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p1mpdogg · 02-12-2004, 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by xxxtreme
I can't see any blacklisted country @ SilverCash and guess why Mike is one of the richest men in this biz? money is not dirty!

and btw why Poland is blacklisted? SunnyDollars is a great program! freedom for all! Whatever

are you bi-polar?

tolik · 02-12-2004, 04:57 AM

you all forgot one SMALL detail

pay period almost end - people dont be paid.

rebills etc.

broke · 02-12-2004, 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by tolik
you all forgot one SMALL detail

pay period almost end - people dont be paid.

rebills etc.

WTF are you talking about?

Sig Whore · 02-12-2004, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tolik
you all forgot one SMALL detail

pay period almost end - people dont be paid.

rebills etc.

face it - you sir are a cheating scumbag... its all over AWI and virtually every other scammer forum that you post on.

tells people somehting about you when even boards that are used primarily by scammers want nothing to do with you

korzon · 02-12-2004, 05:00 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

okie dokie.. if you dont have 5 minutes to spare, you are prolly a scammer anyways

Or just a man who values his time.

Pornwizzard · 02-12-2004, 05:02 AM

You baned quite a few of new EU member countries. I'm from one of them and have been in this game for the past 8 years. Never had a problem with any sponsor about this issue. Oh well, I better go take your sites off

Regards,
Darko

webgurl · 02-12-2004, 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

shut up chink

interesting ....

tolik · 02-12-2004, 05:03 AM

Sig Whore - guess why you are whore?

i dont care about your bullshit what you post about me.

really.

i dont even think about work with this epiccash.

so - can you now, please, suck my cock without barking?

Sig Whore · 02-12-2004, 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by tolik
Sig Whore - guess why you are whore?

i dont care about your bullshit what you post about me.

really.

i dont even think about work with this epiccash.

so - can you now, please, suck my cock without barking?

S to the C to the A to the double M to the E to the R

Ill fly anyones sig for 24 hours who can go to AWI and list a minimum of 15 threads about this SCAMMER tolik

tolik · 02-12-2004, 05:07 AM

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Originally posted by broke

WTF are you talking about?

forget it.

people have your adv on and cant fast remove your links.

so you get this way extra cash.

tolik · 02-12-2004, 05:11 AM

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Originally posted by Sig Whore

S to the C to the A to the double M to the E to the R

Ill fly anyones sig for 24 hours who can go to AWI and list a minimum of 15 threads about this SCAMMER tolik

hehe

you talking about shit what thief called 'mafiaboy' post about me?
kid steal my scripts and after this post what i cheat him for steal from his site 50 HITS a day. funny, isnt it?

go-go people read about this canadiano-italiano thieft

btw, 15? you have a problems with eyes - go buy nice big ugly glasses.

Pornwizzard · 02-12-2004, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

there are about 300k webmasters i think, we just banned about 80k of them

Guess that makes you a quick few millions by stealing whatever $ they have made for you so far

Theo · 02-12-2004, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by Weppel

2Pac is dead!

Porn Mickey · 02-12-2004, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

are you bi-polar?

are you? I'm telling you the truth and stop being arrogant about other nations. I guess you're naturally from Europe...

pornstar2pac · 02-12-2004, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by Weppel

2Pac is dead!

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

what he said

Pornwizzard · 02-12-2004, 05:24 AM

do you pay jews? or black people for that matter?

broke · 02-12-2004, 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by tolik

forget it.

people have your adv on and cant fast remove your links.

so you get this way extra cash.

At least you were able to construct one coherent sentence there. Too bad it was only two words in length.

tolik · 02-12-2004, 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by broke

At least you were able to construct one coherent sentence there. Too bad it was only two words in length.

nice answer

really good

silent confirmation of my words, cool, i like this.

Sig Whore · 02-12-2004, 05:40 AM

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Originally posted by broke

At least you were able to construct one coherent sentence there. Too bad it was only two words in length.

Jer · 02-12-2004, 05:42 AM

C'mon guys, if you're from a banned country and have references from other sponsors just ICQ pimpdog like I did. Just like you do with any other sponsor when your country isn't accepted in the Terms & Conditions.

tolik · 02-12-2004, 05:50 AM

who need this after he call all 'banned' webmasters - cheaters.

yes, maybe he accept you. but at one day he change his mind and tell you - fuck off my small asslicker.

who wanna this?

right, only asslickers.

tolik · 02-12-2004, 05:58 AM

here some programms who dont care where you from if you work clean.

http://www.xxmoney.com/?ref=uapteam

http://www.adultmastercash.com/?adv=rls01121

http://www.avcash.com/?uapteam

if you need more - contact me

synergysex · 02-12-2004, 05:59 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

excellent link!

