NP. What city does he live in?

J.

your location states uk. the laws there are different from the us. stop giving him shit advice.

a creditor can call you at work about a debt if you've provided the creditor with your work phone number.

in a case like this, he is not a creditor. he is simply a buyer who is being frauded by a seller.

gobigtime, calling his family, relatives, etc. is sketchy grounds. he could technically call it harassment and press charges, although he'd have little to go on, especially if you're polite during the call. if you call from a payphone, he'd also have trouble proving it was you.

Lewisville.

Wrong, it's only fraud if you can PROVE in court that the person deliberatly set out to decive you and never intended to pay for the goods, or was running a scam of some kind.

As this issue stands the person has just not fulfilled their side of the contract.

Fuck, that's just 20 mins away. I'm aways going through there to play roller hockey in Denton.

Well I would want to recite the problem.. the failed transaction.

I'd blow my cover right away :)

if you make it seem like you're genuinely interested in his well being, there's not much they can say. especially if the calls aren't recorded.

this has nothing to do with someone not paying for goods. are you even reading the post?

the seller listed an auction, he was paid, and he failed to deliver the goods. that is fraud. i've been in gobigtime's shoes many times. i've filed police reports and fbi internet fraud reports and i've received refunds or my goods 9 times out of 10.

i know what i'm talking about.

Yes my location say's UK, that's why I said I didn't know about contacting his regarding the matter, I said it would depend on local laws.

I wanted to warn this person that there are often laws resricting the rights of somebody chasing a dept.

The US legal system varies so much from state to state I hardly think there's a huge difference between Criminal and Civil law between the US and UK.

It's simple you entered into a contract and the other person failed to honour that contract. There is nothing to lead anyone to presume at this stage that fraud has been commited.

Has he ever answered the phone?

Also, where do you live?

This sucks dude, it happened to me once with a mobile phone, didn't send for 6 weeks, then I stated I would pay him a visit the item was there within 3 days..:1orglaugh

You're right I keep going away from the thread to do something else and I forgot that the agreement was the other way around. I really doesn't matter which way around the contract was and who the buyer/ seller was.

FYI I have worked in credit control and finance for quite a long time and used to deal with persuing people for simolar things on a daily basis.

i work for a visa. i know what i'm talking about concerning credit.

this topic has nothing to do whatsoever with credit or financing.

nothing whatsoever.

I am aware that it has nothing to do with finance, but it still isn't fraud.

If you work for Visa, you will know the length of time that you are eligable for chargebacks for? and don't give me the US/UK bullshit because it's Visa international rules and they are standard. You can't look it up anywhere because they don't publish it.

Mmmm long silence......:1orglaugh

It depends on the type of chargeback you're doing. There are multiple different types of chargebacks (unrecognized charge, recurring charge, merchandise not received, credit not received, merchandise not as described, etc). typically, the time limit is 120 days and the merchant has 45 days to respond. in some cases, there's a 180 day limit.

i don't deal with chargebacks however, i deal with visa branch/customer support.

if you doubt my employment, i'll extend to you the same challenge i extend to everyone else. i'll give you my full name, the 1-800 # to contact me, my personal extension and my working hours and you can feel free to contact me.

i'm on a leave of absence until March 9th, however you can feel free to contact one of my co-workers who will gladly confirm i am indeed a visa employee and i am indeed on leave of absence.

and do not mistake my silence for ignorance. as unlikely as it may seem, i do have a life outside gfy.

Charge Back, or go round and see him

Theiving hahahaha - sorry dude to hear you lost some hard earned cash.

Never answered. I live in California mostly.

Post his details on dating sites and make his life hell

Well.. I basically sent him this for now:




So everyone check your email & if you see this email sitting in there
send me my fucking package :winkwink:

Mmmm long silence......:1orglaugh

asshat.

and i'm back to work on March 8th, not the 9th. my mistake.

I believe you work for visa now. It will be interesting to find out what the local police say about it. I'm pretty sure they would only get involved if there was reason to believe fraud was involved or the person needed tracking down etc.

As he has the address already I think they will tell him to take legal advise. Hopefully we will find out....

Like I've said, I've been caught in his exact same situation many times, and the cops have been very helpful.

here's what to do, call paypal and they'll put a freeze on the sellers account and then they have 5-7days to present a valid tracking number for the product if they don't then paypal will refund your money back from them. since they have access to that person CC and Checking account. I've done this to a few times already and have received the product or refund.

you have to do this within 30days though. don't listen to the people on here giving bad advice. let paypal dispute is for you they can get the money back faster without causing yourself more headaches and problems.

accurately speaking

the tread title is "Scammed on Ebay what can I do?"
It doesn't read Scammed by Ebay what can I do?

just an observation :thumbsup

Cool... still well within 30 days.

If he doesn't respond tomorrow, I'll definitely pursue the other options.

Is he a member of this board?

I doubt it.

But wouldn't it be funny if he were?

:glugglug

Do you mind if I use a modified version of this? I'm having a similar problem and if I don't hear anything for a few days, this may come in handy. I can't afford to throw away $889 for no reason.

np.. have at it :thumbsup

Great.

I'd write my own, but yours is so damn comprehensive why bother.

WHOA

Just noticed the Vic-20. How much?

Are you going to Philly Classic?

Stop buying crap on Ebay.

Ebay = SUCKER :1orglaugh

Status?

???

FOLLOW UP:

:winkwink:

try calling them and paypal - paypal will handle it.

For reference, in case this happens again to any of you...

eBay pretty much has a non-existant privacy policy, if you scam someone on eBay, all you need to do ask ask your local police department to send a fax to eBay asking for information on the party that scammed you.

"One fax to eBay from a lawman - police investigator, NSA, FBI or CIA employee, National Park ranger - and eBay sends back the user's full name, email address, home address, mailing address, home telephone number, name of company where seller is employed and user nickname. What's more, eBay will send the history of items they have browsed, feedbacks received, bids they have made, prices they have paid, and even messages sent in the site's various discussion groups."

All of this without a subpoena. :thumbsup

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pa...&listSrc=Y8/03

Hope this helps someone in the future!

That is what I would do, well something similar.
Would get your money back and maybe he'd think twice before pulling such a stunt again.

:2 cents:

Btw... he STILL never actually RESPONDED or appologized for the delay or lack of (any) communication.

After sending him the email above, he just entered my email address online when creasting the UPS pick up request & it kicks out an email to me.


Worst ebay transaction ever.