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![]() My sister 15 years old had a Biology class with this teacher: Mark Weltermath at her high school. He was found trying to get a 13 year old girl to meet him and then have sex with him by chatting via Yahoo IM. Little did he know it was a cop pretending to be the 13 year old girl.
Thanks to the Arvada and Denver cops in our area they convicted him and now is behind bars. Now my sister's class has a new teacher. Scary this stuff happens anywhere. <font size=1> mwilterm (7:49:18 PM): what up? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:49:41 PM): nothin mwilterm (7:49:55 PM): just chatting? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:50:04 PM): not really mwilterm (7:50:05 PM): what do you like to do? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:50:19 PM): hang out with frends, watch movies, whatever mwilterm (7:50:36 PM): yeah, have a bf? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:50:41 PM): no mwilterm (7:50:52 PM): looking? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:51:04 PM): how old r u? mwilterm (7:51:17 PM): 26 you? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:51:21 PM): im 13 mwilterm (7:51:25 PM): oh .... mwilterm (7:51:28 PM): did not know bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:51:41 PM): am i too young? mwilterm (7:51:56 PM): are you? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:52:10 PM): do u got a pic? mwilterm (7:52:33 PM): what part of co are you from? mwilterm (7:52:36 PM): yes I do do you? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:52:54 PM): im in denver bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:53:03 PM): i have a pic on my profile mwilterm (7:53:06 PM): what school do you go to? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:53:51 PM): hold on, phone mwilterm (7:53:59 PM): ok bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:55:19 PM): k, back mwilterm (7:55:24 PM): what school do you go to? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:55:28 PM): morey bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:55:31 PM): y mwilterm (7:55:38 PM): what part of the city do you live? mwilterm (7:55:44 PM): I am in Southeast bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:55:54 PM): im west side mwilterm (7:56:03 PM): lakewood area? bekaz_purdy_kewl (7:56:08 PM): by regis mwilterm (7:56:13 PM): cool mwilterm (7:56:26 PM): want my pic? you are cute, but young </font> Here is the full conversation
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Thats some crazy shit. But at least that fucker's behind bars now.
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That's fucked up, I'm glad they caught him.
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He's a funny dude
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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the population of pedophiles in this country can literally FILL A STATE. http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal...3.html?sect=19 america is FULL of dads who touch their daughters, and men who fuck little boys, yet you freak when a highschool teachers is trying to attract a young girl? hehehe this country is full of those guys man. also, a PEDOPHILE is someone who fucks someone before pubesence, i forgot the term for someone who fucks girls older than 13+ but there is, according to science, a difference. someone can crave 16 year olds but not crave 4 year olds... ill post more links.
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It's a shame that entrapment has to be used to catch scumbags.
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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wooops, there went our COnstitution. I am GLAD i have the right to fight scum like the cops who entrap people everyday and charge them with bogus crimes and petty charges. FUCK COPS AND PEDOPHILES. but dont ever justify illegal procedures as a means to acquire the subject man, thats not cool at all. entrapment is fought every day in court around this country, and rightfully so. ![]()
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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to christians and neo cons we are all scum.
whatever it takes to put us away. ![]()
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Fletch knows what's up.
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So Fucking Banned
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scary shit indeed
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Although you can just tell by looking at him he's a pedo.
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in general I dont talk to non business related persons over IMs
once some girl added me on icq. First thing i asked her was her age. She replied 13y. as well. Instantly on ignore. |
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gotta watch out for those fucking pedo
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Wonder if they used 'entrapment' as a defense.
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Pffft my grade 7 teacher got charged for touching 11 year olds, that is like 2 years better.
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man i read that whole thing
personaly i think it was realy incriminating but i think the defense of entrapment could be used easily in this case but yeah that dude is a perve but should 13 yr olds be online saying things like that or even being involved in that situation personaly im a big fan of how to stop this by actualy watching what they are doing and supervising their online use but the internet has just become another babysiter like the tv no one cares and shit like this happens when you allow your children to sit online un supervised oh well weird shit good post ![]() |
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It may be entrapment... but what if s/he was actually a 13 year old girl? I think that is the point.
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yeah i dont actualy deny that
but what was said by "her" kinda let him into the hornyness that got him to start being a "ped" in that conversation if not fully it at least had something to do with it i dont deny tha fact that this dude is sick i would kick his ass if i ever met him but im saying that is fucked up how they brought him out lol ![]() |
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Hey man! This shit isn't cool !
