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quiet 02-08-2004 03:57 PM

1000/day. wow.

- Jesus Christ - 02-08-2004 03:58 PM

B= = =D

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike-BP


Is it really hard to understand that he's getting a good deal at his current hosting company? LOTS of people get this, it's nothing new.

it's not impossible, but it is a legitimate question.

if something looks too good to be true it usually is - esp when someone gets overly emotional about it like choker is doing now.

Choker 02-08-2004 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike-BP


Is it really hard to understand that he's getting a good deal at his current hosting company? LOTS of people get this, it's nothing new.

Sleazy is just a asshole man. He is JEALOUS of anyone that makes in this biz that refuses to kiss his ass.

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


Sleazy is just a asshole man. He is JEALOUS of anyone that makes in this biz that refuses to kiss his ass.

yep, obviously that's what it is..


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Choker 02-08-2004 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


it's not impossible, but it is a legitimate question.

if something looks too good to be true it usually is - esp when someone gets overly emotional about it like choker is doing now.

Overly emotional? I am sick of you dude. Tired of your childish way of saying my traffic is fake. You and I both know very well what you are trying to do. You are a childish asshole who constanty tries to attack my business in a GUTLESS COWARDS way and I am a sick of it. You are a punk Sleazy and you know it don't you ??

scoreman 02-08-2004 04:05 PM

We ought to have a GFY measuring tape for all the mano y mano drama. Just let em whip it out and measure it one time for record and then when the fights start...well hell you can all point to one thing instead of bitch slapping each other repeatedly over hundreds of posts.

Mike-BP 02-08-2004 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


it's not impossible, but it is a legitimate question.

Ofcourse, it's cheap but you said this:

sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real.

I don't think this is fair.

You run lots of thumbs which costs more bandwidth etc. There are so many factors...
His traffic is 100% real, no doubt about it,

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


Overly emotional? I am sick of you dude. Tired of your childish way of saying my traffic is fake. You and I both know very well what you are trying to do. You are a childish asshole who constanty tries to attack my business in a GUTLESS COWARDS way and I am a sick of it. You are a punk Sleazy and you know it don't you ??

choker - you must have fake traffic on the brain constantly. I'm starting to really wonder if you have a guilty concious.

I never once said you have nothing but fake traffic. I said I question the legitimacy of a $300 bandwidth bill with 5 servers and 500,000 hits a day. it's a legitimate question. I'm not singling you out - I would ask that question of ANYONE who posted something similar.

your only response is that I'm an asshole for noticing it and bringing it up.

the fact is, it's making a lot of people wonder now, not just me.

Choker 02-08-2004 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scoreman
We ought to have a GFY measuring tape for all the mano y mano drama. Just let em whip it out and measure it one time for record and then when the fights start...well hell you can all point to one thing instead of bitch slapping each other repeatedly over hundreds of posts.
No no contest needed. This Sleazy is obsessed with me and it is gettying creepy. He constantly tries to make me look like a thief and everytime he gets his ass handed to him yet he does not stop. Fucking stalker is what he is. He trys to be subtle but it is obvious what his intent is. He needs to mind his own business instead of sticking his fat nose in everyone elses.

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike-BP


Ofcourse, it's cheap but you said this:

sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real.

I don't think this is fair.

You run lots of thumbs which costs more bandwidth etc. There are so many factors...
His traffic is 100% real, no doubt about it,

i stand by what i said - if you goto any host and ask for 5 servers to host 500,000 hits a day for $300/month NO ONE will give it to you - unless you bring something else to the table - like another account or the like - and then in reality you're not paying JUSt $300 are you? So that $300 isn't a REAL number is it if the traffic is indeed real.

comment?

Phil 02-08-2004 04:13 PM

370 TGP's...
You're the man dude... never mind what they say here...

Theo 02-08-2004 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaLord
I actually expected Sleazy to jump on this thread harder than he did... Oh well :winkwink:



buahahahahahaha

Choker 02-08-2004 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


choker - you must have fake traffic on the brain constantly. I'm starting to really wonder if you have a guilty concious.

