need pricing help for new site (pics) - GoFuckYourself.com

powerbubba · 02-18-2004, 07:14 PM

okay, I've been doing a plain vanilla adult site for a while now, but I have partnered with a photographer to develop and maintain a 100% exclusive gothic niche site with this model, so this is a new area for me and I could use some help.

She already has a following, so to maximize rebills I'd like to launch with $19.99 per month. Would 10 sets of 60 pics each at launch plus weekly updates justify $19.99? One problem is the model doesn't have a PC, but we hope to involve her in the site (answer emails, maybe a blog, maybe a chat every once in a while). How much would you be willing to pay? Any other advice on pricing strategy?

MrMonkeyFingers · 02-18-2004, 07:17 PM

this must be the new niche because playboy just partnered with suicidegirls and is showcasing a different suicide girl each week on their cyber club

dunefield · 02-18-2004, 07:18 PM

nice pics...

xenigo · 02-18-2004, 07:24 PM

Very artistic stuff. I like it. I'd consider the fact that since it's an artistic site rather than a porn site, the pricing could be 19.99 for 10 sets. I mean, for a porn site it would be a little steep but since what you're offering is a little bit more specialized than the average porn site, you might appeal to customers that are willing to spend that amount.

Another thing to consider is the fact that customers don't pay recurring for the current content, they're paying for the updates. So just make sure you update weekly at least.

Vitasoy · 02-18-2004, 07:33 PM

that's kinky

stocktrader23 · 02-18-2004, 07:42 PM

Buy the girl a computer big baller!

powerbubba · 02-18-2004, 07:51 PM

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this must be the new niche because playboy just partnered with suicidegirls and is showcasing a different suicide girl each week on their cyber club

At first I didn't understand this, but now I'm guessing you mean this niche is starting to take off. Couldn't say, just the stars aligned themselves recently for me to land this opportunity. On a personal level, I like this much more than my current plain vanilla site.

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Very artistic stuff. I like it. I'd consider the fact that since it's an artistic site rather than a porn site, the pricing could be 19.99 for 10 sets. I mean, for a porn site it would be a little steep but since what you're offering is a little bit more specialized than the average porn site, you might appeal to customers that are willing to spend that amount.

Yeah, I'm concerned it's a little steep myself since we'll have only 600 or so pics at launch, but hopefully with her involvement people will see the value.

Lykos · 02-18-2004, 07:55 PM

Nice Pics

SoundMan · 02-18-2004, 08:36 PM

some wierd looking bitches!

JD · 02-18-2004, 08:37 PM

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ForrestBlack · 02-18-2004, 09:08 PM

Hmmm... That Crow girl doesn't get particularly naked, so I'm not sure how much you could get away with charging, particularly if she's not terribly involved. I know the folks I guess you would call a following, or her fans or whatever, and they would certainly know if the blogs and stuff were less than real. But, I've always thought she was super pretty and her photographer always seems to get some nice artistic stuff.

Forrest-

powerbubba · 02-18-2004, 09:13 PM

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One thing we're all on the same page on is that this is an artistic erotic site, something like "gothbang" is totally outside the image we want to project

natkejs · 02-18-2004, 09:30 PM

Hmm ... I get what you're trying to do.

The goth niche is sweet, it's something about that style that attracts people. Yet they usually have nothing good to say about it. I should know ;)

I think $19.95 is a little much for 600 pics, but it depends on the quality of the material ... the updates, if the girl in question interacts with the members. Will there be other models avaliable?

If you make sure to keep the site fresh I might work with that price tho. However I don't just mean update with "a new set" every week, ya need to think about what type of sets you do. There is a lot of different "styles" amongs gothic people, try to get it all out there ... I'm sure that babe will know what I mean.

Most gothic sites I've seen so far has been kinda boring, the oldies still has it ... but many of the new ones (as usual with niche sites) doesn't really care about the feeling of the site. They just make it look a bit evil, a bit slutty and figure that'll do it.

Maybe it will maybe it wont, I for one only find that shit attractive when it's well done. Because of all the accessories and all the make-up etc. etc. gothic babes can look REEEEEEEALLY sexy but it's a thin line between what's sexy and what looks STUPID with such extreme styles.

Uhh, having major computer issues so I gotta run, but ehm ... whatever I just wrote I hope it made sence.

Peace!

powerbubba · 02-18-2004, 10:10 PM

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Most gothic sites I've seen so far has been kinda boring, the oldies still has it ... but many of the new ones (as usual with niche sites) doesn't really care about the feeling of the site. They just make it look a bit evil, a bit slutty and figure that'll do it.

Yeah, I've been surfing gothic sites to get a sense of what's out there. I've been amazed at how pathetic many of them are. Gothic isn't just about slapping a ton of make up and dying your hair. Looking forward to seeing how this site sells.

