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The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 09:56 AM

just for the record, so everyone (well, me anyway) knows where everyone (you) stands..

WHICH specific parts of the constitution are being ripped up right in front of our faces?

Joesho 02-24-2004 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by LAJ
Ah... this is the perfect opportunity to mention that we're running a political debate at Cybernet Expo on the first day of seminars...

http://www.cybernetexpo.com/seminars.html

THURSDAY, JUNE 10
Political Discussion Group -- 2:45 p.m. - 3:45 p.m.

At present I'm looking to fill one or two spots with a moderate conservative and if one exists in this industry... a hard core conservative to participate in a crossfire discussion. So if you plan on attending the show, or better yet, sponsoring in some way... hit me up at jay at ynotmasters dot com for consideration. That is, if you are willing to be in a physical spotlight and not just a virtual one.

Carry on....


there you go 12 clicks come out and live in the real world once you might learn something other than from the fox news channel.... great idea LAJ

12clicks 02-24-2004 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho



quote:describe the handout you're talking about. speak in specifics.



hmm lets start with corporate welfare how about that one since you guys on the right like to complain that the left (while trying to increase jobs, and build better roads, and schools) continue to be the bad apple of our deficite by handing out all the money to us poor slobs... when of course the facts say otherwise, as record cuts are taking place in all these fields .... one word Halliburton....

I'm going to lunch.
see you in an hour or so.

Joesho 02-24-2004 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
just for the record, so everyone (well, me anyway) knows where everyone (you) stands..

WHICH specific parts of the constitution are being ripped up right in front of our faces?


we can start with the fourth amendment if you would like, or should I start with the first amendmendment to keep it at a slow pace for you, I would not want to jump ahead of the pack and have you resort to calling me a name or something.... and judging by your sig, you only feel the other amendments after the first ten are just liberal hogwash anyways.... man why did they have to give those damn women the right to vote anyway huh, and I bet segregation would help our economy too huh?:1orglaugh

Joesho 02-24-2004 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


I'm going to lunch.
see you in an hour or so.


enjoy your lunch, I will be at the gym (you know I need it) so you will have a little time to regroup I know I shouldn't of shanghied you like this, but unlike some of my democratic bretheren, I feel it is not necassary to know the questions before the debate....


I hope when you come back you bring your friend the truth hurts too, but please will you guys read a chapter on civics first? all the name calling hurts my feelings, I am a sensitive guy, us liberals are made of glass remember!

be sure to come back now though, I would hate to think you just ran away after a little beating I got way more planned for you!

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho

we can start with the fourth amendment if you would like, or should I start with the first amendmendment to keep it at a slow pace for you, I would not want to jump ahead of the pack and have you resort to calling me a name or something.... and judging by your sig, you only feel the other amendments after the first ten are just liberal hogwash anyways.... man why did they have to give those damn women the right to vote anyway huh, and I bet segregation would help our economy too huh?:1orglaugh

dude... what the fuck are you talking about?

mule 02-24-2004 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
dude... what the fuck are you talking about?
LOL, guess the truth hurts so much that you prefer not to see it :)

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by mule

LOL, guess the truth hurts so much that you prefer not to see it :)

pay attention dick, he made a shitload of comments based on my sig, which if I recall correctly has a fucking domains for sale link in it... so where is the fucking connection there?

mule 02-24-2004 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


pay attention dick, he made a shitload of comments based on my sig, which if I recall correctly has a fucking domains for sale link in it... so where is the fucking connection there?

temper, temper :)

Joesho 02-24-2004 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


dude... what the fuck are you talking about?


Ha Ha Ha is lying the only theing you are good at? is that why the truth hurts so much?


I am talking about the sig you had when we started this debate, not the one you changed it too and have now... (it must of been the facts that made you change the sig eh?)


do NOT run down my constitution you terrorist from within, subversity will not work here just ask Bradshaw how far that got him.......

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 10:17 AM

no temper, that's how I actually speak.

the day i lose my temper over some words on a screen posted by a complete stranger, is the day I turn off my computer.

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho



Ha Ha Ha is lying the only theing you are good at? is that why the truth hurts so much?


I am talking about the sig you had when we started this debate, not the one you changed it too and have now... (it must of been the facts that made you change the sig eh?)


do NOT run down my constitution you terrorist from within, subversity will not work here just ask Bradshaw how far that got him.......

