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|  02-20-2004, 01:57 PM | #1 | 
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				The great Florida migration??
			 What's going on? So many people I have heard about are moving to Florida. My friends are going, people from this industry etc. What is so great about florida and where can I find some more info on it? Like the chamber of commerce for FL or something. Thanks! | 
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|  02-20-2004, 01:59 PM | #2 | 
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				 | you don't want to live in Florida. leave it as a vacation spot, trust me. | 
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|  02-20-2004, 02:03 PM | #3 | 
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				 | Not sure.  But I'm getting tired of California.  Maybe only another year or two, we'll see... 
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|  02-20-2004, 02:05 PM | #4 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 02:15 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Main reason for us is the weather, and as you said, so many webmasters are already there that makes for a great party. As soon as our house sales we are on our way.  | 
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|  02-20-2004, 02:18 PM | #6 | 
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				 | I dont know but the fishing and the girls is kick ass in florida! Not to say that california doesn't, justa nice change of pace and scenery! 
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|  02-20-2004, 02:23 PM | #7 | |
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 Reasons? I guess it's old for me. It's a good place to visit and party, but living here is a completely different story. If you're young and single, Lauderdale or South Beach is the place to be. But if you're older and more into business, it gets old, fast. Summers here are brutal. 100+ with high humidity. And then there's Hurricane Season from July to late October...you may never get hit by a strong one, but always having to monitor these things is a big fucking pain in the ass. Drivers can't drive for shit down here. Traffic is pretty high. And some areas you need an interpreter. Cost of living is pretty reasonable though. 
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|  02-20-2004, 02:50 PM | #8 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: S. Florida 
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				 | No state income tax   Only places with better weather year-round are hawaii and california, and california has earthquakes, high state income tax and high cost of living. 
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|  02-20-2004, 02:54 PM | #9 | 
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				 | No state income tax is probably one of the main reasons. Plus if you've lived forever in northern states, having constant weather is pretty nice.   I lived in FL growing up and don't plan on going back - I prefer seasons.  | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:15 PM | #10 | 
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				 | i was born and raised in south florida... its one of them places that you say 'its nice to visit but not to live' like vegas..   btw... i moved to AZ, got the hell out of there...  | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:23 PM | #11 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wandering around FL using random Wireless Connections 
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				 | I've lived in Boca Raton, Miami and Fort Lauderale. I do not recommend Miami unless: - You speak fluent Spanish - You enjoy massive traffic jams I currently live in Parkland (2 minutes from Boca Raton) and it's a beautiful community... the traffic is reasonable, everyone speaks English and there aren't any bad neighborhoods in Parkland. It's also right near the Sawgrass, 95 and the Turnpike so it's easy to get around. 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:27 PM | #12 | 
| I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL 
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				 | Lived in LA for 8 years, Scottdale AZ for 3....have lived in Miami for 3 and I'm staying here.... Housing is very reasonable for what you get (like living on the water  )  (esp compared to LA) No state income taxes Has some international flair, and edgy entrepenural feeling (esp. compared to AZ) Geographically the center of hemisphere (easy flights to Europe, South America, NY, LA, Africa, Middle East) Great weather (as long as you live right on the water...that's key) Nice selection of crazy fun places (the Grove, downtown Miami, south beach, hollywood, fort lauderdale, etc.....)....but also nice quiet neighborhoods to live in. If you like boating....which I love....it's one of the best places in the world. (waterside bars and resturants....Bimini 3 hours away...the Keys....the Bahamas are 6 hours away....warm all year..etc....) Of course there are downsides....EVERY place has them, but I love it and I'm staying.  