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_fra
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_fra
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_fra
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_fra
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_fra

read that!

The USA is #2. Ever since customers learned that they could chargeback thier credit cards, fraud has went through the roof.

The difference between being fucked by a cheating webmaster in Iowa and being fucked by a cheating webmaster in Bumfuck, Asia is that the one in Iowa can be easily and fairly cost effectively sued and prosecuted for the losses he caused the affiliate program.

2002 · 02-12-2004, 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by MikeStew
Ok i understand your point, but i still belive that are great webmasters from banned countrys too and some only work with usa traffic!

Why don't you put an email contact so a webmaster from a banned country can get a review from the sites he will be sending traffic ?
And maybe a period of experience...

A serious webmaster would drop an email!

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

that is actually an excellent idea.. I WILL do that.

I agree there ARE good webmasters from banned countries. I never denied that. but when 90% of that country makes your business lose money, you have a choice to make. I made mine, but it can be revised..

thank you

This discussion should be much better if you say "I will not allow TRAFFIC from these countries: 1...2...3..."

I`m a webmaster from Eastern Europe, all my traffic (90%, SE based) originated from North America, Europe, English speaking.
Example:...For last 2 years one of my sponsors is totemcash. I have 0,00% chargebacks, only ~2% - check refunds.
I can`t understand where is the difference bw me and a North American webmaster?! The address???!!!
The quality of Traffic and money is the first ones. It is simplest way to block unwanted traffic instead of fucking webmasters only because of their address. I`m happy i didn`t start working with EC.

amph · 02-12-2004, 06:44 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg
the following countries are banned from joining out programs; Albania, Argentina, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Brazil, Bulgaria, China, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czech Republic, Ecuador,Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kaliningrad, Kazakhstan, Korea, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Malaysia, Moldova, Pakistan, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russia(past and present), Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Syria, Spain, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, and Yugoslavia. If you are from these countries or representing someone from these banned countries, your account with Epic Cash will be terminated immediately without payment.

.................................................. ..................

we have decided you scumbags suck ass

I understand where the decision to ban these countries is coming from and you have every right to do so.

However, calling every webmaster from these countries a scumbag is a bit out of hand tho IMHO.

ModelPerfect · 02-12-2004, 07:01 AM

Out of curiosity, why ban Japan?

02-12-2004, 07:03 AM

Attention all, JesusCash still accepts webmasters from all countries with wide open arms!

Fight the discrimination, Fight the Injustice, Fight the hate!

ModelPerfect · 02-12-2004, 07:38 AM

Well, I don't guess I'll use your sponsorship in the future: NOT because you are banning certain countries, because I realize a lot of big companies have similar lists, but because of how you presented the issue and are dealing with the response. If I am to trust a company with my money, I have to first trust that they respect their affiliates, treat them with integrity and don't suddenly alter the terms and agreements to avoid paying.

monro · 02-12-2004, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by mayday9
You baned quite a few of new EU member countries. I'm from one of them and have been in this game for the past 8 years. Never had a problem with any sponsor about this issue. Oh well, I better go take your sites off

Regards,
Darko

He is absolutely right banning some of the former eastern countries. They lack something fundamental in doing business!

I'm have worked in eastern countries a few years, I know!

1. Free market is NOT a way of stealing as much as possible.
2. You must be able to trust a friend, even in business.
3. It is not ok to steal even if you can do so without anyone finds out.
4. Agreements must be followed even if not written down.

The communism led you on to a very very bad track!
The free market is not just jeans, choke and easy money!
The free market IS trust and rules.

Joshua · 02-12-2004, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by ldinternet

So shave them.

[email protected] if you need help setting it up.

Joshua · 02-12-2004, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by AM Jeff
What about Pakastini, India, Iraq, Afganistan?

It's Pakistan. Pakastini is the people from there.

icedemon · 02-12-2004, 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by ModelPerfect
Out of curiosity, why ban Japan?

I'm curious on this to. I get a ton of signups from Japan. Japan and Germany are pretty much my bread and butter.

For those of you that talk about Iraq and Afganistan having internet access. You need to get out of the country your in more.

Pornwizzard · 02-12-2004, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by monro

He is absolutely right banning some of the former eastern countries. They lack something fundamental in doing business!

