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Old 02-04-2004, 11:27 AM   #1
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Adult Friendfinder

Hey guys!

Ok here what is my problem! I have send people to Adult Friendfinder and my account was by click! I was paid $0.01 / click. I was to somthing like $130.00 but I have never receive my check. I have try to contact someone there but no reply. I have recheck my account after the email and they change my account to 35% signup! Hey whats the joke? The change my account because they don't want to pay me!! Did someone have already receive a check or email from them?

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Old 02-04-2004, 11:30 AM   #2
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So you sent 13,000 clicks at 1 cent each and earned $130.
Those clicks were worthless, so they switched you to 35% and you couldnt even earn the minimum payout with 13,000 clicks?
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Old 02-04-2004, 11:31 AM   #3
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Lesson of the day: Don't send traffic to Adultfriendfinder.
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Old 02-04-2004, 11:35 AM   #4
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Hi guys!

No I didn't send 13,000 clicks. My ratio was at 1 / 462. I know that it's not very good but I thumb click. But when they changed you to another service, they can advise you or something like that! They can reply to my email but no I have send like 5 emails in the last 15 - 20 days and no reply!

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Old 02-04-2004, 11:46 AM   #5
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wasnt there a thread just like this a few days ago?
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Old 02-04-2004, 11:48 AM   #6
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So you sent 13,000 clicks at 1 cent each and earned $130.
Those clicks were worthless, so they switched you to 35% and you couldnt even earn the minimum payout with 13,000 clicks?
yikes - that means he didn't get a single sale off 13,000 clicks.

that's BAD



wake up - AFF is on to your hitbot. Nobody pays for fake traffic.
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I had the same problem but they switched me over and I made even more money from people signing up. So stay with the program.
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i make 3X as much on per signup as pay per click
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Ok here what is my problem! I have send people to Adult Friendfinder and my account was by click! I was paid $0.01 / click. I was to somthing like $130.00 but I have never receive my check. I have try to contact someone there but no reply. I have recheck my account after the email and they change my account to 35% signup! Hey whats the joke? The change my account because they don't want to pay me!! Did someone have already receive a check or email from them?

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Your story doesnt make sense. 1 cent per click and $130 = 13,000 clicks. At 1/462 like you say, thats 28 sales. You are lying about something. Or you should change your name to suckatmath.
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Old 02-04-2004, 12:09 PM   #12
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i make 3X as much on per signup as pay per click
3X is a lot.

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Old 02-04-2004, 12:11 PM   #13
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Old 02-04-2004, 12:36 PM   #14
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Your story doesnt make sense. 1 cent per click and $130 = 13,000 clicks. At 1/462 like you say, thats 28 sales. You are lying about something. Or you should change your name to suckatmath.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bigmath
[B]Hi guys!

They can reply to my email but no I have send like 5 emails in the last 15 - 20 days and no reply!


I highly believe this to be untrue as I have three assistants making sure all emails are answered asap.

Please contact me directly via ICQ - 160629880 so that I can provide you with a log of all the emails you've sent and all responses.

Regarding your traffic, it's clearly stated on our Terms and Agreement, that we will retroactively convert your account if you aren't meeting our ratios. It's obvious in this case that you didn't. If you'd like to further discuss, contact me via ICQ and I will be more than happy to go through the terms and agreements with you and give you ideas as to how you can increase your conversions.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bigmath
[B]Hi guys!

They can reply to my email but no I have send like 5 emails in the last 15 - 20 days and no reply!

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I highly believe this to be untrue as I have three assistants making sure all emails are answered asap.

Please contact me directly via ICQ - 160629880 so that I can provide you with a log of all the emails you've sent and all responses.

Regarding your traffic, it's clearly stated on our Terms and Agreement, that we will retroactively convert your account if you aren't meeting our ratios. It's obvious in this case that you didn't. If you'd like to further discuss, contact me via ICQ and I will be more than happy to go through the terms and agreements with you and give you ideas as to how you can increase your conversions.
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Regarding your traffic, it's clearly stated on our Terms and Agreement, that we will retroactively convert your account if you aren't meeting our ratios.
This bullshit of retroactively going back and changing the terms is just another way of fucking people. If someone that is doing pay per click with you converts higher than normal do you retroactively go back and change them to pay per signup? Fuck no. Besides that, why in the hell would anyone choose pay per click with you if they did meet your ratios?