Hmmm....maybe $14.99 then....$16.99.....? sounds cheaper but yet not that much different.....

natkejs · 02-18-2004, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by powerbubba

Yeah, I've been surfing gothic sites to get a sense of what's out there. I've been amazed at how pathetic many of them are. Gothic isn't just about slapping a ton of make up and dying your hair. Looking forward to seeing how this site sells.

Hmmm....maybe $14.99 then....$16.99.....? sounds cheaper but yet not that much different.....

$14.99 could be a good deal ... it LOOKS a lot cheaper, below what most sites charges. Will be great for recurring if you can keep delivering new interesting stuff to the members

latinasojourn · 02-18-2004, 10:41 PM

excellent, unique photography does sell. your leader shot is terrific.

if you only have 600 pics i would suggest making them large and very high quality for the broadband surfer who will be using them to make his own inkjet prints or screensavers.

this will not be a jackoff site, and needs to be marketed differently.

it is an "art" site, and if you have access to original raw camera files create a boutique gallery where you sell limited edition prints signed by the girl for about $49-79. give the model a share in these proceeds to encourage her to keep working.

IMO you will do approx the same number of sales whether the price is 12.95 or 19.95, do not go above 19.95.

as someone here said the key is in regular updating.

psyko514 · 02-18-2004, 10:45 PM

i'd say start it off at $14.95 for the first 2-3 months, build up a member base with more updates, and then raise the price to $19.95.

i'd also suggest buying the model a computer and keeping her involved in the site. she could do interactive chats, webcam shows, etc and that will retain members.

KeWLKaT · 02-18-2004, 10:47 PM

well, ur site looks like a really good potential one. of course u can keep it to that prcie, i know i would pay that much

powerbubba · 02-18-2004, 11:01 PM

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it is an "art" site, and if you have access to original raw camera files create a boutique gallery where you sell limited edition prints signed by the girl for about $49-79. give the model a share in these proceeds to encourage her to keep working.

hmm, now there's an idea....

hyper · 02-18-2004, 11:07 PM

you know good quality unique content in a niche doesnt have to sell for less than $19.95 a month

Winterverse · 02-19-2004, 12:10 AM

I say start and keep it at $19, too cheap and people may think there is a problem (like buying a 7 dollar red lobster dinner..you know that shit has hit the floor not once, but twice)

Good luck, get that affiliate program ready dammit

Toni · 02-19-2004, 01:49 AM

$19.99 sounds good, what you can offer are discounts for members that stay 2,3,4... months

JulianSosa · 02-19-2004, 01:52 AM

$99.95 and hope they forget they joined

02-19-2004, 04:28 AM

19.95$ per month
and 14.95$ - 3 days trial

Trax · 02-19-2004, 04:34 AM

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Originally posted by hyper
you know good quality unique content in a niche doesnt have to sell for less than $19.95 a month

ForrestBlack · 02-19-2004, 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by natkejs
Most gothic sites I've seen so far has been kinda boring, the oldies still has it ... but many of the new ones (as usual with niche sites) doesn't really care about the feeling of the site. They just make it look a bit evil, a bit slutty and figure that'll do it.

I sooo agree with you there.

Most of them just look like they are trying to do the same thing that they saw someone else doing already, with no regard to the fanbase, culture, etc. But, Doomsday shoots nice stuff with Crow.

Forrest-

Shoehorn! · 02-19-2004, 06:11 AM

WOW, for some odd reason I really want to fuck either that girl or one just like her. No idea why I find those kinds of girls attractive all of the sudden. Maybe it's something in the water.

KraZ · 02-19-2004, 06:54 AM

Why don't you go out and purchase some gothic sets (non-exclusive) and add them to the site. Just so you can claim over 1995 photos, just a cent a photo

02-18-2004, 07:14 PM	#1
powerbubba Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 358	need pricing help for new site (pics) okay, I've been doing a plain vanilla adult site for a while now, but I have partnered with a photographer to develop and maintain a 100% exclusive gothic niche site with this model, so this is a new area for me and I could use some help. She already has a following, so to maximize rebills I'd like to launch with $19.99 per month. Would 10 sets of 60 pics each at launch plus weekly updates justify $19.99? One problem is the model doesn't have a PC, but we hope to involve her in the site (answer emails, maybe a blog, maybe a chat every once in a while). How much would you be willing to pay? Any other advice on pricing strategy? __________________ GreatGirls.com [email protected] CrowsCrypt.com - Exclusive High Quality Goth www.crowscrypt.com

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02-18-2004, 07:24 PM	#4
xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	Very artistic stuff. I like it. I'd consider the fact that since it's an artistic site rather than a porn site, the pricing could be 19.99 for 10 sets. I mean, for a porn site it would be a little steep but since what you're offering is a little bit more specialized than the average porn site, you might appeal to customers that are willing to spend that amount. Another thing to consider is the fact that customers don't pay recurring for the current content, they're paying for the updates. So just make sure you update weekly at least.