I'm have worked in eastern countries a few years, I know!

1. Free market is NOT a way of stealing as much as possible.
2. You must be able to trust a friend, even in business.
3. It is not ok to steal even if you can do so without anyone finds out.
4. Agreements must be followed even if not written down.

The communism led you on to a very very bad track!
The free market is not just jeans, choke and easy money!
The free market IS trust and rules.

Cut your crap man and don't try to talk about something you have absolutely no clue about.

p1mpdogg · 02-12-2004, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by icedemon

I'm curious on this to. I get a ton of signups from Japan. Japan and Germany are pretty much my bread and butter.

For those of you that talk about Iraq and Afganistan having internet access. You need to get out of the country your in more.

\

OMFG

p1mpdogg · 02-12-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by webgurl

interesting ....

interesting why you decided to spam my thread.

FUCKuPAYme · 02-12-2004, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by webgurl
Well Since Epic won't do it ,
Check us out we pay to all countries

yea but you guys don't convert at all...

below

MiLo · 02-12-2004, 11:30 AM

About time that you closed doors to those scamming south american bastards...

frank7799 · 02-12-2004, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

I will be updating that list shortly

i forgot cuba, columbia etc..

List the countries which are not banned, maybe would be a shorter one.

Kappy · 02-12-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg

what does a tgp have todo with anything? its the source of the traffic that sucks ass..

wether the webmaster is honest or not, 90% of the porblem is the source of the traffic..

What BS is this??? What has the source of traffic to do with where the webmaster lives???

Kappy · 02-12-2004, 11:52 AM

If I'm operating a TGP (for the english speaking market) and I'm sending you hits from this TGP what difference does it do whether I'm in the USA or in one of your banned countries? I have the same traffic source like all other TGPs owned by americans. I don't get this connection.

Every other sponsor is banning the countries based on the amount of cheating webmasters coming from these countries and NOT because they are just living in a country with a higher chargeback rate.

Pornwizzard · 02-12-2004, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
TopBucks TOS
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Prohibited countries:

Due to excessive fraud attempts, CHI does not allow webmasters who reside in the following countries to participate in our program: Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Brazil, Bulgaria, China, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kaliningrad, Kazakhstan, North Korea, South Korea, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Malaysia, Moldova, Pakistan, Philippines, Romania, Russia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, and Yugoslavia.

CeCash
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3.9 All of the following areas constitute PROHIBITED AREAS from which no Program Materials and/or any Company web site may be accessed, viewed, downloaded or otherwise received:

o All parts of the United States of America corresponding to the entire areas corresponding to United States Postal Service zip codes commencing with any of the following three digits: SEE LIST OF RESTRICTED ZIP CODES;

o AND All parts of the following countries: Afghanistan, Germany, Kuwait, Iran, Iraq, Japan, Jordan, Libya, Pakistan, The Republic of China, Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Syria, The United Arab Emirates;

o AND All parts of every other geophysical place corresponding to a political entity or part thereof in which the access, viewing, downloading, dissemination of, or other use of the materials contained in the Site would constitute a violation of any law, regulation rule or custom.

SicCash
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We do no accept webmasters from Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Brazil, Bulgaria, China, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Iberville(Quebec), India, Indonesia, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kaliningrad, Kazakhstan, Korea (North and South), Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Malaysia, Moldova, Pakistan, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, and Yugoslavia.

what makes me any differnt?

I came forward and put my foot down. dont act like this is big news.

You're a primitive idiot with absolutely no PR skills, other than that it's all good

p1mpdogg · 02-12-2004, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mayday9

You're a primitive idiot with absolutely no PR skills, other than that it's all good

I have no PR skills?

I beg to differ

HowlingWulf · 02-12-2004, 01:27 PM

Don't feel bad. I'm in the US and got bumped out of EC today because my signups don't convert.

Sp1nal · 02-12-2004, 01:41 PM

Take you hands off the Kaliningrad, you dirty dealer!

smut monger · 02-12-2004, 04:39 PM

Incorporate in US. Then promote any sponsor you want.

lovefucking · 02-12-2004, 04:44 PM

i am not in this country, but i dont like your way of talking, be prepared to receive 100 signups, yeah, all will charge back.

polish_aristocrat · 02-12-2004, 05:00 PM

Maybe a good idea for p1mpdog and others - ask the webmasters from banned countries about their sites, traffic etc...but also check if they speak good Engslish.

if you have a webmaster from banned country and he sends you an email "i am make gallery and submit evey day and this is my way of traffic", then he's IMO more likely to be a cheater ot someone with shitty traffic.

