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slapass 02-15-2004 08:06 AM

I just bookmarked this thread. the idea has tons of applications.

:thumbsup

Libertine 02-15-2004 08:10 AM

Even though I am now officially out of adult, this is a thread I just can't resist...

First of all, people bookmark because they like what's on your page in the first place. If bookmarkers get more stuff, you'd get more bookmarkers by putting that stuff on your site for non-bookmarkers... you know, the people that still need convincing.

Second, people use all sorts of ways to get to sites. Some just click a link on another page to your site every day, or simply type your url in google. Those people are most often the newbies, the ones that can make you the most money.

Third, offering something especially for bookmarkers sounds too much like a gimmick, or maybe something shady. It sounds like you're trying to sell something, which actually makes it harder to get the bookmarkers you want.


If you want to get bookmarkers, get an easy to remember domain name (most bookmarkers are actually typ-ins), offer great content, have an easy to navigate site, and make the surfer feel "safe" on your page (no links to popup hells, no misleading links, etc).
If you want to put something on the site specifically for bookmarkers, make it something that is easily accessible for non-bookmarkers which is only useful on return visits. For instance, offer something that lets them anonymously store their porn links or offer a hq vid series that is updated daily or weekly.

goBigtime 02-15-2004 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

First of all, people bookmark because they like what's on your page in the first place. If bookmarkers get more stuff, you'd get more bookmarkers by putting that stuff on your site for non-bookmarkers... you know, the people that still need convincing.

Amidst the eternal circle jerk that is blind-link TGP trades, people sometimes forget to bookmark things while they have their dicks in their hands. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Second, people use all sorts of ways to get to sites. Some just click a link on another page to your site every day, or simply type your url in google. Those people are most often the newbies, the ones that can make you the most money.

All the more reason to use my idea. It T R A I N S them on how to easily revisit your site from their computer. If there is a daily updated feature that they like & that they are coming back for - they'll have to do it via bookmark or by remembering and typing in your name.

This way you get credits for "bookmark" visitors on the various counters. And the big players know that "bookmark traffic" is higher quality than blindly-clicked-a-link traffic. See?



Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Third, offering something especially for bookmarkers sounds too much like a gimmick, or maybe something shady. It sounds like you're trying to sell something, which actually makes it harder to get the bookmarkers you want.
I'm not sure how shady it would sound, but it costs them very little (a bookmark & return visit) to find out if it was a geniune offer or not. If it was a geniune offer & they were interested enough to bookmark & return for it -- then you're in like flynn.




Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
....For instance, offer something that lets them anonymously store their porn links or offer a hq vid series that is updated daily or weekly.
Great ideas :thumbsup

Intelligence 02-15-2004 08:28 AM

Bookmark traffic converts terrible, but eventually a freeloader will bust out the CC and drop a signup when he sees what he absolutely can't live without

goBigtime 02-15-2004 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Intelligence
Bookmark traffic converts terrible
:1orglaugh

If you really believe that, Quiet will buy all your hun links :winkwink:

Libertine 02-15-2004 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime

...

You can get people out of the circle jerk of blind link trades by not using blind link trades, or only using very little. That gets people to bookmark more as well. (just remember to remind them to bookmark)
Let's face it, if you offer a semi-normal amount of content but throw in many blind links, people just aren't gonna bookmark a lot. They'll click a few links, then get directed to another site where something gets their attention, and they're gone until they've blown their load... at which point they'll just close all the open windows.
To get them to bookmark, they need to find something exceptional... the site which lets them find the porn they need without redirection and shit.

Training surfers generally doesn't work that well, sadly enough. Many have tried it, but the reality remains that surfers just want to do things whichever way they prefer with as little interference as possible from the sites they visit. If they need to do extra stuff to see your site, chances are they won't be bothered.

Your idea could work, but then you'd need to use a reward that really makes it worth it to the surfer... generally, a reward that big would have an equally great effect if it was available to all surfers.

goBigtime 02-15-2004 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld


You can get people out of the circle jerk of blind link trades by not using blind link trades, or only using very little. That gets people to bookmark more as well. (just remember to remind them to bookmark)

You're not following... the hook(s) is the primary reason for them to bookmark & return daily.

Not the non-bookmarker area.

Think about that for awhile.

Think about what I said about counters.


Listen to John... it's the hook! The hook brings em' back.
http://images.jambase.com/festivals/...-Brews0015.jpg

maxjohan 02-15-2004 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime


Was that for Dynamix or me? :Graucho

And what are you trying to say exactly anyway?





Because what I am trying to say is people get jerked around by TGP's all the time... you can have a 300k TGP one day and under 1k hits on that same TGP the next day if your trades die.


What sense is that?

What I'm saying is be a bit more proactive about bookmarking, in order to actually build a REAL following to the site.

Every person that returns from a bookmark or types in your domain is a repeat visitor of yours.



Once you build this following & you're established in the top 10 on counter lists, you can get all the trades and submissions you could handle.


I was originally going to couple this with a traffic brokering business using a custom traffic analysis module that would catch cooks like nothing else.

so where is your big tgps?

let me guess, your a teo guy that when it comes to "doing it" you
don't have what it takes...??