I never once said you have nothing but fake traffic. I said I question the legitimacy of a $300 bandwidth bill with 5 servers and 500,000 hits a day. it's a legitimate question. I'm not singling you out - I would ask that question of ANYONE who posted something similar.

your only response is that I'm an asshole for noticing it and bringing it up.

the fact is, it's making a lot of people wonder now, not just me.

LOL, only person wondering is you asshole, See once again you try to attack me in your yellowbelly way by saying this...

the fact is, it's making a lot of people wonder now, not just me.

Next you will post that you are getting icqs from major players asking you if Chokers traffic is fake or not. You are so full of shit Sleazy. You are such a scumbag dude.

Mike-BP 02-08-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


i stand by what i said - if you goto any host and ask for 5 servers to host 500,000 hits a day for $300/month NO ONE will give it to you - unless you bring something else to the table - like another account or the like - and then in reality you're not paying JUSt $300 are you? So that $300 isn't a REAL number is it if the traffic is indeed real.

comment?

I'm pretty sure Choker has a LOT more servers at the same hosting company for his galleries. So you could say he wouldn't get the same deal if he didn't had these gallery servers. True.

Choker would have to correct me if I'm wrong though but I'm pretty sure he has more servers there.

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


No no contest needed. This Sleazy is obsessed with me and it is gettying creepy. He constantly tries to make me look like a thief and everytime he gets his ass handed to him yet he does not stop. Fucking stalker is what he is. He trys to be subtle but it is obvious what his intent is. He needs to mind his own business instead of sticking his fat nose in everyone elses.

lol

i pick on everyone and anyone on GFY, but for some reason you and pichuter think that if I comment on you saying something stupid in your threads I'm STALKING YOU.. too funny

anyone who has a clue about psychology knows that thoughts like that usually (not always, it's quite possible you're just crazy) come from a guilty concious.

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike-BP


I'm pretty sure Choker has a LOT more servers at the same hosting company for his galleries. So you could say he wouldn't get the same deal if he didn't had these gallery servers. True.

Choker would have to correct me if I'm wrong though.

you just proved my point though - if what you're saying is true then the $300 figgure isn't a true representation of the real cost - as the real cost is tied into the other business he does as well.

Choker 02-08-2004 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


choker - you must have fake traffic on the brain constantly. I'm starting to really wonder if you have a guilty concious.

I never once said you have nothing but fake traffic. I said I question the legitimacy of a $300 bandwidth bill with 5 servers and 500,000 hits a day. it's a legitimate question. I'm not singling you out - I would ask that question of ANYONE who posted something similar.

your only response is that I'm an asshole for noticing it and bringing it up.

the fact is, it's making a lot of people wonder now, not just me.

lol, sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real. Under those circumstances, it's possible to optimise like crazy.


Dude people see thru your bullshit. You thru in the "unless the traffic isn't real" for what reason? LOL. YELLOW BELLY PUNK

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


lol, sorry choker but no one can optimise 500K real hits a day for $300 a month in cost, unless the traffic isn't real. Under those circumstances, it's possible to optimise like crazy.


Dude people see thru your bullshit. You thru in the "unless the traffic isn't real" for what reason? LOL. YELLOW BELLY PUNK

i 'threw it in' cause that's one way to get 500,000 hits a day for a cost of $300.

and it is a possible reason. I never said that was the reason, but it is one possible reason.

it's also possible that noone loads any of your pages and always clicks back before you page even loads. unliky - but possible

another possibility is your counters are wrong - i don't believe this, but it's possible

another possibility is that your lying about the numbers. I don't really believe that either, but it's possible.

another possibility is that your host is just stupid. i don't buy that either, but it's possible


any of those other posibilities work for you?

Choker 02-08-2004 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


i stand by what i said - if you goto any host and ask for 5 servers to host 500,000 hits a day for $300/month NO ONE will give it to you - unless you bring something else to the table - like another account or the like - and then in reality you're not paying JUSt $300 are you? So that $300 isn't a REAL number is it if the traffic is indeed real.

comment?

look here dumbass. Joeblow can come in off the street and get a 10mbps server from phatservers that can handle 500k a day for only $450 a month. Do you think it is that much of a stretch for me to get a better deal if i BUY QUANTITY?

