How do I hide my source code from copy pasters? - GoFuckYourself.com

AmeliaG · 02-18-2004, 06:00 PM

Hey, I'm pretty sure there is a little snippet of code which makes it harder for inexperienced webmasters to snarf html like say metatags or whole freaking pages. Anybody know offhand what that code snippet is? Thanks for any help y'all may be able to give me.

02-18-2004, 06:02 PM

check out PK's source. very effective.

02-18-2004, 06:03 PM

other than that, there is no way to hide shit.

AmeliaG · 02-18-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Equinox
check out PK's source. very effective.

The irony factor of looking at someone's source code in order to figure out how to protect your own is not lost on me. So how do I do that and does that hide anything from search engines, or only from nosy copycats?

ztik · 02-18-2004, 06:12 PM

this what your looking for?

http://www.evrsoft.com/developers/encrypter.shtml

Will

02-18-2004, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG

The irony factor of looking at someone's source code in order to figure out how to protect your own is not lost on me. So how do I do that and does that hide anything from search engines, or only from nosy copycats?

cough, scroll down on that page. I see it even fooled you.

AmeliaG · 02-18-2004, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ztik
this what your looking for?

http://www.evrsoft.com/developers/encrypter.shtml

Will

The thing at the top of that page which says:

[an error occurred while processing this directive]

concerns me. I don't want my code scrambled, just harder to steal.

AmeliaG · 02-18-2004, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox

cough, scroll down on that page. I see it even fooled you.

Wow. That is fucking inspired. Thank you.

02-18-2004, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG

Wow. That is fucking inspired. Thank you.

Thank the pussy.

Adult Site Traffic · 02-18-2004, 07:07 PM

http://adult-site-traffic.com/webmasters

12clicks · 02-18-2004, 07:11 PM

Amelia, you should ask Moof

Chaldoray · 02-18-2004, 07:12 PM

encrypt your html code

B_Maverick · 02-18-2004, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
check out PK's source. very effective.

omg...that's too good. I've checked out her source in the past (trying to find out some of her secrets, obviously)...and was immediately "shut down" by the phony error. Kudo's to Kitty.

Stewie · 02-18-2004, 07:36 PM

That is fucking clever on PK

~Ray · 02-18-2004, 08:00 PM

this is what you are looking for... it works very good...

http://www.fantomaster.com/faarticles/cloakmetatags.txt

JensMoviePost · 02-18-2004, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by overlord
That is fucking clever on PK

PK???
u mean do this:
'SSI DHTML ERROR 402 - FILE NOT FOUND'

then put your html below

modifried · 02-18-2004, 08:16 PM

In order for the browser to be able to parse the HTML code to begin with, it has to be send readable code. There is no possibly way to properly "hide" HTML source. If it was hidden then the browser wouldn't be able to read it, either.

There's never anything worth "hiding" anyhow.

JackRoyal · 02-18-2004, 09:14 PM

Number One Rule of Computer Science (or at least trying to make money with software): Perfect copy protection is IMPOSSIBLE. As in perpetual motion machines in Physics.

cluck · 02-18-2004, 09:17 PM

dokumenthahahahahahaha(unescape(hex code));

~Ray · 02-18-2004, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdvertisingSex

http://www.fantomaster.com/faarticles/cloakmetatags.txt

search engines will see the Meta Tags... but, surfers will not.

02-19-2004, 12:41 AM

Interesting thread and links. I've often wondered this as well.

Babagirls · 02-19-2004, 12:53 AM

i use a source block on some sites......i would give it to ya, but i'll let ya find ya it like i did

mardigras · 02-19-2004, 12:53 AM

PK needs to set that for a bit more than a scroll and a half of the mouse wheel

Socks · 02-19-2004, 12:55 AM

I would use a small couch, or a sectional.

Veterans Day · 02-19-2004, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Socks
I would use a small couch, or a sectional.

AmeliaG · 02-19-2004, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
Amelia, you should ask Moof

Thanks! Will do.

PS You have to change your sig because it makes me have inappropriate thoughts whenever I see it

KraZ · 02-19-2004, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ztik
this what your looking for?

http://www.evrsoft.com/developers/encrypter.shtml
Will

Script by : Svetlin Staev

I think I know this guy (that developed the script)...

KraZ · 02-19-2004, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG
Hey, I'm pretty sure there is a little snippet of code which makes it harder for inexperienced webmasters to snarf html like say metatags or whole freaking pages. Anybody know offhand what that code snippet is? Thanks for any help y'all may be able to give me.

Also, I'm not sure if it's of any help but studio.adobe.com uses some kind of gimmick that actually prevented me from saving it to my hard drive. I can view the source all right but I couldn't save it... [still not sure why]

Generally, unless you get dynamic content from a DB, it's impossible to hide code. I mean, you can't steal server-side code, only client-side code.

However, you can do some tricks to protect your client side code. You can use includes for the CSS and JS, use several files, includes within includes but this will probably just complicate things and will only help you against newbies.