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When I was in jr high school, for one of our electives we could choose between home ec or music. Our band teacher, Mr. Jones, was also one of the 3 social studies teachers. Every six weeks, all the ss classes would get together and put on a "fake trial" based on some sort of historic event. Mr. Jones would usually write the whole thing and pick which students he wanted to play the parts.
There were always about 10 girls from his music classes that he picked for every play, and I was one of them. We would do the play in the auditorium and he had a big trailer out back where he had an office and our music classes were taught. Between scenes, he would have us run out back and change costumes in his office. And he always made sure we wore lots of different costumes. So fast forward to my freshman year in college. My mom, who happens to be part of the prosecution team where we live, calls me and says Mr. Jones and his wife are getting a divorce and she's saying he's a pedophile. This all comes across my mom's desk so she gets to see/read it all. Skip to the chase - they go in and take tapes that his wife tells them where to find, and turns out he had a camera in his office and for 4 years he was taping girls changing in his office. And guess who was on them, lol. Naturally, my mom freaked out. And he went to jail. ![]()
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I wonder how long that police officer had to be trained to speak so convincingly like a 13 year old girl
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Did she plan this from the beggining or something, cause she was almost asking for it (sending pictures and wanting to have sex)?
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Using entrapment to catch a person is wong. IT FUCKS WITH FREE WILL. You create a situation for the person to do somthign bad to tempt them. I Don't care if your using it to stop the devil. ITS NOT RIGHT EVEN WHEN ITS USED TO CATCH PEDOS AND DRUG BUYERS!
en·trap ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-trp) tr.v. en·trapped, en·trap·ping, en·traps To lure into danger, difficulty, or a compromising situation. See Synonyms at catch. To lure into performing a previously or otherwise uncontemplated illegal act. entrapment is illegal.
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Yes, girls are maturing (physically, anyway) much earlier these days, and I know that people can get carried away with the cyber stuff, but the fact still remains - he is a teacher, an adult in a position of trust who works daily with children. That makes it a LOT more serious!
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Surely there had been complaints before and that's why the police were investigating, and it doesn't look like they were encouraging him....
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I'm NOT defending pedos but I dislike poeple condoneing entrapment. The ends do not justify the means or we would have the right to kill all the fat/stupid/lazy people to achieve a better society. IT serioulsy pisses me off how people think now adays. This country is fucking doomed.
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though he was WRONG for even chatting, entrapment is wrong as well
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C'mon, that is hardly entrapment. He initiates it himself...
"your not looking for an older guy are you?" Seems pretty obvious to me what he is after. It's pretty creepy really, only two hours after a 26 year old teacher starts the chat he is telling a 13 year old girl that they can safely have sex without a condom. I am not so sure about the vigilante concept of a site like this, but if he's in jail then it was obviously confirmed by law enforcement and he deserves what he gets. |
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Ok, I have a TON of experience on-line with young'ins and it isn't pretty. I had to monitor a chat rooms for a very large server that had teen rooms. I was also a chat admin for the NBCi chat rooms and man it was HELL.
The teens were mouthy over sexed snots who came on to anything that moved no matter what age the guy/gal said they were. Posting personal information such as addresses, phone numbers etc. right in the room. You try to warn them of the dangers and they would lash back with "you are not my ###*#*# mother, go $*#@# yourself you stupid @#$# etc...you end up kicking them out, but they would just be back the next day. Day after day after day they sat there and the second they came into the room it was "anyone wanna cyber". We had older men trolling the place and trying to identy that they were older and get them out wasn't easy. Do young people deserve to be stalked by older folks? Certainly NOT...however, the kids are making it EASY for the pervs to find them. The people I blame is the parents. Parents need to get the computers out of the bedrooms and back rooms of the house and put them in well used rooms where people are around..like kitchens and family rooms. They need to monitor their kids use of the computer and do "spot checks"...invasion of privacy? perhaps...but it is for their protection...they also need to install software to help stop them from going to sites they shouldn't. Just like TV...too many parents are using computers as "babysitters"...as long as the kid is glued to the monitor they are quiet and not causing problems. The only thing is, computers are much more dangerous than a TV ever could be and some parents are just too stupid to figure that out. It is always "My little Linda would NEVER talk about sex to strangers, she is too shy". Bullshit! |
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Theres a difference between defending him and condeming the actions of the people that put him in jail. I agree the fucknut belongs in jail.
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Yeah I understand your point entrapment is wrong. There are other ways to catch these pedo's.
I wonder how you go about getting a job as a chat mod, is it paid well? |
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Man that is crazy, glad they caught the guy.
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