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


look here dumbass. Joeblow can come in off the street and get a 10mbps server from phatservers that can handle 500k a day for only $450 a month. Do you think it is that much of a stretch for me to get a better deal if i BUY QUANTITY?

you said 5 servers though

:Graucho

Theo 02-08-2004 04:28 PM

:glugglug

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 04:30 PM

sorry choker - it was fun but i goto go for a few hours.. be backlater - this was fun.

go have sunday dinner with your daughters, i won't make any more fun of you till later this evening.

:thumbsup

Choker 02-08-2004 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
sorry choker - it was fun but i goto go for a few hours.. be backlater - this was fun.

go have sunday dinner with your daughters, i won't make any more fun of you till later this evening.

:thumbsup

Nah that's ok. They are busy looking for the hot dog maker and my sledgehammer.

Donny 02-08-2004 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


you said 5 servers though

:Graucho


Of course he's talking about servers that do other things besides the TGPs in question. There is nothing wrong with that.

If you had a car dealership and you wanted to know how much is was costing you to leave the lights outside on all night, you would not be very happy if your accountant quoted the full amount of the electricity bill, now would you?

Likewise, Choker has broken down the costs for hosting the TGP galleries. Nothing at all wrong with that.

pussyluver 02-08-2004 04:54 PM

This was a great thread until Sleazy and Choker got into that cat fight... Donny, I miss called that pissing contest a 100 posts ago. Should of waited for Sleazy. Well at least it's high GFY drama.

Chokers traffic is real, next question.

I pay $240 for two servers and a couple hundred gig of transfer a month. To talk about server cost, ya have to start asking about bandwidth and all. Having been to the Choker sites, he must be using some. Everything is quick...

Think I may be paying to much for the servers?. That is for unmanged servers too.

aaron 02-08-2004 05:03 PM

some of sleazys posts truly make me want to puke.. maybe its just the tuna i had for lunch though? :helpme

slapass 02-08-2004 05:07 PM

Even if the "true" cost was $300/ server we are arguing over $1500 a month or $50/day. So lets say Choker "only" makes $950/day in Sleazy's model.

Still nice!

Choker 02-08-2004 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
Even if the "true" cost was $300/ server we are arguing over $1500 a month or $50/day. So lets say Choker "only" makes $950/day in Sleazy's model.

Still nice!

The "true" cost of the servers the TGP's are on is $60 each a month. They are very small boxes capped at 3mbps each. No support. Even if a server goes down it is not rebooted until I call in and request it. So there is practically ZERO support. And it could take days just to get a hardware issue resolved. Actually one of them has been down since friday. But when you have many of them, do your own DNS and expire domains in 15 minutes and have backup servers standing by with backed up databases, then if a server goes down you just change the zone file and boom you are back up. This is not a solution for the average webmaster. But for me it works fine. This is why i get such a good deal on certain servers.

Niki 02-08-2004 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
1000/day. wow.

now is this thread complete ...

I was expecting this reply on first page though ;)

SleazyDream 02-08-2004 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
Even if the "true" cost was $300/ server we are arguing over $1500 a month or $50/day. So lets say Choker "only" makes $950/day in Sleazy's model.

Still nice!

here's the thing though - if one part isn't quite right - what's to say the rest of it isn't exactly accurate as well. I'm not saying choker doesn't make money - he does well for himself, but he got WAY to emotional on this thread for me to believe that he was telling the WHOLE story...

:glugglug

pradaboy 02-09-2004 01:17 AM

haha SleazyWhore stop crying man... Choker is making bank so what's it to ya?
Stop the drama and just try to do what he does punky ass bitch.

Choker> leave the pathetic crybaby to die and just laugh all the way to the bank :thumbsup

SleazyDream 02-09-2004 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pradaboy
haha SleazyWhore stop crying man... Choker is making bank so what's it to ya?
Stop the drama and just try to do what he does punky ass bitch.