Sorry, but my sig hasn't changed in about 3 weeks.

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 10:20 AM

...and before that it said "YOU ARE VIRUS", which comes from the movie "VIRUS", which again has absolutely nothing to do with anything you said in regard to it.

pradaboy 02-24-2004 10:25 AM

ooh the drama, gotta love it :winkwink:

Joesho 02-24-2004 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


Sorry, but my sig hasn't changed in about 3 weeks.



Man you are terrible at lying you need to go get some lessons from serge, or Bradshaw... you suck at it....(everyone saw your sig dude) and apperantly my comments that put your sig in perspective regarding the constitution made you change it, but guess what just like the republicans... lying will not serve your purpose here....


FACTS not fiction is my weapon of choice....

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 10:27 AM

if you're going to waste my time with bullshit, i'm not going to bother with you.

my sig hasn't changed.

sherie 02-24-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


I'm going to lunch.
see you in an hour or so.

Can you get me a cream soda please and ummm a chicken sammich? Thanks xoxox!!

You going to Phoenix?

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho


FACTS not fiction is my weapon of choice....

back up your facts... a screenshot, or some corroboration.

I'd like to see what my supposedly sig said, since i have them disabled.

or, are you playing the moby game?

Joesho 02-24-2004 10:34 AM

whatever dude, I saw your sig that was talking shit about the constitution, so don't play if you want to cheat, 12clicks can handle himself just fine, in fact I am sure he would rather not have you help him, as you just weaken his cause.... haha LOL

Rich 02-24-2004 10:37 AM

You're trying to have a debate with 12clicks? :1orglaugh

I haven't read anything in this thread besides the first post, but let me guess... 12clicks talked about how great he is, how democrats are sheep, called someone a child, called someone else a nobody, but somehow avoided a single fact or argument? Am I right? What a fucking shock.

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho
whatever dude, I saw your sig that was talking shit about the constitution, so don't play if you want to cheat, 12clicks can handle himself just fine, in fact I am sure he would rather not have you help him, as you just weaken his cause.... haha LOL
still waiting for WHAT you think it said.

Then go get a admin to verify my sig has changed.

When you come back with both, I'll convert to being a Democrat.

Joesho 02-24-2004 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Rich
You're trying to have a debate with 12clicks? :1orglaugh

I haven't read anything in this thread besides the first post, but let me guess... 12clicks talked about how great he is, how democrats are sheep, called someone a child, called someone else a nobody, but somehow avoided a single fact or argument? Am I right? What a fucking shock.


you hit the nail on the head man... right square on the head!

Joesho 02-24-2004 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


still waiting for WHAT you think it said.

Then go get a admin to verify my sig has changed.

When you come back with both, I'll convert to being a Democrat.


You know what it said, so why do I need to elaborate, are you just checking to see if I have enough juice to pull off your request?

whatever dude, I will just continue to use the facts you will fuck up again Liars always get caught!!!


I am trying to honor 12 clicks request to leave others out of the debate, when they try to distract from the issues, and facts... so I will have to start ignoring you when he returns unless you stick to the issues, and except the fact that when you loose you loose.. so as not to interupt the factual debate by anyone from his peanut gallery as he likes to call it....

BigFish 02-24-2004 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho



You know what it said, so why do I need to elaborate, are you just checking to see if I have enough juice to pull off your request?

whatever dude, I will just continue to use the facts you will fuck up again Liars always get caught!!!


I am trying to honor 12 clicks request to leave others out of the debate, when they try to distract from the issues, and facts... so I will have to start ignoring you when he returns unless you stick to the issues, and except the fact that when you loose you loose.. so as not to interupt the factual debate by anyone from his peanut gallery as he likes to call it....

You need to learn to differentiate facts from opinions. A "factual debate"? Give me a break. A quote from your original post: "My position is this, Republicans, our fearless puppet leader, and the right wing, have set our country back 50 yrs with the totalitarianism that exsists in our society today.." Go do us a favor and spend an hour or two to research what an "opinion" means.

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho



You know what it said, so why do I need to elaborate, are you just checking to see if I have enough juice to pull off your request?

whatever dude, I will just continue to use the facts you will fuck up again Liars always get caught!!!

again, post what it said.
again, my sig hasn't changed.
again, what facts?