Xenophage · 02-12-2004, 05:01 PM

p1mpdogg · 02-12-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Maybe a good idea for p1mpdog and others - ask the webmasters from banned countries about their sites, traffic etc...but also check if they speak good Engslish.

if you have a webmaster from banned country and he sends you an email "i am make gallery and submit evey day and this is my way of traffic", then he's IMO more likely to be a cheater ot someone with shitty traffic.

I am doing that.. we allowed 20 ppl into the program.. all they had todo was contact me.

matuloo · 02-12-2004, 06:04 PM

You know Pimdog, almost all sponsors are doing the same these days so it's nothing surprising to me. I actually already got used to the fact that I have to talk to sponsors prior to joining their program just to make sure they will accept me and to avoid future problems of course.

I also know why they are doing it, a lot of webmasters from eastern europe tried to cheat in the past - especially when pay per click programs ruled the porn web. But those times are long gone, at least in certain countries.

When I used to run toplists and trade sites, I have always had problems with webmasters from russia. But I never banned the country, I just deleted accounts of those who cheated. And you should do that aswell.

To ban a whole country doesnt make any sence, especially when you come back later and state that you will still accept them if they can provide refferences.

Like I said I know why you did it, I accept that but man you need to learn how to announce simmilar things. You could have saved yourself a lot of trouble and angry webmasters.

All you had to do was to make a polite announcement that you are going to enforce your TOS regarding the countries and that any serious webmaster can still contact you on ICQ and provide refferences in order to stay in your program. Would it really be such a problem?

Now you look like an idiot to a lot of people, including me and many others I talked to. And yes i know you will call me an idiot now and tell me that you can live without my traffic, which is fine. But you caused yourself more bad then you could have - if only you would learn how deal with those people who send you traffic.

02-12-2004, 04:57 AM	#152
tolik Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: inside my brain Posts: 2,035	you all forgot one SMALL detail pay period almost end - people dont be paid. rebills etc. __________________ LONGBUCKS-Teen, Mature, Reality, Gay sites. Free hosting (cgi/php/mysql/cron etc). FHGs. Free content.Great rebills. Support icq - 313-882-945 Webmaster friendly high recommended programs to promote (personal experience): RoyalCash-Teen ProfitX -Video SmokinCash-Amateur,Lesbo,Squirting

02-12-2004, 05:02 AM	#156
Pornwizzard Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 135	You baned quite a few of new EU member countries. I'm from one of them and have been in this game for the past 8 years. Never had a problem with any sponsor about this issue. Oh well, I better go take your sites off Regards, Darko __________________ ICQ: 113063724

02-12-2004, 05:03 AM	#158
tolik Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: inside my brain Posts: 2,035	Sig Whore - guess why you are whore? i dont care about your bullshit what you post about me. really. i dont even think about work with this epiccash. so - can you now, please, suck my cock without barking? __________________ LONGBUCKS-Teen, Mature, Reality, Gay sites. Free hosting (cgi/php/mysql/cron etc). FHGs. Free content.Great rebills. Support icq - 313-882-945 Webmaster friendly high recommended programs to promote (personal experience): RoyalCash-Teen ProfitX -Video SmokinCash-Amateur,Lesbo,Squirting

02-12-2004, 05:24 AM	#166
Pornwizzard Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 135	do you pay jews? or black people for that matter? __________________ ICQ: 113063724

02-12-2004, 05:50 AM	#171
tolik Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: inside my brain Posts: 2,035	who need this after he call all 'banned' webmasters - cheaters. yes, maybe he accept you. but at one day he change his mind and tell you - fuck off my small asslicker. who wanna this? right, only asslickers. __________________ LONGBUCKS-Teen, Mature, Reality, Gay sites. Free hosting (cgi/php/mysql/cron etc). FHGs. Free content.Great rebills. Support icq - 313-882-945 Webmaster friendly high recommended programs to promote (personal experience): RoyalCash-Teen ProfitX -Video SmokinCash-Amateur,Lesbo,Squirting

02-12-2004, 05:42 AM	#170
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	C'mon guys, if you're from a banned country and have references from other sponsors just ICQ pimpdog like I did. Just like you do with any other sponsor when your country isn't accepted in the Terms & Conditions.

