J.R.

Who would have figured that lowering a membership site
to $10.00 from $29.95 would actually raise the members
base and profits.

I tested this for the last month.

Sales doubled and tripled and... the members
base grew overnight.

Retention jumped to 65 to 75%!!!

Wow.. in a few months, we will be kicking ass
with this tour.

Oh well, back 2 work!

NBDesign

Yea, 10.00 sites really kick ass

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Yah, I was actually gonna try it 2 years ago and never got around to it.

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J.R.

I was bored one night so I calleded up Epoch
and got a code for 10.00 and 10.00 recurring.

Joins JUMPED overnight.. if this continues, we will
make more money in just a few months then if
we sat for 1 year with this tour.

I couldn't believe it.

Joshua

It was only time for all to see..

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JensMoviePost

$10 is nothing to spend so conversions should improve as well as rebills with a lower membership fee.

Concern though is having 3x the users accessing your content. Bandwidth bills and those content plugins billed based on # of users would increase.

gleem

I was only converting at 1:1000 with my membership at $39.95 a month, so I dropped my price to $10 and now I am doing 1:300!!!! Joins jumped 300%! It's amazing!! $10 rules!

(this board needs a good eyes rolling smilie)

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Any reccuring $10 sites for webmasters to promote ?

jennycards

So actually with - let's say - 100k traffic you made $3,995 before and are now making $3,333

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J.R.

I was thinking of doing that $10 recurring.. it could be huge!

SLAiN787

Nice!

Mr Pheer

you're not seeing the big picture

those $10 rebills will last longer, in time he is making more money on the same traffic

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Stewie

Nice. What types of sites/content do you think work best for a $10 deal?

Garou

haha!!! You lose 6.6 from every signup+more bandwich. Mathimatics The thing is in rebills. What is Your retention now?

Snake Doctor

Your trials were already $7 or $8 so jumping to $10 wasn't that big of a thing....but seeing what kind of long term retention you can get with $10 a month will be interesting.

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the indigo

This is just plain stupid.

Yes retention is longer because pretty much no site offer these yet... with the quality.

Once all sites will offers $10 monthly members, people will leech and move on the other $10 paysite so the rebills will be pretty much the same.

Bottom line is $39.95 is too high and $10 is too low. Stick to 24.95

stocktrader23

I love watching people do something good then taking every step to insure that it is blown so far out of the water it doesn't work good anymore.


Bravo!

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GonePhishing

I've never tried them at that price, but I imagine I will at some point.

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TheJimmy

amazing isn't it?


you can generally witness this at least once a week if you watch the board enough...

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Digipimp

It's no big deal at this rate we're only 6 months away from all the big sponsors talking shit about their big new annoucement for Internext $5 site, can you believe more people sign up! Well no shit.

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You obviously haven't seen the domains I reg'd.

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Digipimp

Additionally I would think if a surfer is willing to sign up at $30 there's no doubt they are willing to rebill provided you are offering what you said you were offering and making sure you update regularly. Why would retention be so much better at $10, maybe slightly better but over time it will even out. People aren't buying at $10 because you've just presented them something so great they have to get their cards out, half of them are buying because it's cheap and they can cancel in a month if it sucks.

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J.R.

We offer all the same content as many other members
rebilling at 29.95 and 39.95

I think 10.00 will prove to offer longer retention.

Hell, a porno mag in a store is 5 to 8 each.

stocktrader23

And pay per view porn is $8 for a couple hours. People can pay for what they want. This is the slowest industry I have ever seen to realize that.

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BVF

Stick to $19.95. Not to high, not too low, it's under twenty bucks.

Nice, safe, and middle of the road.

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J.R.

I did try that, 1 week at 10 per month and the 19.95
and the 10 joins still had more sales and retention..

weird shit..

Adulter

hmmmmmmm......... good info, thanks.....

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stocktrader23

Congrats, you're going to take the info and try it yourself. Did you have to bumb the thread so everyone else would as well?

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Trent Edison

I hardly believe this bullshit. Mathematics are against it.

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Calvinguy

How can you be surpriced with all that free porn. My most expensive site cost 22.95 a month and is doing great

biskoppen

What will happen the day all sites charges $10 a month and members starts to rebill like they did at $29.95 - profit will be lost, businesses will be killed..

Will it be easy to make them pay $29.95 again then ?

Maybe you're making the surfers used to something you really don't want at the moment..

Just some thoughts..

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stocktrader23

Then you'll see posts on how $5 sites retain 3 times better than $10 ones.

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goBigtime

Maybe $10 porn is a conspiracy the big guys put together to keep you from being profitable enough to compete with them

goBigtime

And then it'll be back to square one --- "I just figured out free sites retain the longest"

stocktrader23

Wrong. I pay my members for every month they stay and so far my retention is 99.999999999%.





One guy died and his wife cancelled.

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goBigtime

Damn you. I thought we agreed not to talk about the next big thing.

cluck

No no no no. See the winning formula is $10 signups and $100 rebills.

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You all are really in the dark.

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good post

Trax

its too early for 10 buck sites

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Good point......but its hard to say what the future brings

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strobi

right on, and people WILL pay for what they want. Even if the price is a bit too high.

stocktrader23

I learned this when I was 5 or 6 and have been reminded of it 1000 times over the years. While I don't think cheap sites or bad FOR FUCKS SAKE DON'T MAKE YOUR $40 PAYSITES $10.00! Sell them on a site with less content and make them feel stupid for not spending $40 or $50 for more.

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strobi

Indeed, I see no long term gain in making the same product 4 times cheaper. What you have to do is find the highest possible price someone is willing to pay for your product, not the lowest. And you have to force them to wanting to pay that mutch. Dropping your price by 4 will indeed result in a HUGE spike in revenue but you're killing your own product. Believe me.

J.R.

Why doesn't someone plug in the info into Excel.. and see where it takes them ?


1000 people Month one at 10.00 ( 50 % retention )

VS.

250 people Month one at 29.95 ( 20 % retention )

Build on that...

The tour that I am talking about in this thread is
doing 20-30 sales everyday at 10.00.

The retention has been 60% or better for each sale.

xxxdesign-net

65% first month rebills at $30? sure!!

stocktrader23

Can you throw a column in a spreadsheet that factors in the competition you are creating? I didn't say you would make less money off the bat, I'm very sure you convert and retain much better. Well guess what, as soon as everyone catches on $10 sites will be the norm and some big "innovator" is going to come along with $5 premium sites. Once the competition picks up on that your $10 sites conversions and retention will start to drop.

How low are you willing to go and how much extra b/w, customer support, etc are you willing to provide in the name of retention? Like I said, I have some nice domains for cheap sites well under $10 a month but no way in hell I'm putting tens of thousands of $$$ in content behind the join page.

In my opinion, this will end up being worse on the industry as a whole than TGP's have been. Once you charge $10, $5, or whatever for the same content you once charged $30 or $40 for you won't be able to charge that same surfer full price again.

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