12clicks 02-24-2004 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho



hmm lets start with corporate welfare how about that one since you guys on the right like to complain that the left (while trying to increase jobs, and build better roads, and schools) continue to be the bad apple of our deficite by handing out all the money to us poor slobs... when of course the facts say otherwise, as record cuts are taking place in all these fields .... one word Halliburton....

ok, I'm back.

Joe, corporate welfare (as you call it) has been going on for years. It thrived under clinton and was no different before or after him. so is your argument that you don't like the government?
Because this is not a "right wing" activity but a government one.

12clicks 02-24-2004 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Rich
You're trying to have a debate with 12clicks? :1orglaugh

I haven't read anything in this thread besides the first post, but let me guess... 12clicks talked about how great he is, how democrats are sheep, called someone a child, called someone else a nobody, but somehow avoided a single fact or argument? Am I right? What a fucking shock.

Translation: "look at me, look at me. I'm important too"
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

12clicks 02-24-2004 11:49 AM

I guess joey's waiting for me to leave again so he can come back and post that he's won.:1orglaugh

12clicks 02-24-2004 12:20 PM

i guess next week joey will be explaining how he debated me into a corner here.:winkwink:

Rich 02-24-2004 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

Translation: "look at me, look at me. I'm important too"
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Translation: Rich is right as usual, I'll say something childish and throw in some smiley faces hoping no one realizes I'm a moron.

12clicks 02-24-2004 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rich



Translation: Rich is right as usual, I'll say something childish and throw in some smiley faces hoping no one realizes I'm a moron.

Translation: Please PLEASE look at me!
:1orglaugh

SetTheWorldonFire 02-24-2004 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by TheLegacy
http://pix.segfault.cz/gfy/attention.jpg
He's Toit like Toiger!

tony286 02-24-2004 12:47 PM

A few things, what sites does 12 clicks have? I remember him going back and forth with Farrell Timlake, not knowing who he was, which I found very strange for someone with such a long career in adult. I know what sites Shemp has and he is a big fish. Thats the thing about the net its hard to tell who is real and who isnt.

Second why do you guys go back and forth with him ,he is like My uncle Sal this is how they get their kicks stirring the pot.

Third being from NY, I know not to take people from NJ seriously lol.

Forth Why does anyone who doesnt support W considered the left , I dont like him or his policies but I am far from the left.

Joesho 02-24-2004 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


again, post what it said.
again, my sig hasn't changed.
again, what facts?


OK dude, you know what it said, i know what it said, and anybody that read your post knows what it said...

I will refresh your memory... " respect the constitution , anything after the first ten amendments is just liberal hogwash"

the more you lie the sillier you look...

so I think from now on until you decide tro show your true colors again (even if it hurts) I will only respond to your quotes with one word LIAR!

Joesho 02-24-2004 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I guess joey's waiting for me to leave again so he can come back and post that he's won.:1orglaugh

nope went to the gym to keep my girlish figure.... I am back now do you have your notebook ready...

Joesho 02-24-2004 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


ok, I'm back.

Joe, corporate welfare (as you call it) has been going on for years. It thrived under clinton and was no different before or after him. so is your argument that you don't like the government?
Because this is not a "right wing" activity but a government one.


OK back to the facts...

corporate welfare is only performed by the right... let us analyze the difference...

Democrates= urban development= jobs= tax revenues=more money to spend for a better quality of life= better bottom line for all no socialism involved period!



Republicans = cronieism, big business increases = trickle down economics= less jobs here= third world development=more jobs over seas= better bottom line for the priviledged= more money to for the elitist = bigger war machine= more enimies....


it is not welfare if it is used to better the country as a whole, it is a rssponsible policy..

it is welfare if it is graft money used to influence power, and allow corruption by making the rich get richer while the poor get poorer...

The Truth Hurts 02-24-2004 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Joesho



OK dude, you know what it said, i know what it said, and anybody that read your post knows what it said...

I will refresh your memory... " respect the constitution , anything after the first ten amendments is just liberal hogwash"

you're so full of shit it's pathetic.

Joesho 02-24-2004 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


you're so full of shit it's pathetic.


LIAR

Joesho 02-24-2004 01:57 PM

dig420 must of ran off ole 12 clicks... or was it the fact, that you would have to argue with facts here that got you to run?

Joe Citizen 02-24-2004 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by rooster
Leftists ideal is a fantastic vision where all men live together in peace and harmony. Everyone would be equal. Everyone has the same wealth. Everyone gets the same food and house.the end
Wrong.


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