the opening. Killinger fell face down out of the driver's side door.

Lt. Miller said the officers told investigators they were in fear for their lives and they believed the suspect was a danger to the public.

Monday's shooting revisited a long-standing debate on the live broadcast of police pursuits. In April 1998, local TV stations drew criticism for broadcasting a man as he shot himself on a Century Freeway overpass.

KTLA Channel 5 news director Jeff Wald said the station now has a policy of switching to a wide angle shot if the helicopter pilots anticipate a pursuit is about to end. The station broadcast Monday's shooting because "I'm sure they didn't know ? what was going on at the time."

KABC-TV's news helicopter was hovering above the passenger side of the suspect's vehicle and puffs of smoke could be seen as officers fired their weapons. When the suspect was hit, their camera began zooming out.

"The minute the suspect started to put himself in an aggressive position, our chopper pilot told his cameraman to pull out," said KABC news director Cheryl Fair. "We're very conscious of the potential and try as best we can to handle this situation in a sensitive fashion. But it is live television."

KNBC-TV news director Bob Long said his station will not replay the shooting again and will only display a still picture. "There's no reason to show it," Long said.

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To see video with this story go to latimes.com/chase.

[Krille]

anyone supposed to read all that?

[candyflip]

I witnessed something similar a block from my house last year. Local people were in an uproar, but this kid floored his car at the cops. If I had been in their shoes, I'd have done the same thing.

[BVF]

Originally posted by Krille
anyone supposed to read all that?

Yes....Exercise your mind.

[XxXotic]

link to video anyone?

[Fletch XXX]

cops kill people all the time.

america has grown to expect it, and now its entertainment.

he was 23 and was a robber.

[Greg B]

Originally posted by XxXotic
link to video anyone?

To see video with this story go to latimes.com/chase.

[Ironhorse]

They really didn't need to shoot him, he was backing up at about 5 miles an hour with no more than 10 feet distance from the cop car, he was really just trying to maneuver his car back on the road.

You need to subscribe to see the vid, but it's free
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...redirect-chase

[12clicks]

Originally posted by candyflip
I witnessed something similar a block from my house last year. Local people were in an uproar, but this kid floored his car at the cops. If I had been in their shoes, I'd have done the same thing.

too many people look at it thru the eyes of the criminal.
Big problem in our country when we worry about cops shooting a criminal who forces the issue.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by 12clicks


too many people look at it thru the eyes of the criminal.
Big problem in our country when we worry about cops shooting a criminal who forces the issue.

look at this.

12 clicks agreeing and lining himself up with a KNOWN crook talking about how to deal with crooks.

now THAT is some funny shit.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


look at this.

12 clicks agreeing and lining himself up with a KNOWN crook talking about how to deal with crooks.

now THAT is some funny shit.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010

I'll agree with you on the day you say something intelligent too.
I just hope you can afford your connectivity until the stars align

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by 12clicks

I'll agree with you on the day you say something intelligent too.
I just hope you can afford your connectivity until the stars align

i dont need you to agree with me, its clear yuou dont have a clue.

ive been here for years 12clicks, aint going anywhere, funny thing is that you are willing to side with someone who steals over an honest person like me, and thats pathetic.

think about it.

[- AFN -]

damn he got owned.

[IPK]

pwn3e!!!!!!!11111111111

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


ive been here for years 12clicks, aint going anywhere, funny thing is that you are willing to side with someone who steals over an honest person like me, and thats pathetic.

think about it.

#1 I doubt you're honest
#2 quoting someone is not siding with them (look it up in the dictionary son)
#3 being here is no big trick, being successful here is the trick
#4 when you wink off of the net, promise to drop me a goodbye note.

[DBS.US]

I am glad they shot him! He was robbed a store and was diving with his lights off on the wrong side of the road. If they did not shoot he might of drove off and crashed into me.