AmeliaG · 02-19-2004, 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by KraZ

Also, I'm not sure if it's of any help but studio.adobe.com uses some kind of gimmick that actually prevented me from saving it to my hard drive. I can view the source all right but I couldn't save it... [still not sure why]

Generally, unless you get dynamic content from a DB, it's impossible to hide code. I mean, you can't steal server-side code, only client-side code.

However, you can do some tricks to protect your client side code. You can use includes for the CSS and JS, use several files, includes within includes but this will probably just complicate things and will only help you against newbies.

Thanks, I'll have to take a look at that.

I'm really only looking for code snippets which will make it more difficult for inexperienced webmasters to view source.

Experienced webmasters will always be able to figure out a way to get around such obstacles, but I doubt I have any code which would be news to anyone who really knows what they are doing.

I'm just sick of seeing html, php, and tags etc. obviously copy-pasted from my pages on sites belonging to people too lazy to even come ask a how-to question on gfy.

notjoe · 02-19-2004, 05:53 AM

http://www.hostedcontent.com/encrypt.phtml

Simply enter the part of the HTML code you dont want people to figure out, paste it into the form then paste the JS it creates into your html code where the content you encrypted should go

shimmy · 02-19-2004, 07:18 AM

data-encryption.net works well

gleb · 02-19-2004, 08:36 AM

i cant believe that somebody actually fell for that PK trick

here's what i use..

with perl, wrap your entire code into a variable and run it through

sub clean_page($)
{
my $pp = shift;
$pp =~ s/<!-.*?->//igs;
$pp =~ s/\t+/ /igs;
$pp =~ s/ / /igs;
$pp =~ s/ >/>/igs;
$pp =~ s/\n//igs;
$pp =~ s#\/\*.*?\*\/##igs;
$pp =~ s/ "/"/igs;
$pp =~ s/ / /igs;
return $pp;
}

it will remove any comments, new lines, tabs etc .. your entire code will be shown in a single line

optionally use some JS encryption method for vital parts (as shown in posts above) , and that should do the trick

of course its not full proof...

{fusion} · 02-19-2004, 08:40 AM

you could use a form of cloaking, where you give the spiders a copy of one site, but give the public a replica without optimization. some SEO's use these techniques when dealing with sites with frames ect.

just a thought.

Loki · 02-19-2004, 11:08 AM

I do not know if this is 100% relivant or not, but i have found no matter what is used to hide source codes or protect images from being snaged (Disable right click, cloaking, etc) there is still one way that has and always?? will work.

File/Save As.....

This saves the whole page then all one has to do is open it with html or text editor to see the source code.

Now ok so lets remove the file bar from the page.

Now all the surfer has to do is go back a page and then open your page in a new browser window thus giving them back their file bar.

So really i think if someone wants your code their gonna get it. right?

I find it best to put all my secret stuff in a swf file but now theres a decompiler so even that way is phucked lol

-Loki-

AmeliaG · 02-19-2004, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vdc-Loki
I do not know if this is 100% relivant or not, but i have found no matter what is used to hide source codes or protect images from being snaged (Disable right click, cloaking, etc) there is still one way that has and always?? will work.

File/Save As.....

This saves the whole page then all one has to do is open it with html or text editor to see the source code.

Now ok so lets remove the file bar from the page.

Now all the surfer has to do is go back a page and then open your page in a new browser window thus giving them back their file bar.

So really i think if someone wants your code their gonna get it. right?

I find it best to put all my secret stuff in a swf file but now theres a decompiler so even that way is phucked lol

-Loki-

Someone who can decompile a swf file is probably not going to be trying to grab my code because there won't be much of interest for someone that sophisticated there I don't think. Oddly, we used to use the disable right click on a lot of our sites. We've removed it every place it was in an include, but there are still a few old galleries we haven't changed yet and there actually are a lot of people who can't figure out how to get around it, even now.

Dirty F · 02-19-2004, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox

cough, scroll down on that page. I see it even fooled you.

Yup, its good, i used to do that like years ago already.

In her case tho, it does show the code on 1600x1200.
She needs to add some more space.

Rictor · 02-19-2004, 11:19 AM

Do engines even use meta tags anymore? Google seems to go buy title and page text.

Loki · 02-19-2004, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AmeliaG

Someone who can decompile a swf file is probably not going to be trying to grab my code because there won't be much of interest for someone that sophisticated there I don't think. Oddly, we used to use the disable right click on a lot of our sites. We've removed it every place it was in an include, but there are still a few old galleries we haven't changed yet and there actually are a lot of people who can't figure out how to get around it, even now.

Wen i spoke of flash decompilers i was refering to the spam i get about "Decode Any Flash File" and 2 of my lower end flash makers that come with decompilers and detailed info on what to do with them.

Wow man i think the file/save as was one of the first things i learned lol, back when i first started doing design work lol, i find it odd that more ppl don't know about it.

-Loki-

PersianKitty · 02-22-2004, 04:47 AM

You'd be amazed at the number of emails I've gotten over the years asking ..

"How do you do that?"

AdultNex · 02-22-2004, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty
You'd be amazed at the number of emails I've gotten over the years asking ..

"How do you do that?"

Intelligence of people amazes me.

