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Napster Offers 1 BILLION Dollar Settlement
Did ya see that Napster offered 1 billion dollars to have the RIAA drop their case against them, but there's no word on wether or not the RIAA will accept it or not.
I wonder what's gonna happen with that. It'd be nice if they could settle the case already instead of dragging it on and on. I'd be willing to pay for it if the price isn't too crazy. What do you think is gonna happen ?? |
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Well, where is NAPSTER going to get $1 billion dollars from?? lol From makin us pay?
I'd pay NO MORE than $15 a month to have Napster. It's worth it to me cause I can make my own CD's really easily. Save's me a fortune. And NAPSTER is world wide. So they'd make propably $1 billion dollars with in a month!!! LOL ------------------ A wise man once said.."Wherever you go, there you are!" |
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The billion dollars is to be divided up between whatever record companies come aboard over a 5 year period, IF they are allowed to stay open between now and the time they start the subscription service in July. I think they might have been a little too presumptuous. Out of all the users they have, how many will not pay for it at all, and how many are teens without a credit card. They had tried just offerring a percentage, but the record companies wanted numbers.
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i don't get why people are pissing and moaning so much about napster, if they shut down just hop onto irc.. it might be a little bit harder to find mp3's but it still gets the job
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I don't like what people are using napster for. Stealing is stealing and it's hurting the upcoming artists.
If you want to use napster to trade bootlegs and live music, that's fine. I bet some of you can find decent artists that give you their music for free on mp3.com. If you want me to give you links to good metal and rap-metal artists, icq me at 3898575 mmmmmkay. |
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Just switch to bearshare, ya can't stop it because it's based on Gnutella technology, only better, more stabile and faster
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Napster isnt hurting ANY artisits!! are you NUTS??? If you want to play around with numbers, look at the record sales AFTER Napster was "born". Record sales have DOUBLED!!! And it gives little bands that dont have a record deal, the chance to give the song for FREE to people...hoping for a big break!! So that THEIR albums will double as well!
And eventually, all music will be free!! There wasnt this much hassle when you were able to tape songs from the radio!! I dont see what the big deal is! LOL Okay, I'm done venting! ![]() ------------------ A wise man once said.."Wherever you go, there you are!" |
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Its funny but way back in the day when radio was invented the record labels of the time were worried about this new source of free music for the masses. fast forward to today, Napster! Same basic principal just different medium.
From what I had heard was the Napster had agreed to charge a nominal amount (I heard something like $7.95/month) but that would get you access to BMG's music archives. Brilliant idea if you ask me. |
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#9 |
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Well, you see - germany are everywhere and even Napster they bought *grin*
I would pay for Napster if it's not more than 8$/month, but only if theres a quality check for the files. I do not know how often I dowloaded files wich were too silent or not complete - that sucks. And they should add an restore feature for broken downloads as audiogalaxy did (www.audiogalaxy.com) |
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The only people scared and losing out are the greedy fat record companies. New artists are beginning to produce and manage their own stuff and with the boom in computer technology and net marketing some are bypassing the fat giants. Good luck to them all. Lets get music back to its roots and stop these giant marketing houses telling us what is good for us.
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Napster is cool and yes, it is more of a help to people than a hinderance. I check out all songs to see if the record is good enough for me to buy and If I like it I buy it. and I've bet more less crappy cd's since Napster has been up. So technically it helps consumers too. It also teaches the bands NOT TO WRITE so many crappy songs on a cd album and try to better each song with the next
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why use napster ? why pay 15$ for subscription ?
You can go to IRC (Undernet) #mp3passion and D/L ANY song you want for free. And burn it to CDs or anything. ------------------ Easy $$$ For Webmasters - program sell like crazy on all kinds traffic! or try GammaCash for great convertion ratios or make tonns of $$ on pop-ups |
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It's practically impossible to find the independent labels who, under this scheme, they would owe money to. Also, this assumes that the record labels ARE the law. If one small independent record label didn't want to participate in this deal, could they sue Napster and cause the same contraversy there is now?I agree, sort of. This could present other options to Napster far beyond what it seems though. If a small record label wanted their fair share, they could register with Napster. Mabey a payment-per-download system for non RIAA musicians. Napster, could in effect, nullify the Big Five when the contract expires. Musicans could just sign with Napster, with no contractural obligations, (other than Napsters agreement to pay the musicians), allow their music to be distributed on Napster, and still keep whatever other sponsors and promotors they would like to manage things like concerts and the like, and never have to deal with the RIAA co's to gain notoriety or distribution. Napster, in many ways, could become the next Big Five. If they do things right, they could stand to gain an awfull lot of power in the music business. And yes, I am sure that if some musicians didn't want to participate in the deal, some sort of settlement could be reached. I don't doubt Napster would still spend considerable time in court, but at $5.00-$1.67x50,000,000users, I'm sure they will be able to work something out. Almost all large corporations are constantly in court for some reason or another. Big money becomes a big target. That's just how things go. But I still see Napster as somewhat of a revolution. Music has been around for a lot longer than copyrights, RIAA, and recordable media. It will continue be around. But it will change, no doubt. The Big Five labels, like most companies, come and go in time. Their time is ending. Things are going to change. How they do, I don't think anybody can answer in detail right now. Napster and Napster-like services are the future of music distrobution. After the legal battles die down, and the smoke clears, I think we will be looking at something totally different than what we have today.
