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Old 02-21-2004, 04:26 PM   #1
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Old 02-21-2004, 04:27 PM   #2
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Old 02-21-2004, 04:28 PM   #3
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I call BS... hasn't been reported anywhere else yet.
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Hmmmmm....I'll believe that one when I see it happen. Could be he's a black sheep (haha) but the Bin Laden's are Bush family friends.
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Old 02-21-2004, 04:30 PM   #5
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But I get the feeling it isn't.
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Americans wish but not Geroge Bush. Oh and his dog passed away today one down one to go
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Hmmmmm....I'll believe that one when I see it happen. Could be he's a black sheep (haha) but the Bin Laden's are Bush family friends.


also it's not election time yet..wait till nov.

also has it even been proven he;s responbile...i don't recall any evidence
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Anyone dependent on donkeys for transportation will inevitably be captured. Its only a matter of time. The US has the most technologically advanced spy and surveillance resources in the world.

He'll be caught but not delivered to the media until right before the elections.
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http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/1...8,00050002.htm

it will be a look-a-like
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Anyone dependent on donkeys for transportation will inevitably be captured. Its only a matter of time. The US has the most technologically advanced spy and surveillance resources in the world.

, funny you say that becasue from my understanding 'they' had no idea 9/11 was going to happen...maybe it was a 'glitch'
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, funny you say that becasue from my understanding 'they' had no idea 9/11 was going to happen...maybe it was a 'glitch'
Do you think they knew about it and allowed it?
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Do you think they knew about it and allowed it?
HEY..you betta watch your step..thinking like this can get you sent to that camp in cuba
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also it's not election time yet..wait till nov.

also has it even been proven he;s responbile...i don't recall any evidence
Besides having Bin Laden on video/audio all but out right admitting it.

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Besides having Bin Laden on video/audio all but out right admitting it.

oh the one when he had the big ass nose how can i forget
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, funny you say that becasue from my understanding 'they' had no idea 9/11 was going to happen...maybe it was a 'glitch'
You don't understand the volume of intel data the NSA has to analyze now. The quantity is beyond their capacity for interpretation by human eyes. So its not that the intel wasn't there, it just never got analyzed in time.

This is the downside to having immense intel capabilities. Its the same thing with the IRS. They are still having enormous system upgrade problems from their old IBM 1960's mainframes to a modern network. Computer Associates has a multibillion contract and just hasn't been able to make the new system work because the information they have to program and sync is overwhelming.
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You don't understand the volume of intel data the NSA has to analyze now. The quantity is beyond their capacity for interpretation by human eyes. So its not that the intel wasn't there, it just never got analyzed in time.

This is the downside to having immense intel capabilities. Its the same thing with the IRS. They are still having enormous system upgrade problems from their old IBM 1960's mainframes to a modern network. Computer Associates has a multibillion contract and just hasn't been able to make the new system work because the information they have to program and sync is overwhelming.
so in the other words a glitch...o.k. they want me to belive some dude in a fucking cave masterminded with military persicon(sp) the most horrblie crime in recent u.s. history..while 4 plnes were hijacked withing mintues apart and NORAD didn't pursue these planes....but when payne stewart lear jet lost contact with whovever, Jets were in the air ti intercept his jet...i'm sorry i don't see the logic in what they're trying to pull,but to each it's own


edit -he's also an CIA asset since when russia trying to invade afgan,so i'm sure they kept tabs on him,but somehow he had time to plan this..okey dokey
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You don't understand the volume of intel data the NSA has to analyze now. The quantity is beyond their capacity for interpretation by human eyes. So its not that the intel wasn't there, it just never got analyzed in time.

This is the downside to having immense intel capabilities. Its the same thing with the IRS. They are still having enormous system upgrade problems from their old IBM 1960's mainframes to a modern network. Computer Associates has a multibillion contract and just hasn't been able to make the new system work because the information they have to program and sync is overwhelming.
I was watching some History channel program where the NSA has a system that intercepts and records phone conversations. Data can be searched for like a search engine.

They also have the worlds biggest computer. It is used to break codes. They keep it in a air tight dust free enviroment.
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You don't understand the volume of intel data the NSA has to analyze now. The quantity is beyond their capacity for interpretation by human eyes. So its not that the intel wasn't there, it just never got analyzed in time.

This is the downside to having immense intel capabilities. Its the same thing with the IRS. They are still having enormous system upgrade problems from their old IBM 1960's mainframes to a modern network. Computer Associates has a multibillion contract and just hasn't been able to make the new system work because the information they have to program and sync is overwhelming.
I call bullshit. If you want to suggest that the NSA knows everything there is to know about America citizens - I'm in agreement. If you further want to suggest they are overwhelmed, to a certain extent, by the data - I agree. American intelligence outside its own borders is an oxymoron. You don't need to look further than Iraq for proof of that statement.

I'll say again the only thing the NSA or any American intelligence agency is good at is spying on Americans.

Oh, and the IRS is illegally collecting taxes.
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I love seeing this kind of crap. half of you don't even normalize your own dbs, let alone have ANY idea what the NSA does.

KRL is correct however, the sheer volume of data makes things hard to tie together.

Even at that its still a manual process. Someone has to actually LOOK at the data. Hence...analysts...
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I call bullshit. If you want to suggest that the NSA knows everything there is to know about America citizens - I'm in agreement. If you further want to suggest they are overwhelmed, to a certain extent, by the data - I agree. American intelligence outside its own borders is an oxymoron. You don't need to look further than Iraq for proof of that statement.

I'll say again the only thing the NSA or any American intelligence agency is good at is spying on Americans.

Oh, and the IRS is illegally collecting taxes.
The NSA in conjunction with several other large intelligence agencies is intercepting virtually everything and I do mean everything.

The key word being intercepting. That doesn't mean they are seeing it all physically. But everything is going into the Crays now. Well over 3 Billion communication intercepts daily. About 90% of all Internet packets are being "sniffed" also.
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The NSA in conjunction with several other large intelligence agencies is intercepting virtually everything and I do mean everything.

The key word being intercepting. That doesn't mean they are seeing it all physically. But everything is going into the Crays now. Well over 3 Billion communication intercepts daily. About 90% of all Internet packets are being "sniffed" also.
yes, however about 90% of packets being sniffed STILL means someone has to look at it. Outside of some _very_ fancy LISP code, there's not a lot out there for massive correlation of data to the magnitude that is needed.
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yes, however about 90% of packets being sniffed STILL means someone has to look at it. Outside of some _very_ fancy LISP code, there's not a lot out there for massive correlation of data to the magnitude that is needed.
They're using articial intelligence programs.
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They're using articial intelligence programs.
Even with the current state of fuzzy logic algorithms, to the best of my knowledge
the type of correlation engine that would be needed just isn't possible yet. YET.

I do some sideline moonlighting for a defense contractor doing network wargames simulations. I'll talk to the project lead over there and see if he can shed any light on what you say, but, again from my experience, not possible today. At least to the degree that would be needed..
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He'll be caught but not delivered to the media until right before the elections.


what he said...
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I'm probably the least likely to jump aboard these "Weekly World News"-like threads, but I must admit I'm a tad persuaded after reading about it on bloomberg.

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That would be a nice trophy head for the US's wall!

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