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davecummings · 02-21-2004, 02:37 PM

This was a copy/paste out of today's Free Speech Coalition newsletter. I hope it'll help the public and prosecuters realize that they can't lump legitimate sites into the "child porn" cover argument that's so often ERRONEOUSLY used by some of them!

Dave
www.davecummings.com

TEEN SITES NOT CHILD PORN SAYS FBI

HOUSTON, TX -- The FBI has completed a review of material on seized
University of Texas-Houston computers based on complaints by university
audit manager Cynthia Davis. Last fall, Davis contacted the FBI and
University President James Willerson, reporting "horrific and egregious
displays and behavior" in 15 audits over five years at UT-Houston, the most
recent involving 10 male employees, including physicians, viewing
pornography, eight of whom visited teen sites.
She also wrote that the problem is much worse than the 10 people
selected as a sample and that she reported the matter to the FBI because she
is "no longer confident" UT-Houston can investigate itself.
However, perhaps Davis did not realize that "teen," does not mean
child in the adult Internet.
"We have reviewed the bulk of the computer hard drive material and found it
didn't meet our child pornography threshold level," said Bob Doguim, an FBI
spokesman in Houston. "We interviewed experts and analyzed the images --
where they came from, when they were taken -- and concluded they didn't
constitute child porn."
Responding to the issue of misuse of university computers, President
Willerson said that he wanted the UT-Houston community to know "that
allegations of personnel viewing pornography on university computers were
promptly and thoroughly reviewed. A decision had been made, he said, "to
counsel those involved and place written reprimands in their files." He also
said that those reprimanded were advised that "further similar incidents
would result in termination."
In the meantime, Davis is no longer employed at the institution. She
has resigned, citing the university's failure to take stronger disciplinary
action against the employees and what she called retaliation against her,
which created a hostile work environment.

From Todd Ackerman, The Houston Chronicle, 2/18/04

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...olitan/2409820

rounders · 02-21-2004, 02:48 PM

raided everyone

tony286 · 02-21-2004, 03:39 PM

Thanks for the info , MR Cummings

Mr.Fiction · 02-21-2004, 05:07 PM

So did some anti-porn idiots waste the FBI's time going after sites with 19 year old girls on them?

Right wingers do hate free speech.

SureFire · 02-21-2004, 05:15 PM

Good read. Thanks.

DBS.US · 02-21-2004, 05:20 PM

bhutocracy · 02-21-2004, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
So did some anti-porn idiots waste the FBI's time going after sites with 19 year old girls on them?

Right wingers do hate free speech.

yep and then she wonders why theres a "hostile work environment" after she's ratted her follows out to the feds for legal shit.. that stupid fucking bitch.

escorpio · 02-21-2004, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

yep and then she wonders why theres a "hostile work environment" after she's ratted her follows out to the feds for legal shit.. that stupid fucking bitch.

Shoehorn! · 02-21-2004, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by davecummings

"We interviewed experts and analyzed the images --
where they came from, when they were taken -- and concluded they didn't
constitute child porn."

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...olitan/2409820

How do they do that? Do they just look real close at the girls pussies and tits and speculate whether or not they are under 18? Seems kind of hard to judge someones age based solely on a picture.

Basic_man · 02-21-2004, 06:31 PM

lol, nice one!

Webmistress Pookie · 02-21-2004, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom

How do they do that? Do they just look real close at the girls pussies and tits and speculate whether or not they are under 18? Seems kind of hard to judge someones age based solely on a picture.

Perhaps the feds got excited at what they saw, got embarrassed and stated that it didnt meet the standards of cp

because they didnt want people to know they liked what they saw

seven · 02-21-2004, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webmistress Pookie
Perhaps the feds got excited at what they saw, got embarrassed and stated that it didnt meet the standards of cp because they didnt want people to know they liked what they saw

Oracle Porn · 02-21-2004, 06:59 PM

conclusion: mind your own fucking biz and you won't lose your $10/hour 9-5 job!

playa · 02-21-2004, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom

How do they do that? Do they just look real close at the girls pussies and tits and speculate whether or not they are under 18? Seems kind of hard to judge someones age based solely on a picture.

they used common sense, typical cp content is girls who haven't hit puberty yet.

off course they won't be able to tell the difference between a 16 or 18 year old but atleast somethings are obvious

jimmyf · 02-21-2004, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom

How do they do that? Do they just look real close at the girls pussies and tits and speculate whether or not they are under 18? Seems kind of hard to judge someones age based solely on a picture.

yep, one thing they look at is the pussy, one expert I saw was a woman, ugly woman at that.

SoundMan · 02-21-2004, 07:54 PM

best not play teenie booper shit!

davecummings · 02-23-2004, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoundMan
best not play teenie booper shit!

Even though the FBI couldn't go forward on this one, it doesn't mean that teen stuff is now protected.

In my box cover warning, I always post (among other 2257 stuff) that the models AND THE CHARACTERS THEY PORTRAYED were at least 18 years of age on the date of filming.....

I'm not even going to take a 30 year old porn girl and have her hair and outfit make her look under 18--it's be asking for scruitiny/trouble????

Dave
www.davecummings.com

Herb Kornfield · 02-23-2004, 11:04 AM

Why she is so uppity at what people at work are doing is insane.

Maybe someone needs to make sure she has so much work to do that she has no other time than to do her thing.

its fucking sickening that people are all about being dime droppers at the job, then getting upset that they suffered repercussions from the people they fucked with.

Lesson here: Mind your own godamm business or get treated like the bitch ass punk motherfucker that you are.

Volantt · 02-23-2004, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by davecummings

Even though the FBI couldn't go forward on this one, it doesn't mean that teen stuff is now protected.

In my box cover warning, I always post (among other 2257 stuff) that the models AND THE CHARACTERS THEY PORTRAYED were at least 18 years of age on the date of filming.....

I'm not even going to take a 30 year old porn girl and have her hair and outfit make her look under 18--it's be asking for scruitiny/trouble????

Dave
www.davecummings.com

No doubt, Dave you are well over the "teen" years IMHO... j/k

V

davecummings · 02-23-2004, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Volantt

No doubt, Dave you are well over the "teen" years IMHO... j/k

V

Yup, for sure!!!! (I'll be 64 in a few weeks).

(it's the age, and "perceived/connoted" age of the girl that I was meaning to comment upon.)

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