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Napster DEFINATELY is something to help out the record companies. Hell, I've heard MANY new bands from checking them out on Napster. As a matter of fact, I just got in 3 cds last week, I got 2 of them because I checked them out on Napster. I'm a metalhead and I go on Impulse Musics site, which is a bunch of hard rock/metal cds, mainly imports. What I'll do is go through the listings and if it looks cool, I'll pop it in on Napster for samples. Napster has sure saved me a few bucks AND it made me go out and buy cds to keep me and the record companies happy, so what's wrong with that ??
ALSO, there's bands like 3 Doors Down that when I heard Kryptonite that i heard for the first time, I popped that into Napster, got that sound and a couple of others, the songs wore on me, so I went out and bought the cd. I do that a lot. Mainly, the things that I take from Napster are samples of new bands, old stuff that I used to have on cassette and now listen to it on my computer while I'm working, stuff that's outta print, that i can't get unless I go on Ebay and pay $50 for the cd, and I download individual songs from bands that I'd never buy their cd, but do put out like one good song that catches my ears. Napster DEFINATELY is a possitive thing for everyone involved. I'm sure that there's many people out there that do look for full versions of cds and burn them, but they don't realize that there's people like me that actually want the full cd. Hell, if it's a good disc, I'll dish out the $15 to get the original. I have about 900 cds in my collection, I don't think that the record companies are losing any money from me, he he he. Slick |
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I think Napster is in for a big shock come July. I don't think nearly as many people will sign up for the pay service as they think. Especially not when there is Gnutella, and Gnotella, and bear share. All of these perr-to-peer progrmas are free and no has said anything about them yet. I think they (the record companies) would have to attack each file sharing service one at a time.
Soon there will be tons of peer-to-peer software programs that will allow you to share more than just music. Soon people will be trading software programs like they are baseball cards, except they'll be doing it online. In fact you don't even have to dig too deep to find full blown versions of Adobe PhotoShop 6.0 or Full versions of Windows 2000 Pro. |
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The reason I use Napster, and have for the last year and a half, is to download hard to find songs, remixes and live versions. I don't consider it stealing but there are certain ways that napster is being used that I consider stealing. If you get on there and download all of xzibit's new cd INSTEAD of buying it, then that is taking money out of the artists pocket. That's not cool. But if you want to download a couple of his songs to see if you want to buy the CD, what's the harm in that? Greedy fat cat record companies have been stealing/shortchanging artists for forever, hypocritical bastards.
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Each and everyday...someone must pay
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http://www.listen.com/
that link above is the greatest service I have ever used. $9.99 a month and I have any song I want and it's legal. I have playlists I can send to anyone and they can even listen to them if they are a member also. I can add them to my blogs . I love it. no files to download, no viruses, just pure 100% the best service. I'm not an affilliate or have anything to do with them except being a member. just giving them props ![]()
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I haven't bought a CD in years, and steal music daily.
But if an artist I like is in town, I usually go see them. I see 1-3 concerts a month, ranging from $20 to $45 for the seat... A lot more of that goes to the artist than the damn CD sale does. |
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the new napster is nice, bought a $15.00 card at Target the other day and downloaded the music.
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One often overlooked source of revenue is music rights, like when they sell the rights to use a song in a movie, there is plenty of cash exchanging hands there, certainly the band/artist must see some of that, and it's probably more than the pennies they see from CD sales.
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anyone heard of kazaa?
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i buy all my cds.
i listen to alot of indie music, more then bigger shit. they need the money end of story.
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oh boy.
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Umm... this is what I see:
bRIAAdshaw: Damnit N4pdoGG! I'm not gonna stand for you cutting into our business any longer! N4pDoGG: Yeah right! F$@#$ you bRIAAdshaw: You can't touch N4pDoGG - we don't host any of the files homie! bRIAAdshaw: That's your defense? ![]() :: A few days later N4apdoGG gets served.... N4pDoGG: Oh shit! Hey hey, wait a min bRIAAdshaw, can't we just get along? Let's make a deal that works out to both of our advantage or something? I don't have the kind of money to fight some long drawn out court battle with you - we'll never make that kind of cash! bRIAAdshaw: heh heh that's what I thought N4pDogg you bitchster. Well.. ok.. I'm sure we can work something out -- in fact, I think we may have just the thing.... ![]() :: Several months later, at press conference somewhere in LA... N4pDoGG: We at N4pDoGG would like to extend our deepest and most sincere appologies for distrupting the income of bRIAAdshaw. We hope that they will accept our ONE BILLION DOLLAR settlement offer for damages we may have casued them. bRIAAdshaws official public reply: Fine N4pDoGG. But NEXT TIME someone does this, they wont get off nearly as easy. That's a promise. :: After the press conference... N4pDoGG: Well that turned out well. Now what? bRIAAdshaw: I dunno.. wanna go fishing? N4pDoGG: Hell yeah! But I get to bait the hooks ok? bRIAAdshaw: Deal. THE END. |
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I think 1bil is quite a lot of money. They must have some secret marketting plan if they think they'll be able to pay off the record companies and make a profit when p2p programs like Kazaa, imesh, and bearshare still exist.
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Ive bought a TON of music from indie bands and handed them the money directy at the shows.
No middle men, no bullshit and the artist gets the loot from my hand to theirs, thats the best way to go in my eyes. Maybe if record companies stopped making shit music, we'd all buy more of it. |
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bumping three year old threads?
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