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Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,030	Nice Pics __________________

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SoundMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MidWest Posts: 3,471	some wierd looking bitches!

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JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	gothbang.com (with .net .org) for sale. ICQ me with offer

02-18-2004, 09:08 PM	#11
ForrestBlack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Hollywood Posts: 227	Hmmm... That Crow girl doesn't get particularly naked, so I'm not sure how much you could get away with charging, particularly if she's not terribly involved. I know the folks I guess you would call a following, or her fans or whatever, and they would certainly know if the blogs and stuff were less than real. But, I've always thought she was super pretty and her photographer always seems to get some nice artistic stuff. Forrest- __________________ SpookyCash: Original Alt/Gothic/Punk Niche Leaders

02-18-2004, 09:30 PM	#13
natkejs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nomad Land Posts: 1,638	Hmm ... I get what you're trying to do. The goth niche is sweet, it's something about that style that attracts people. Yet they usually have nothing good to say about it. I should know ;) I think $19.95 is a little much for 600 pics, but it depends on the quality of the material ... the updates, if the girl in question interacts with the members. Will there be other models avaliable? If you make sure to keep the site fresh I might work with that price tho. However I don't just mean update with "a new set" every week, ya need to think about what type of sets you do. There is a lot of different "styles" amongs gothic people, try to get it all out there ... I'm sure that babe will know what I mean. Most gothic sites I've seen so far has been kinda boring, the oldies still has it ... but many of the new ones (as usual with niche sites) doesn't really care about the feeling of the site. They just make it look a bit evil, a bit slutty and figure that'll do it. Maybe it will maybe it wont, I for one only find that shit attractive when it's well done. Because of all the accessories and all the make-up etc. etc. gothic babes can look REEEEEEEALLY sexy but it's a thin line between what's sexy and what looks STUPID with such extreme styles. Uhh, having major computer issues so I gotta run, but ehm ... whatever I just wrote I hope it made sence. Peace! __________________

02-18-2004, 10:41 PM	#16
latinasojourn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,191	excellent, unique photography does sell. your leader shot is terrific. if you only have 600 pics i would suggest making them large and very high quality for the broadband surfer who will be using them to make his own inkjet prints or screensavers. this will not be a jackoff site, and needs to be marketed differently. it is an "art" site, and if you have access to original raw camera files create a boutique gallery where you sell limited edition prints signed by the girl for about $49-79. give the model a share in these proceeds to encourage her to keep working. IMO you will do approx the same number of sales whether the price is 12.95 or 19.95, do not go above 19.95. as someone here said the key is in regular updating.

02-18-2004, 10:45 PM	#17
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	i'd say start it off at $14.95 for the first 2-3 months, build up a member base with more updates, and then raise the price to $19.95. i'd also suggest buying the model a computer and keeping her involved in the site. she could do interactive chats, webcam shows, etc and that will retain members. __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

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KeWLKaT Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: F-Town Posts: 130	well, ur site looks like a really good potential one. of course u can keep it to that prcie, i know i would pay that much __________________

02-18-2004, 11:07 PM	#20
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	you know good quality unique content in a niche doesnt have to sell for less than $19.95 a month __________________

02-19-2004, 12:10 AM	#21
Winterverse Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 278	I say start and keep it at $19, too cheap and people may think there is a problem (like buying a 7 dollar red lobster dinner..you know that shit has hit the floor not once, but twice) Good luck, get that affiliate program ready dammit

02-19-2004, 01:49 AM	#22
Toni Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,697	$19.99 sounds good, what you can offer are discounts for members that stay 2,3,4... months __________________ $25-$50 Per Signup, 60%-70% Rev Share, 125+ Sites, Exclusive Sites, tons of free content 70,000+ FHG's, Free Domain Hosting, 10,000+ Hosted FLV's - Need Live Cams? Check out ItsLive.com Fetish Hits paying affiliates since 2001 - Every time on time!

02-19-2004, 01:52 AM	#23
JulianSosa Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,042	$99.95 and hope they forget they joined

02-19-2004, 04:28 AM	#24
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	19.95$ per month and 14.95$ - 3 days trial

02-19-2004, 06:11 AM	#27
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02-19-2004, 06:54 AM	#28
KraZ Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ICQ:: 18822023 Posts: 2,636	Why don't you go out and purchase some gothic sets (non-exclusive) and add them to the site. Just so you can claim over 1995 photos, just a cent a photo __________________ Selling MedicalPorn,com and a dozen other gyno & doctor domains here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=871984