The list of reasons to not do biz with Heather just keeps growing... and growing....

uhhhm yeah, I did . . . . no worries

he attended the baddog school of broadcasting, that is probably why

just because she is a designer does not mean she knows shit about marketing, and if what you relayed to me this morning is true, then she has proven to me, and dozens of others that she does not know shit about marketing.

She is starting off with community college, she doesn't even have a Bachelors yet, so it will probably be around 10 years before you know if you won the bet or not.

How can you go to law school when you have the grammar of an 8th grader??? You don't know the difference between "to" and "too" and how to use apostraphes. It doesn't matter that this is just a forum, you should still know how to spell basic words. You won't be even getting into English 100 at community college with grammar like that.

That is not what she said you said. She said that you said it was "pointless for a single girl site like mine."

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...agen umber=14

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you are a liar. that is not even close to what you said.

You said that she said it was "pointless for a single girl site like mine."

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showt...0&pagenumber=14

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Ivy,
Heather was the one who made the comment about you not thinking AVS was a good traffic source for single girl sites. I used to do AVS and I know for a fact ProAdult is crawling with single girl sites. Lots of sg sites don't even have their own billing- they use PA exclusively.

Maybe I misunderstood, but based on what Heather said, it sounded like she needs your approval because of the contract you two have. So, just to be clear - you wouldn't have a problem if Heather made AVS sites or tgp galleries on her own, to promote her site? I think baddog made her a good offer with the bump up in payouts and sounded like he was even willing to walk her through the whole deal. The hardest part about doing AVS is getting good content and she's got her own never ending supply of good, exclusive stuff, so she should be set. In the amount of time she's spent replying on this board in the last 2 or 3 days, she could have banged out tons of AVS sites and galleries, easy.

I spent 45 minutes with her yesterday, and I have not pulled the offer from the table, but I have been told by others (as soon as I made the offer) that she would never take me up on it.

It all comes down to the fact that the lazy slut does not want to work for anything. She prefers to beg for hand outs!

Just picture her on hands and knees like the dog that she is begging for a bone.:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I checked those and replied....though this is all a waste of my time.

I design, host and promote Official single model sites. I am not interested or experienced in doing anything other than that at this point in time. My current clients on top of my own sites have my schedule full and my expertise is in marketing official model sites.

That's the last time I am going to clarify this point.

Heather is free to do whatever else she likes on the side. In my eyes, and I did not tell Heather this, I myself would not put up and AVS site for myself...I like having only 1 site that has my Exclusive content and that pays off for me and all my partners.

But she can do what she likes.....

And why my business relationships or critiqueing of my skill has come into this thread is beyond me and uncalled for. You are all intelligent webmasters and should know better than to judge another webmaster based on something a client says.

Ivy

Good idea.

I'm sorry that you got dragged into this as you didn't deserve it. Thank you for making clear to us what your role is and your stance on this whole situation. But please understand as well that what she said was not what you said at all. I personally find your stance on this to be quite reasonable. I just wish heather had made it clear from the begining of what was going on rather than the muddy mess that it was presented as.

What a scam.. women have it soo easy.. No women would donate money for a guy to get a penile implant..

Couldn't agree more..

Thank you Danny.....I prefer not to be involved in personal issues with clients. I just do what I'm hired to do and leave the drama for others. Being dragged into this and having my name attached to any negativity was very unfair. I met Heather a couple monthes back, offered her what I offer to other models , been redesigning her site, promoting her and doing her weekly updates. End of story......

Ivy

Considering today's environment and potential for future trouble for adult matters, perhaps donating to Free Speech Coalition or something like that might be appropriate????

Dave
www.davecummings.com

Ivy,

The suggestion that has been made to Heather is that she does AVS sites, free sites and galleries that all point to her paysite.

I run my own single girl site and that is how I get 90% of my sign-ups.

They don't have to be anything fancy, they just have to attract the surfer in the first place and then encourage him to go over to the paysite to see more.

The suggestion of building avs sites, is a wonderful suggestion and with baddog offering to help her, it would have increased her sales to her paysite but she is too lazy to take up that offer... perhaps if she started helping herself, her situation might be a little better.