Give me a fucking break.
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This bullshit of retroactively going back and changing the terms is just another way of fucking people. If someone that is doing pay per click with you converts higher than normal do you retroactively go back and change them to pay per signup? Fuck no. Besides that, why in the hell would anyone choose pay per click with you if they did meet your ratios?

Give me a fucking break.
ya - aff should pay on ALL hitbots - no matter how shitty they are

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ya - aff should pay on ALL hitbots - no matter how shitty they are

Then they should shut those people off or simply stop offering pay per click. Its called the cost of doing business.
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Then they should shut those people off or simply stop offering pay per click. Its called the cost of doing business.
they do shut them off - well first they change them to percentage and then they usually leave.


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Hi guys!

They can reply to my email but no I have send like 5 emails in the last 15 - 20 days and no reply!

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I highly believe this to be untrue as I have three assistants making sure all emails are answered asap.

Please contact me directly via ICQ - 160629880 so that I can provide you with a log of all the emails you've sent and all responses.

Regarding your traffic, it's clearly stated on our Terms and Agreement, that we will retroactively convert your account if you aren't meeting our ratios. It's obvious in this case that you didn't. If you'd like to further discuss, contact me via ICQ and I will be more than happy to go through the terms and agreements with you and give you ideas as to how you can increase your conversions.
Hi raccks.

Thanks to have post here. I have send you a request by ICQ. For the emails, I have send you different email and I have never receive any feedback. I'm sorry but check with your assistants. And it's not the first time, I have already try to contact you for a question like 2-3 month ago and no reply! I can't remember this question but it's probably to late now! I can provide you the date and hour of which the email was sent!

All the emails was sent to "[email protected]"
I have verify my sent email and I have sent 3 emails.

First one : 01/25/2004 02:04
Second one : 01/30/2004 16:58
Third one : 02/02/2004 23:33

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Wow man!! The best support I have see!! I have contact him by ICQ because she told me to contact him by ICQ, no reply and here, no reply!! Wow!!

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holy shit I thought this was the same thread from a few days ago
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I can tell you, you are much better off on the "per sign-up" plan. I have been using that option for quite some time, and have never been disappointed. And AFF is still by far the best affiliate program I have ever used.
Their terms are quite clear that if you do not maintain a sign-up ratio of I believe 1 in 24, that you will be switched to a per sign-up. So no surprise there.
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Wow man!! The best support I have see!! I have contact him by ICQ because she told me to contact him by ICQ, no reply and here, no reply!! Wow!!

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If you want details on joining our affiliate program for the #2 adult dating site on the web, contact me by ICQ at 38373031.

We don't offer pay-per-click, but we take care of our affiliates and have better conversions than AFF without question =)
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Move on, it's states they can retro-actively change you to percentage at any time, they nailed me to... I actually owe them!!!

Current Balance $-203.04

Get over it..


Hey raccks, if AFF is yours, you ever consider when you decide to switch someone to percentage to start them at $0?? I mean expecting a check for a couple hundred, then being told you OWE a couple hundred makes it hard to keep sending traffic.

If you guys would have switched me and set the current balance to 0 I personally would have kept my links up, after i was done swearing at the monitor. It's not like I was getting no sales. But seeing that I OWE money when im going into the stats seeing how much the check is going to be for is a major turnoff.
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I can tell you, you are much better off on the "per sign-up" plan. I have been using that option for quite some time, and have never been disappointed. And AFF is still by far the best affiliate program I have ever used.
Their terms are quite clear that if you do not maintain a sign-up ratio of I believe 1 in 24, that you will be switched to a per sign-up. So no surprise there.
It's ok 49. I understand that, the only thing it's that I have sent emails and have never receive reply!! This is the big prob here!

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I approved your request, but no message from you. Hit me up again. Better yet, call 650.324.2798 and have them transfer you to me.

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If you want details on joining our affiliate program for the #2 adult dating site on the web, contact me by ICQ at 38373031.