:glugglug

maxjohan 02-15-2004 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxjohan
so where is your big tgps?

let me guess, your a teo guy that when it comes to "doing it" you
don't have what it takes...??

:glugglug

and you are broke.

:2 cents:

goBigtime 02-15-2004 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxjohan
so where is your big tgps?

let me guess, your a teo guy that when it comes to "doing it" you
don't have what it takes...??

:glugglug

Oh don't worry - I do, and have done plenty. :)


Like I said in the start of this thread.... I'm burnt out on adult. I've been "in adult" since about 1996.

The times are changing and, for me, it's time for change.

So the good idea (and probably more over the coming weeks) is yours. Enjoy.



Btw...got any of those pretty calendar girls you want to show us?

teomaxxx 02-15-2004 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime




When did you get into adult?

err.. doesn't matter.

Free sites were around before you got into adult.


If you want to say stop making TGP's and freesites, then you might as well say stop making affiliate programs too.

TGP's and other various forms of "Free porn" were born & exist because of affiliate programs.

TGP's and other various forms of "Free porn" were born because of horny guys trying to find some free picturess and started these free pictures (sites )link from their own sites to share it with other horny guys.
but dont forget there are other ways how to earn better money then average TGP webmaster does, without giving anything for free :)

Intelligence 02-15-2004 08:46 AM

50 Genius Schemes

Edit: You son of a bitch

goBigtime 02-15-2004 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Intelligence
50 Genius Schemes

Edit: You son of a bitch


1 slow poster.

Dopy 02-15-2004 09:49 AM

So you want a nice clean TGP with lots of bookmarkers to love cherish and get friendly with.

Take your existing TGP, remove all trades pop ups and bullshit, make sure it loads fast then feed it with a network of brutal CJ sites.

You can?t make heavy trades and keep a happy crowd all under one roof.

Takes a while but it works well.

wyldblyss 02-15-2004 10:20 AM

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. Others may not agree with your ideas but you would think that this place would be one where people would be able to talk business without getting thwapped.

maxjohan 02-15-2004 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime


Oh don't worry - I do, and have done plenty. :)


Like I said in the start of this thread.... I'm burnt out on adult. I've been "in adult" since about 1996.

The times are changing and, for me, it's time for change.

So the good idea (and probably more over the coming weeks) is yours. Enjoy.



Btw...got any of those pretty calendar girls you want to show us?

no problem was just reflecting to myself lol..and other board kids that try to show there skill or money or whatever without real success.

Not a bad idea I think. But it's really hard to say with this business
what's bring in the most money..porn is a special business.

What I mean is that it's hard to track down what brings you the
most money because the product(porn) is so special.

test test test.

kudos to you :)

Trax 02-15-2004 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime


When did you get into adult?

err.. doesn't matter.


emmm lol
nothing personal
but compare your signup date here at GFY and then look at mine lol

i think i know a bit about this industry
at least enough to know that starting a TGP nowadays is a waste of time :)

maxjohan 02-15-2004 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime


Oh don't worry - I do, and have done plenty. :)


Like I said in the start of this thread.... I'm burnt out on adult. I've been "in adult" since about 1996.

The times are changing and, for me, it's time for change.

So the good idea (and probably more over the coming weeks) is yours. Enjoy.



Btw...got any of those pretty calendar girls you want to show us?

http://www.420calendar.com/img/Kryst...20a%20(22).jpg
You can see my
juicy pussy at..

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P.S. A special is going on for GFY MEMBERS...

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:thumbsup

Michaelious 02-15-2004 10:58 AM

Cool idea and kinda simple too.

$5 submissions 02-15-2004 10:58 AM

Interesting.

goBigtime 02-15-2004 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax



emmm lol
nothing personal
but compare your signup date here at GFY and then look at mine lol

Nothing personal... but from 1996-2003 I was too busy working on various projects in and out of the industry to mess around on forums all day like I do now :winkwink:

goBigtime 02-16-2004 11:43 AM

Quote:

1. Cool TGP idea... Enjoy.**
Topic: Take it and run with it!
Started by: goBigtime
See Thread >>

Nice :)

I only wish I had the time/desire to do it & my traffic brokering idea on my own.

At least we know the Adult.com screeners know a good idea when they see it.


Thanks again Adult.com people. :thumbsup

MetaMan 02-16-2004 11:46 AM

why the fuck do u want tons of bookmarkers!? most bookmarkers come to tgps for a reason FREE PORN! and if they are coming there for FREE PORN! they are wayyyyy less likely to sign up to memberships.

goBigtime 02-16-2004 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan
why the fuck do u want tons of bookmarkers!? most bookmarkers come to tgps for a reason FREE PORN! and if they are coming there for FREE PORN! they are wayyyyy less likely to sign up to memberships.
Doh. I guess I had it all wrong.

Sorry everyone. Horrible idea.

:glugglug

Spud 02-16-2004 01:41 PM

Great thread, and a nice idea goBigtime.


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