I agree about driving traffic to paysites via free sites.

baddog should contact me ivy at privateivy dot com I'm not interested or experienced in building free sites, but I'd be interested to talk to him .

Anything I ever want to do for any of my sites and don't know how or can't or don't have time to...I always hire the best to do it....which is why all these others around here shouldn't be so quick to be an ass to another webmaster based on something as silly as these posts.

Ivy

:1orglaugh Asking for donations to get a boob-job... :1orglaugh

First not taken any sides here, but what gives you the right to post personal info like this? Who the fuck cares if she is an escort? Who cares who she fucks for a buck ya know i mean damn personaly I think it was wrong in so many ways to even come here and post this, its bad for the company and made you look like a total ass imo. Now I know you will prolly flame away talk about my grammar etc. etc. etc. Go for it, *shrugs*


Tom

for the record, I don't do freesites, I do AVS.

you can contact me at ICQ 16075497 or [email protected]

I tried talking about AVS way back months ago, probably around october or november of last year with no luck. I've personally recommened to many many single girls who have their own sites to go with AVS to get things up and running and to make small avs feeders but I always find that nearly none of them are the least bit interested in doing any of it themselves.

Now if you're willing to hold everyone's hand and do all the work yourself then you have at it man, but I sure wouldn't.

I don't know if this was called or not, but how are you enrolled for fall semester? They don't start registration this early. Well at least they didn't at any of the colleges I went to.

I know what you mean. I meet girls at most of the webmaster functions/parties I attend and try to explain to them the benfits of using AVS as a way to actually get paid for an extensive tour to their member sites, but you are right. Most are "too busy" to do it themselves.

Still, I present the offer and I figure eventually I will find one with some vision.

good catch Loryn . . . . so, Heather, perhaps we should put a time limit on thios wager. I recently refinaced my home and it is only for another 30 years.

hahahahahaha i'm the one with that vision bro! I've been trying to convince these women who's single girl sites are struggling forever to go this way. But I bet of all the women I've ever talked to I can't think of but maybe one of them smart enough to do it.

99% of them are looking for a webmaster blinded by the pussy to do anything and everything while they try to look good with a dick in their mouths. Fuck it, I'll still try to help but I already know the outcome, however when I meet a girl who's willing to do the work and sees the vision I more impressed than normal.

Girls like Kayla, she's not on here spamming her site all the time and she's working on hard making it something. Kayla, Sammy, Betty, Amber, are just a few!

:thumbsup

I think Kayla even paid for her own boobs :)

Guys the AVS thing is a good idea especially as an extensive tour that you get paid for, but you have GOT to admit that anything with "avs" on it is like a man with leprosy right now.
So many AVS have gone down the tubes and no one believes it when the few that are remaining say "we don't have any problems with Visa and we're still going to be here in 6 months". That's what they all said, and look where they're at - if you can find 'em.

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:thumbsup Your my kind of person Orgasmics - Honest and to the point!

Michelle are you coming to the small webmaster get together at Atkins park Friday? The shame of all this donation crap is, someone will really need our help and at that point we will all be so jaded we will turn a deaf ear and thats sad.

Thanks Marina. I'm usually a nice person, but when it's necessary to be a bitch, I will be.

Hi Tony :)
I hadn't heard about that one yet. I'll have to check into it. I hope you and Amanda are doing well.
Yep, it really bothers me when people ask for donations for stupid crap like this. It should be reserved for those who truly need it.

We are doing real good ,thanks for asking . Here is the link to the info http://www.atlantaadultwebmasters.co...ct=ST;f=1;t=11

I'd love to be there, Tony. It's just so hard to make arangements for the kids with short notice. I'll see what I can do, but if it doesn't work out, perhaps the next time.
Take care of yourself and your lovely lady.

Cant you just lock them in a room with a big bowl of food ? lol Thank you , we are thinking of doing a webmaster get together at our loft we will let you know with lots of time. :)

lol, if it were only that easy, Tony.
Yes, please let me know. michelle at shemp dot com

C'mon Heather... you have all the time in the world to post hundreds of times in your own threads.

So what's it gona be???