I say "FUCK HIM"

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by 12clicks

#1 I doubt you're honest

classic 12clicks there.

you can doubt all you want but the fact is....

there are no threads about me stealing templates, stealing bandwidth, stealing someones scripts, as there are threads about all the above regarding Candyflip.

i dont care to argue with you 12clicks, i just wanted to point out candyflip steals.

stealing bw:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220057

stealing & RESELLING my templates:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010

stealing Choker scripts:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...yf lip+script

doubt all you want, my goal here is finished.

[fuelcell]

Originally posted by 12clicks


too many people look at it thru the eyes of the criminal.
Big problem in our country when we worry about cops shooting a criminal who forces the issue.

I worry about cops that just seem to be looking for an excuse to open fire.

That said, it's always a good day when they "take out the garbage". It's kinda funny worrying about the well-being of a violent criminal that didn't worry about driving his car into oncoming traffic.

[HeadPimp]

Originally posted by DBS.US
I am glad they shot him! He was robbed a store and was diving with his lights off on the wrong side of the road. If they did not shoot he might of drove off and crashed into me.

I say "FUCK HIM"

No shit... Personally I think any time a car chase exceeds 30mph they ought to just have a chopper fly by and drop a sniper round into the engine and end it.. Or the driver...

A vehicle is a deadly weapon and every time one of these idiots initiates one, he is putting everyone else on the road at risk of injury or death.

If you are stupid enough to run from the cops, you deserve to get shot for being stupid. Just lay down, and do whatever they say. The rest is for the lawyers to deal with...

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


classic 12clicks there.

you can doubt all you want but the fact is....

there are no threads about me stealing templates, stealing bandwidth, stealing someones scripts, as there are threads about all the above regarding Candyflip.

i dont care to argue with you 12clicks, i just wanted to point out candyflip steals.

stealing bw:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220057

stealing & RESELLING my templates:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010

stealing Choker scripts:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...yf lip+script

doubt all you want, my goal here is finished.

If you don't care to argue with me, then quote candyflip and not me, moron.
If you want to quote me, expect me to explain that a nobody like yourself can have all the posts in the world here and still be a nobody.
Its what I do for fun.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

BRIEF SUMMARY: "Another sucker dead, LA Times front page. Cuz the boys in the hood are always...."

[smack]

that's fucked up. they shot him just to kill him.



there's the LAPD abusing their authority for you.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by smack
that's fucked up. they shot him just to kill him.



there's the LAPD abusing their authority for you.

I'll bet the next time you rob someone you'll pull right over.

[Sly_RJ]

If the guy cared about his life so much he wouldn't have been driving on the wrong side of the road endangering his life and the lives of others.

Why are we expected to respect the life of those who don't respect the lives of others?

[mardigras]

Originally posted by HeadPimp


No shit... Personally I think any time a car chase exceeds 30mph they ought to just have a chopper fly by and drop a sniper round into the engine and end it.. Or the driver...

A vehicle is a deadly weapon and every time one of these idiots initiates one, he is putting everyone else on the road at risk of injury or death.

If you are stupid enough to run from the cops, you deserve to get shot for being stupid. Just lay down, and do whatever they say. The rest is for the lawyers to deal with...

I agree... I see these chases at least once a month on TV and in every case the person ends up blowing red lights, going the wrong way, narrowly missing pedestrians, hitting parked cars...

[Greg B]

Awww shit! Things in LA just went from bad to worse. Few days ago some dude shot a cop to death. They caught him and then last night found the dude hanging in his cell. He ain't dead but people are milling around town talking about the cops hanged him.

This sucks because according to the news the cops were responding to a domestic argument that wouldn't have gotten the guy arrested but dude panicked got into a gunfight killed one wounded another. That's two trained cops brought down by one dude 22 years old. Dude mighta been army trained but it's all ended up tragic.

There were a rash of cop shootings in LA over the past week. Considering there are only a handful of cops in a city this big that's worrisome.

[Martin]

Don't fuck with the LAPD those mofo will kill you dead.