Critique Movie Galleries

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I made a few templates for a client of mine.
Made out a good number of Movie Galleries and submitted them over the course of 5 days.

So far none of them listed. Movie Gallery Post folk always wanting more galleries submitted to em and alas I provide on a excursion to get listed.

http://www.sexedgirls.com/mgps/que1.html

And:

http://www.sexedgirls.com/mgps/xand1.html

These 2 are just templates I have reciped linked the movie gallery posts on specially made pages spanning over 20 different galleries each with different clips.

Is the Movie Gallery Posts out there in a ring or somthing and won't list a new site that is not on the take? tHE CLAIM Back logs of submissions do not seem to make sense since most movie gallery posts have the same movie GALLERIES, and the same sites as they did over 4 months ago.

Whats up?
Are the galleries above any good?

Do I suck?

[rip raster]

go to the places that you are submitting to and see what they are listing, make your galleries along those lines. Oh and you might want to try linking the thumbs to the movies





Rip

[eroswebmaster]

I like them...but they are a bit aggressive.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
I like them...but they are a bit aggressive.

Thats my style.

There is such a diverse requirement for Movie Galleries.
Some want the thumbs linked, some want straight up obvious text to link the movie, some want less than 2 links to the sponsor site. Some want 30 seconds some want over 1 minute...
Some want over 2 megs per clip.

Maybe the net is just not ready, but it seems the TGP's got there shit together really fast in standardizing requirement that allow for easy development of mass galleries.

Just by showing ya guys these pages I am already at loss on strategy as the movie gallery makers will be following my suit.

Problem is they got the "In" by CJ'ing themselves with there own sites.
Thats what I am starting to think.

Maybe I can go 50/50 program but basically thats a no win when ya add up the numbers.

[Juicy D. Links]

Have you done any thumg tgp's? If so you got a protfolio of them?

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by AlienQ


Thats my style.

There is such a diverse requirement for Movie Galleries.
Some want the thumbs linked, some want straight up obvious text to link the movie, some want less than 2 links to the sponsor site. Some want 30 seconds some want over 1 minute...
Some want over 2 megs per clip.

Maybe the net is just not ready, but it seems the TGP's got there shit together really fast in standardizing requirement that allow for easy development of mass galleries.

I know what you're saying...but even then those are still aggressive...those galleries are fucking superb man and no joke...however I think they'd be better suited for paid spots or sponsor hosted galleries.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I can make ya some Juicy like in 1 hour if ya need some for your TGP's or somthing
Just hit me up.

My client is a good guy, he shoots some great stuff and just kinda sucks to see that hardwork just aintenough in this business anymore. You goto pay to play.

[Tylo]

Nice work bro!! Keep up the good work

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Well kids get your note books out...

A great product for a great price, with some original content just does not cut it...

This is merely an example of how bad it has gotten for new business comming in the industry.

Just remember hard work is not good enough anymore ya goto pay to play.

Pay Per Click
Pay 50-60%
Pay on spots

The day of self promotion is well gone and exposure through such only makes you vulnerable to copy cats.

I swear this industry gets more fucked by the second.

[quiet]

actually, self-promotion is bigger than ever. paysites controlling their own traffic is the wave of our current future.

anyway

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Yeah I can see that freom your perspective Quiet

Over 100 domains, locked down in the search engines and generating traffic with your own channels

Excellent resources for sure that gurantee's ya a position.

Now if I can convince my client to buy over 100 domains and have several server locations have each developed or automated I just might get an edge.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Oh k-moan...

Gimme some shit on these galleries, why do they suck?

You can do better than tell me they are good, of course they are good.

Whats the fuck on MGP's?

[dunefield]

I think the galleries look good... But i think maybe if you use and focus the gallery on one girl rather than six...

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally posted by dunefield
I think the galleries look good... But i think maybe if you use and focus the gallery on one girl rather than six...

So variety in a gallery is bad? The attempt to market to those that like variety is a bit of the goal here.

Ya see alot of other movie galleries do the same thing. Especially reality based sites.

[xxxinnovations]

these galleries look more like tours...

there's too much going on, simple is always better when it comes to galleries

I also think it's confusing that you have 4 different links for one movie file

the gallery is just excessive in almost every area, too much clutter

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Problem with this segment of the industry is simple.

There is no standard.

1: I gottin info from a few guys that indicate they submit to over 600 different posts and a mere 25% of there submissions get through.

Thats pretty fucked.

2: MGPS are undecided in Formats, MPEG, WMV, RM etc.

Thats pretty fucked from a production stand point.

3: Limited sizes ranging from 10 seconds to 1 minute clips.

Whats the fuck there? 10 seconds? 30 seconds?

4: Limited number of samples. Thus 3 or 6 so far.

5: They shy away from auto submissions requiring a hand submission. For someone to say they submit 600 by hand each day to the core MGP's is bullshit. (Thats an obvious fuck)

TGP's got there shit together really fast and made it possible for people to make templates and have them accepted reliably with a standard format however in the MGP game it seems to be in very much dis array. Its turning more into a Linux vs Windows vs Mac situation.

In my opinion its way out of control and a pretty weak segment that needs more development and definatly more standards.

Please note that all the rules are completely different regarding hosted galleries every single rule can be bent when that is on the table.