Choker> leave the pathetic crybaby to die and just laugh all the way to the bank :thumbsup

i think choker still has some room on his left testicle.
is your tongue clean?

pradaboy 02-09-2004 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


i think choker still has some room on his left testicle.
is your tongue clean?

go get a life assmuncher :321GFY

Andy 02-09-2004 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


i 'threw it in' cause that's one way to get 500,000 hits a day for a cost of $300.

and it is a possible reason. I never said that was the reason, but it is one possible reason.

it's also possible that noone loads any of your pages and always clicks back before you page even loads. unliky - but possible

another possibility is your counters are wrong - i don't believe this, but it's possible

another possibility is that your lying about the numbers. I don't really believe that either, but it's possible.

another possibility is that your host is just stupid. i don't buy that either, but it's possible


any of those other posibilities work for you?

well I believe the price for host isn't for number of hits but data transfered ..
look, I don't know but the average "choker style" TGP may have like 5kb (actually I made one page TGP 1.8Kb big) .. and do the math:
500.000 hits x 5kb = 2.500.000kb =2.5GB x 30 days = 75GB a month .. how much do you get charged for this ? :drinkup

SomeCreep 02-09-2004 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


The future of TGPs is Build and Forget TGP's. In bulk. Almost impossible to make a 500k a day tgp in todays market. But VERY easy to make 100 5k a day tgps.

Yes, words of wisdom :thumbsup

mistersoft 02-09-2004 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


Yeah but I learned a long time ago to not depend on any sponsors, nor depend on sponsor income when making a business plan. What signups I get I consider spending money

Will you give some hint about how large a percentage of your earnings are from signups?

xxxice 02-09-2004 02:01 AM

I just want to make $$$ :evil-laug

mistersoft 02-09-2004 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eldominik
Man, you`re asking 1000+ clueless noobs to copy you, and I don`t think that will help you much.

Why not. If some of them end up sending some traffic his way - in exchange for the free scripts.

VeriSexy 02-09-2004 02:22 AM

Very easy to get 5 servers for around $300. All he has to do is go to http://www.servermatrix.com/ and get the Super Celeron for $69/Month.

Don't tell me a Celeron is not good enough. I use to run movie gallerys of a freaking cobalt 3i 4 years ago. It only had a 300 Mhz amd with 512 ram on linux. It got about 150K page hits a day and even served 200k movie clips.

Don't call bullshit cause I was the one e-mailed http://trix.sexswap.com/ complaining that my cobalt box wasn't doing the 1 million hits a day that I expected :1orglaugh Anyway, it did pretty damn good for the hardware specs. Plus there was a shitload of movie hotlinkers that added more server load. Took a while to find this link but it does bring back memories :thumbsup

"RAM CHOY TRIES TO TELL ME THE RAQ3i SUCKS!
After my article last week, Ram Choy wrote me to tell me his opinion on the Cobalt RAQ 3i. I think you will find this story and several emails as interesting as I did. In the first email,

Ram Choy: "I have a Raq 3i with 512MB of Ram. I think it sucks and is over priced. Not as good as you think. Its over rated. Just wanted to tell you"

Guru-Of-Gif: "hmm, that's too bad. Tell me why you think it sucks? What OS?"

Ram Choy: The OS is linux and it only uses a 300Mhz AMD cpu. I tryed to tweak the httpd.conf file but it made it worst so I made it back to its original. Call me crazy but I am using it to host my gallerys for TGP sites and all the servers resources are at 90% use (About 150,000 Hits a Day). I am not using any CGI scripts or JAVA. I am sure I can get a much more powerful server for the same price. I bet the the server management software is what cost so much but you can get the almost the same thing from
www.webmin.com/webmin/

I almost fell off my chair. First, sure I will agree with Ram on that you can build a better system on your own for cheaper...but to do that you have to value your labor at $0 an hour. Also, I think we are splitting hairs when you can save less than $1k. The RAQs are still thousands less than any of the big servers.

BUT, did you read what I read? 150 fucking thousand hits a day!!! I used to melt NT boxes at 40,000 front page uniques a day and you can give a UNIX box fits at 60,000-80,000. 150,000 fucking hits a day on s cheapo $2000 box...WOW! WOW! WOW! To me, this is an incredible selling point for these thin servers. Maybe I am way off base, but to me, that is a pile of traffic and I am shocked that the server was able to handle it. My hat's off to Cobalt. I would be interested on anyone else's idea of where you can melt a server in terms of hits and OS."

http://trix.sexswap.com/swap147.html
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