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Old 02-20-2004, 05:54 PM   #1
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Perfection Jeff strikes again - STEALING CONTENT!

The Oracle (19:41) :
I have a question - did you let perfectiongirls.com use your content for zoeymodel?
orange (19:41) :
yes and no
The Oracle (19:41) :
yes and no?
orange (19:41) :
i sent him sets last summer as an upsell, for him to stick in his members area, and send a link to zoey's site
orange (19:42) :
we did it just like we have guest models etc...never thought twice about it
The Oracle (19:42) :
and what did he do?
orange (19:44) :
and then i learned the saga of "the Jeff" and he's marketed her as his, and has zoey as a perfection girl, etc...i talked to him about it, and told him to not to use anything saying he shot her, not to say she gets naked, etc...
The Oracle (19:44) :
why do you even let him use her?
orange (19:44) :
i even talked to my ccbill rep about it, but i apparnetly have to send them a letter(ccbill) to complain
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b/c i didn't know what jeff was
The Oracle (19:45) :
so he is using her now without your permission?
orange (19:46) :
basicly, he had a hosted gallery about her spreading her pussy etc... and i told him not to market her at all as one of his girls, but i didn't care that he used it as an upsell
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http://www.perfectiongirls.com/show_bio.php?id=9
he is still using her as "his" model right here
The Oracle (19:47) :
What did you contact ccbill about if I may ask?
orange (19:48) :
yeh, see, that's what i was mad about, and what i get msgs like this all the time about, she has 2 sets on the site, 0 videos, and doesn't do webcams
The Oracle (19:48) :
So he is using your content without your permission?
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In ways you do not approve?
orange (19:49) :
pretty much that's the gist of it, my ccbill rep contacted me and asked if i was working with him, i said absolutely not
orange (19:49) :
and explained what i just said to you, about last summer, etc...before i knew who jeff was
The Oracle (19:49) :
So you contacted ccbill regarding Jeff using your contact illegaly?
orange (19:50) :
they contacted me, i told him i didn't want them using it, they said i needed to write a letter, make it formal
The Oracle (19:51) :
you dont mind me posting it on gfy do you? (our conversation)
orange (19:51) :
i dont like to make waves, but i've posted about it before, and it doesn't seem to do any good, are you mentioning that it was me?
The Oracle (19:51) :
Jeff was also caught this year shaving
not paying models and employees and all the stuff...did you hear about that?
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oh of course, he still owes me $100 for a cam chat with zoey from last summer
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oh i care, but i'm just not sure what good it does, jeff is jeff, we all know this, i was just someone who knew enough to find the boards, and not enough about the back story of everyone to not be taken in by his lures of traffic and sales etc...isn't it false advertising also? if he says my model has videos in his members area and does cam chats in his members area, and she doesn't?
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isn't it false advertising also? if he says my model has videos in his members area and does cam chats in his members area, and she doesn't?
Yes it would be false advertising.
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Did he ever write the letter? Not sticking up for Jeff but without formally addressing the issue in writing does not necessary mean stealing.

From the log posted it sounds like if you were just being nosey to post some drama about a person who happens not to pay people and bounces checks.

Thanks for your drama post.
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Did he ever write the letter? Not sticking up for Jeff but without formally addressing the issue in writing does not necessary mean stealing.

From the log posted it sounds like if you were just being nosey to post some drama about a person who happens not to pay people and bounces checks.

Thanks for your drama post.
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Remind me not to do biz with your jeff supporting ass.
No loss, but did you read what I said...stealing is a strong accusation. Did the guy write the letter? There are always to sides to a story and usually when some one accuses one of stealing it doesn?t come from a third party sig whore.

BTW, I am sure you would not turn down money from me to your paypal account the next time, you are looking for grunt work. That?s all.
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No loss, but did you read what I said...stealing is a strong accusation. Did the guy write the letter? There are always to sides to a story and usually when some one accuses one of stealing it doesn?t come from a third party sig whore.

BTW, I am sure you would not turn down money from me to your paypal account the next time, you are looking for grunt work. That?s all.
Im not looking for any grunt work... you got me confused with someone else.

Are you sure you are talking about jeff dude? THE PERFECTION CASH JEFF?
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Im not looking for any grunt work... you got me confused with someone else.

Are you sure you are talking about jeff dude? THE PERFECTION CASH JEFF?
Maybe I have you confused with another sig whore and, if that is the case, please accept my apology.

You are accusing a person with a bad rep here for stealing. The person you ICQ didn?t give you permission to post it. And it appears took no actions of the accusations you are stating.

??.The Oracle (19:51) :
you dont mind me posting it on gfy do you? (our conversation)
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i dont like to make waves, but i've posted about it before, and it doesn't seem to do any good, are you mentioning that it was me?
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Jeff was also caught this year shaving
not paying models and employees and all the stuff...did you hear about that?
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oh of course, he still owes me $100 for a cam chat with zoey from last summer?

Jeff?s actions are pretty bad from the posts here but your actions are no better by posting this.

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Maybe I have you confused with another sig whore and, if that is the case, please accept my apology.

You are accusing a person with a bad rep here for stealing. The person you ICQ didn?t give you permission to post it. And it appears took no actions of the accusations you are stating.

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you dont mind me posting it on gfy do you? (our conversation)
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i dont like to make waves, but i've posted about it before, and it doesn't seem to do any good, are you mentioning that it was me?
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Jeff was also caught this year shaving
not paying models and employees and all the stuff...did you hear about that?
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oh of course, he still owes me $100 for a cam chat with zoey from last summer?

Jeff?s actions are pretty bad from the posts here but your actions are no better by posting this.
READ THE THREAD!
Orange is XGIRLS! Scroll up and you will see his posts in this thread.
WAKE UP and stop kissing perfect ass....which is not so perfect anyway....
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This is just crazy for over two years now i've heard about people being scammed, friends infact, now another one..

Orange is a stand up guy, i've known him for ages but yet again Jeff has managed to cause problems..

I'm starting to wonder if it's part of his strategy, ya know cause shit, make hype, get partners..

Makes no sense to me tho, i'm scared to fuck up, and hence work extra hard to make sure I don't.

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Another Drama??
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The funny thing is exactly how he managed to show up at internext and not get fucked up.
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Why dont perfection jeff just reinvent himself yet with a new nick?
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Why dont perfection jeff just reinvent himself yet with a new nick?
Great, now look what you've done.

It's clear that Jeff is absent of original thought, so he has to wait until someone else comes up with an idea and steal it. Now he's going to steal your idea and we're going to have to sniff that asshole out again.... of course, he doesn't seem to wipe so it won't be hard to find him
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This shit is getting reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyy boring ... fuck him and his fucking mama ! We all know jeff is a master scammer and he don't have nothing to proove anymore
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:37 PM   #49
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:38 PM   #50
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