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|  02-20-2004, 03:29 PM | #13 | 
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				 | south florida is sorta like southern california,    but the differences are.    no state income tax.     blacks instead of mexicans.         florida has a much better winter than california,  but  californias summer is alot better. 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:31 PM | #14 | 
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				 | Hmmmmmm.... just like every place though "the grass is always greener on the other side" I wonder how much nicer it is than BC | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:31 PM | #15 | |
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 edit: oh, and old people. lots and lots of old people. | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:33 PM | #16 | 
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				 | Couple points: I live in a retirment community area. The average age in Qualicum (5 minutes away) is 65. That is the AVERAGE age. Here I think it's like 50. So I am used to wayyy too many old people. As far as the color of people living there- I am not racist. So I really could care less if red and orange people are living there. | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:33 PM | #17 | 
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				 | also, whatever you do, make sure you live on the east coast. the gulf of mexico is nasty, you don't want to live on that coast (ie: Tampa). | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:33 PM | #18 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:35 PM | #19 | 
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				 | It's the weather down here.  It's why I stayed    
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|  02-20-2004, 03:35 PM | #20 | |
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   Now im freezing my nads off in Europe, god I love florida. | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:36 PM | #21 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:36 PM | #22 | 
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				 | Orlando is Great.   | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:38 PM | #23 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:38 PM | #24 | 
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				 | Love to have a "Cottage" down in the  Hollywood area  
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|  02-20-2004, 03:40 PM | #25 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:42 PM | #26 | 
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				 | I've been all over and lived in many places. Economy, Cost of Living, Weather, Housing, GIRLS are DAMN NICE LOOKING, just a few of the advantages. Florida is the best BY FAR in my opinion.  EDIT: I see the post about "Old People" - Not any more older people here than any other places. Sure you have communities where the older population choose to live...just like other states. 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:42 PM | #27 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:43 PM | #28 | 
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				 | What would you pay for a 3bdrm rancher on standard size property say? I been googling real estate and not finding anything | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:43 PM | #30 | |
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 Hell, that's right! I forgot the most important reason....the girls! (slaps forehead). I used to think that LA had the best women until I came here..    
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|  02-20-2004, 03:44 PM | #31 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:44 PM | #32 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:45 PM | #33 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:45 PM | #34 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:45 PM | #35 | 
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				 | Reasons not to live in (Orlando) Florida... Hot as hell Humid as fuck Rains every damn day Mosquitos the size of bats and mean as killer bees Every other car has an out of state plate, drives for miles with their blinker on, the map unfolded across the steering wheel and always slow down to look at every street sign. I lived on a lake and the airboats sound like people are flying airplanes through your bedroom at night. It's not so bad really, I still have my house there and hope to move back someday. | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:49 PM | #37 | 
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				 | I'd be looking for a place on a lake, or in a quiet little area. I don't like big cities so I'd be shooting for a small community - lots of trees lots of lakes and rivers for boating- and yet still close to the ocean enough to get there if I need to in a couple hours drive. Not saying I am moving there... just always looking for something new.  | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:49 PM | #38 | |
| I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL 
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 Rains MUCH less, Breeze fights the humidity, If it gets too hot, jump on the boat and get out on the water, Mosquitos can't live in salt water, etc.... 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:50 PM | #39 | |
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 Just say a 3-4 bedroom, pool, garage, yard, nice neighborhood... the works. Don't know if you're familiar with real estate in SoCal, but if so, what would a $750k California place cost in Florida. 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:51 PM | #40 | |
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  2-3 bdrm tho. | |
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|  02-20-2004, 03:52 PM | #41 | |
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 Look at the beach areas on the ocean north of fort lauderdale....up closer to boca/palm. Living inland in South Florida is not a great idea. Better yet....spend time down here first and figure out what you like  
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|  02-20-2004, 03:55 PM | #42 | 
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				 | Sly, I think you'll have better luck with century21.com than google, that's what I always use. | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:56 PM | #43 | |
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 For 750k in Fort lauderdale, you could get a GREAT 3/3 bedroom place w/pool, nice neighborhood etc....right on a canal just off the intercoastal with about 60 feet of boat dock. In SoCal....getting a place on the water would be double or more. 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:57 PM | #44 | |
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 and for 900k you can get a stunning place on the intercoastal itself that would go for 2 1/2 million in Socal 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:58 PM | #45 | 
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				 | century21... Finding a LOT of nice stuff... pool the works for like 320k sperbonzo: Chances are I will... pretty soon. Going to take a week or 2 in a few months. Might have to come to FL  | 
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|  02-20-2004, 03:58 PM | #46 | |
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 http://www.buyproperties.com/ http://www.digestofhomes.com/florida.html http://k4.keyes.com/ http://www.cordacohomes.net/ http://www.harmonhomes.com/ have fun  
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|  02-20-2004, 04:00 PM | #47 | 
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				 | I thought you were talking about that Google update in November   
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|  02-20-2004, 04:03 PM | #48 | |
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 Talking to someone over ICQ about it now. It's crazy. Why in the hell did I move to San Diego? Oh yeh, the humidity, lol. 
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|  02-20-2004, 04:03 PM | #49 | |
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|  02-20-2004, 04:03 PM | #50 | |
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