02-12-2004, 05:58 AM	#172
tolik Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: inside my brain Posts: 2,035	here some programms who dont care where you from if you work clean. http://www.xxmoney.com/?ref=uapteam http://www.adultmastercash.com/?adv=rls01121 http://www.avcash.com/?uapteam if you need more - contact me __________________ LONGBUCKS-Teen, Mature, Reality, Gay sites. Free hosting (cgi/php/mysql/cron etc). FHGs. Free content.Great rebills. Support icq - 313-882-945 Webmaster friendly high recommended programs to promote (personal experience): RoyalCash-Teen ProfitX -Video SmokinCash-Amateur,Lesbo,Squirting

02-12-2004, 07:01 AM	#176
ModelPerfect Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,862	Out of curiosity, why ban Japan? __________________ Logan modelperfect [at] gmail.com http://www.modelperfect.com (Proudly hosted at www.webair.com )

02-12-2004, 07:03 AM	#177
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Attention all, JesusCash still accepts webmasters from all countries with wide open arms! Fight the discrimination, Fight the Injustice, Fight the hate!

02-12-2004, 07:38 AM	#178
ModelPerfect Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,862	Well, I don't guess I'll use your sponsorship in the future: NOT because you are banning certain countries, because I realize a lot of big companies have similar lists, but because of how you presented the issue and are dealing with the response. If I am to trust a company with my money, I have to first trust that they respect their affiliates, treat them with integrity and don't suddenly alter the terms and agreements to avoid paying. __________________ Logan modelperfect [at] gmail.com http://www.modelperfect.com (Proudly hosted at www.webair.com )

02-12-2004, 11:30 AM	#187
MiLo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: city of the living dead Posts: 2,970	About time that you closed doors to those scamming south american bastards... __________________ ICQ: 9203112

02-12-2004, 11:52 AM	#190
Kappy Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 67	If I'm operating a TGP (for the english speaking market) and I'm sending you hits from this TGP what difference does it do whether I'm in the USA or in one of your banned countries? I have the same traffic source like all other TGPs owned by americans. I don't get this connection. Every other sponsor is banning the countries based on the amount of cheating webmasters coming from these countries and NOT because they are just living in a country with a higher chargeback rate.

02-12-2004, 01:27 PM	#193
HowlingWulf Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,662	Don't feel bad. I'm in the US and got bumped out of EC today because my signups don't convert. __________________ WP Porn directory/review theme Maddos $35. webmaster AT howling-wulf.com

02-12-2004, 01:41 PM	#194
Sp1nal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 425	Take you hands off the Kaliningrad, you dirty dealer! __________________ <br>

02-12-2004, 04:39 PM	#195
smut monger Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 211	Incorporate in US. Then promote any sponsor you want.

02-12-2004, 04:44 PM	#196
lovefucking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 74	i am not in this country, but i dont like your way of talking, be prepared to receive 100 signups, yeah, all will charge back.

02-12-2004, 05:00 PM	#197
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Maybe a good idea for p1mpdog and others - ask the webmasters from banned countries about their sites, traffic etc...but also check if they speak good Engslish. if you have a webmaster from banned country and he sends you an email "i am make gallery and submit evey day and this is my way of traffic", then he's IMO more likely to be a cheater ot someone with shitty traffic. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-12-2004, 05:01 PM	#198
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	word

02-12-2004, 06:04 PM	#200
matuloo Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 441	You know Pimdog, almost all sponsors are doing the same these days so it's nothing surprising to me. I actually already got used to the fact that I have to talk to sponsors prior to joining their program just to make sure they will accept me and to avoid future problems of course. I also know why they are doing it, a lot of webmasters from eastern europe tried to cheat in the past - especially when pay per click programs ruled the porn web. But those times are long gone, at least in certain countries. When I used to run toplists and trade sites, I have always had problems with webmasters from russia. But I never banned the country, I just deleted accounts of those who cheated. And you should do that aswell. To ban a whole country doesnt make any sence, especially when you come back later and state that you will still accept them if they can provide refferences. Like I said I know why you did it, I accept that but man you need to learn how to announce simmilar things. You could have saved yourself a lot of trouble and angry webmasters. All you had to do was to make a polite announcement that you are going to enforce your TOS regarding the countries and that any serious webmaster can still contact you on ICQ and provide refferences in order to stay in your program. Would it really be such a problem? Now you look like an idiot to a lot of people, including me and many others I talked to. And yes i know you will call me an idiot now and tell me that you can live without my traffic, which is fine. But you caused yourself more bad then you could have - if only you would learn how deal with those people who send you traffic.