If you want an actual HTML encryption program that will be sure to knock any webmaster off their feet, check this out:

http://www.mtopsoft.com

AdultNex · 02-22-2004, 05:01 AM

If you think that PK thing is amazing, how many webmasters do you think will be able to crack the HTML to this page:

http://www.mtopsoft.com/encryptpro/example.htm

PersianKitty · 02-22-2004, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
If you think that PK thing is amazing, how many webmasters do you think will be able to crack the HTML to this page:

http://www.mtopsoft.com/encryptpro/example.htm

Er um.. I hit the save page as option in netscape..saved the page.. opened it in my editor and saw it all.

PersianKitty · 02-22-2004, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex

Intelligence of people amazes me.

If you want an actual HTML encryption program that will be sure to knock any webmaster off their feet, check this out:

http://www.mtopsoft.com

"Will Encrypt HTML Pro affects my search engine ranking?

If you want your search engine ranking unaffected, please select "Only encrypt partial section" or "Do not encrypt html source code" in Step 2. Otherwise, the search engine can't cache your page correctly. The "Encrypt all links" will also affect the search engine: Search engine spiders can't index other web pages linked by this page."

AdultNex · 02-22-2004, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty

"Will Encrypt HTML Pro affects my search engine ranking?

If you want your search engine ranking unaffected, please select "Only encrypt partial section" or "Do not encrypt html source code" in Step 2. Otherwise, the search engine can't cache your page correctly. The "Encrypt all links" will also affect the search engine: Search engine spiders can't index other web pages linked by this page."

Yeah, that's the only descrepancy, but if you want something that will most likely defer away most webmasters, then go with EncryptHTML.

Quote:

Er um.. I hit the save page as option in netscape..saved the page.. opened it in my editor and saw it all.

This doesn't work with Firebird or IE. Who uses Netscape anyways?

PersianKitty · 02-22-2004, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex

This doesn't work with Firebird or IE. Who uses Netscape anyways?

I always review in Netscape. It's not as forgiving as IE. I can catch alot of mistakes that cause page load problems for some browsers, but not necessarily IE. Never give em a break ;)

And actually. I saved the page in IE and opened just the html in my browser and got the same thing. No encryption.

Mr.Fiction · 02-22-2004, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
If you think that PK thing is amazing, how many webmasters do you think will be able to crack the HTML to this page:

http://www.mtopsoft.com/encryptpro/example.htm

Why does that page try to paste from your clipboard?

AdultNex · 02-22-2004, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty

I always review in Netscape. It's not as forgiving as IE. I can catch alot of mistakes that cause page load problems for some browsers, but not necessarily IE. Never give em a break ;)

And actually. I saved the page in IE and opened just the html in my browser and got the same thing. No encryption.

Hm, what version of IE are you using?

PersianKitty · 02-23-2004, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex

Hm, what version of IE are you using?

6.0.28yadahyadah

02-18-2004, 06:00 PM	#1
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X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	check out PK's source. very effective.

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X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	other than that, there is no way to hide shit.

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modifried Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 38	In order for the browser to be able to parse the HTML code to begin with, it has to be send readable code. There is no possibly way to properly "hide" HTML source. If it was hidden then the browser wouldn't be able to read it, either. There's never anything worth "hiding" anyhow.

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notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	http://www.hostedcontent.com/encrypt.phtml Simply enter the part of the HTML code you dont want people to figure out, paste it into the form then paste the JS it creates into your html code where the content you encrypted should go

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gleb Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NY Posts: 311	i cant believe that somebody actually fell for that PK trick here's what i use.. with perl, wrap your entire code into a variable and run it through sub clean_page($) { my $pp = shift; $pp =~ s/<!-.?->//igs; $pp =~ s/\t+/ /igs; $pp =~ s/ / /igs; $pp =~ s/ >/>/igs; $pp =~ s/\n//igs; $pp =~ s#\/\.?\\/##igs; $pp =~ s/ "/"/igs; $pp =~ s/ / /igs; return $pp; } it will remove any comments, new lines, tabs etc .. your entire code will be shown in a single line optionally use some JS encryption method for vital parts (as shown in posts above) , and that should do the trick of course its not full proof...

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{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	you could use a form of cloaking, where you give the spiders a copy of one site, but give the public a replica without optimization. some SEO's use these techniques when dealing with sites with frames ect. just a thought.

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Loki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,420	I do not know if this is 100% relivant or not, but i have found no matter what is used to hide source codes or protect images from being snaged (Disable right click, cloaking, etc) there is still one way that has and always?? will work. File/Save As..... This saves the whole page then all one has to do is open it with html or text editor to see the source code. Now ok so lets remove the file bar from the page. Now all the surfer has to do is go back a page and then open your page in a new browser window thus giving them back their file bar. So really i think if someone wants your code their gonna get it. right? I find it best to put all my secret stuff in a swf file but now theres a decompiler so even that way is phucked lol -Loki- __________________ MAKE MONEY WITH 3D TOONS! Need hosting? LokiCa$h Uses Amerinoc and love them! Skype: LokiPorn Or Email 3dloki\|at\|gmail.com

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