[xxxinnovations]

Originally posted by AlienQ
Problem with this segment of the industry is simple.

There is no standard.

1: I gottin info from a few guys that indicate they submit to over 600 different posts and a mere 25% of there submissions get through.

Thats pretty fucked.

2: MGPS are undecided in Formats, MPEG, WMV, RM etc.

Thats pretty fucked from a production stand point.

3: Limited sizes ranging from 10 seconds to 1 minute clips.

Whats the fuck there? 10 seconds? 30 seconds?

4: Limited number of samples. Thus 3 or 6 so far.

5: They shy away from auto submissions requiring a hand submission. For someone to say they submit 600 by hand each day to the core MGP's is bullshit. (Thats an obvious fuck)

TGP's got there shit together really fast and made it possible for people to make templates and have them accepted reliably with a standard format however in the MGP game it seems to be in very much dis array. Its turning more into a Linux vs Windows vs Mac situation.

In my opinion its way out of control and a pretty weak segment that needs more development and definatly more standards.

Please note that all the rules are completely different regarding hosted galleries every single rule can be bent when that is on the table.

It's true that each TGP has its own rules and own expectations, but that's because it's what works for them.

They don't have to change and follow other big sites for their gallery qualifications because they have people who submit exactly what they're looking for... they're not going to change for the better of the average gallery maker.

They don't decline auto submits for no reason, most of them suck. The majority are shitty and most of them are fucks who redirect to some kind of Ad after getting listed. The gallery makers who both scam and just plain suck ruined that.

To submit to 600 TGPS is a waste of time, the max anyone should submit is 50 by hand as that's where the traffic is. You follow their rules, you don't try to accomodate 600 TGPS since most of them have shit for traffic.

Pick your TGPS and MGPS more wisely, satisfy a few rather than a few hundred, you're wasting your time ane energy otherwise

-Xinnov

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Xinnov - I hear ya on that bud thanks for the time, I understand there is alot of bullshit in submitting, but theoreticaly speaking MGP's need to co operate like the TGP's did.

I do not see the cohesion with the segment and as a guy who has a client with a new product that I think is really good, we are gonna havea hard time breaking in the Movie Gallery submissions and acceptanceoif galleries. Not to mention commerce is at the front of it all and those MGP's are pumpin there own sites up.

Its a tough spot for anything new these days even at the very ground floor of the business trying to break out. Albeit there is really nothing new with this project, well actually there is and its not built to fuck over the surfer.

3-4 mo for results? That kinda sucks. 3-4 months of looking at the vartiety of galleries submitted gives them a competitive edge, basically forcing anything new to be immitated.

The 3-4 months is bullshit, most MGP's have the same galleries that they had 4 months ago. the only reqason for a pause is an attempt to hit me up for buying slots.
I aint opposed to it, infact I am inclined to do just that, but I sure as fuck am not gonna buy a slot without some preliminary testing to see the performance of an MGP.

Before I pass a buck I need to know what I am getting from it.

These galleries were snubbed for the simple reason that they are competitive.

[bluff]

All I know is that CLICK FOR CLICK, MGPs convert better than TGPs.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally posted by bluff
All I know is that CLICK FOR CLICK, MGPs convert better than TGPs.

Of course, why do you think I am trying to figure out who the real players are before dolling out money?

[xxxinnovations]

Honestly, I don't know anything about TGP submitting, only MGP submitting and I'll tell you that it IS bullshit anymore. I stopped about a year ago when I found there was not much more traffic to go around or sales to be made.

The amount of sales that were done 2 years ago compared 1 year ago was probably 5x higher. The likeliness that you're going to blow a site up on your own through free MGP submissions is highly unlikely and your best bet would be to stop wasting time and start buying the higher end gallery positions from cybercat.

I know nothing about the 3-4 month wait with some MGPs or TGPs, those cocky fucks never list you.

I don't think that the galleries were snubbed just because they were competitive, but rather they're too addy. Compared to galleries which are constantly posted, your galleries are excessive.

4 links to 1 video, Text every inch of the page... there's something everywhere just to fill space. If I were an MGP or TGP owner, I'd want to post the gallery without so much clutter. It'd be in my best interest to do so, to retain visitors and bookmarkers. Keeping them clicking is key for these webmasters... not guarding the industry from becoming assloaded with too much free content, they don't care. They're slaves to their visitors, they have to satisfy them in order to maintain strong productivity.

You should cut your galleries down and basically mimic, to some degree, what other gallery makers are doing. There are a few guys who get posted every single day on every single site... you know who they are and I'm sure you get sick of it. You don't believe they're any better than you... but they're getting listed and you're not, so start learning what you're doing wrong.

It's far too late to set a new standard for galleries... go with the flow, make it work for YOU, don't complain about it.

-Xinnov

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I spoke to a number of the MGP owners, each said they would list my galleries...

Infact I showed them to the MGP owners!
THey said submit em! I will list em!

I did...

Now I am getting a different story.

The story is "PAY ME BITCH"

Thats kinda my point here to a degree, I know the site will work, I know ultimatly the galleries are fine.

You wouldnt believe how many folks have killed my ICQ today saying they can do submissions or sell me ad space...

I am not much of a marketing expert cuz I hate Bullshit politics.
I know I goto kiss some serious ass to get listed...