We don't offer pay-per-click, but we take care of our affiliates and have better conversions than AFF without question =)

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I like your honesty about being the #2 adult dating site, everyone knows AFF is the largest.

Funny you mention you have better conversions. Is that why affiliates always come back after testing other sponsors because they comment on how we have the best conversions?

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All the emails was sent to "[email protected]"
I have verify my sent email and I have sent 3 emails.
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UMMMM this is not even our email address. The correct address is [email protected]. Before assuming and posting all over the boards that we don't respond to you, confirm the email address is correct. Our contact information is posted everywhere.

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I have verify my sent email and I have sent 3 emails.
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UMMMM this is not even our email address. The correct address is [email protected]. Before assuming and posting all over the boards that we don't respond to you, confirm the email address is correct. Our contact information is posted everywhere.

[email protected]
Hey Raccks.

The same for you, before posting here, verify on the site what you talking about! Look this screen shot! On the Stats page, if you click on contact you receive this information! I have contact there!!




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I agree AFF is the best converting and raccks is one of the best rep available. Only scammer have a problem with AFF
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Probably it's real that Raccks is one of the best rep available, I didn't say anything about it, but before you talk about scammer, read carefully the problem!!

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The same for you, before posting here, verify on the site what you talking about! Look this screen shot! On the Stats page, if you click on contact you receive this information! I have contact there!!




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I like your honesty about being the #2 adult dating site, everyone knows AFF is the largest.

Funny you mention you have better conversions. Is that why affiliates always come back after testing other sponsors because they comment on how we have the best conversions?
I'm sure you have affiliates who say that, as we have some who left to try AFF and came back to us =)

We are #2 traffic-wise, no doubt. We haven't done much marketing besides our affiliate program, and our sites have been around since 1996.

Also a lot of affiliates testing your program and ours, might see more money in 1 month because you don't pay on renewals, you offer something like 105% up-front (if I remember correctly). Affiliates who care about long-term money will make way more with us for the same number of sign-ups, because our average member stays 4-5 months currently.
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I'm sure you have affiliates who say that, as we have some who left to try AFF and came back to us =)

We are #2 traffic-wise, no doubt. We haven't done much marketing besides our affiliate program, and our sites have been around since 1996.

Also a lot of affiliates testing your program and ours, might see more money in 1 month because you don't pay on renewals, you offer something like 105% up-front (if I remember correctly). Affiliates who care about long-term money will make way more with us for the same number of sign-ups, because our average member stays 4-5 months currently.
and what's your site?
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Great Horny Toads!

I think I've already signed up for AFF. I 'hear' great things about them and if they were crummy I'm sure they'd have gotten a beat down a lonnnnng time ago.

I'll start promoting them to see what happens.
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and what's your site?

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I am the Senior Affiliate Marketing Manager for AdultFriendfinder. 97% of our marketing is done via our program as well.


BigMatch - still haven't heard from you. Please contact me asap so that we can

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I am the Senior Affiliate Marketing Manager for AdultFriendfinder. 97% of our marketing is done via our program as well.


BigMatch - still haven't heard from you. Please contact me asap so that we can
Hi Raccks.

I have try by ICQ and your not there. Did you receive a request to add me to your contact list? I have send a post here. You didn't reply... Look the screenshot I have insert!!

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Old 02-05-2004, 09:59 PM   #45
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I'm sure you have affiliates who say that, as we have some who left to try AFF and came back to us =)

We are #2 traffic-wise, no doubt. We haven't done much marketing besides our affiliate program, and our sites have been around since 1996.

Also a lot of affiliates testing your program and ours, might see more money in 1 month because you don't pay on renewals, you offer something like 105% up-front (if I remember correctly). Affiliates who care about long-term money will make way more with us for the same number of sign-ups, because our average member stays 4-5 months currently.
WHat is the name and url of your site?
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The dating site is IwantU - http://www.iwantu.com

We are currently in the process of launching a new communication centre which will integrate webcam shows (by members, not just a plugin like AFF has), chat, IM and mailbox. From what we see in our testing, conversions and retention rates will soar with this new feature!

The affiliate program is CashRing, located at http://www.cashring.com

The site is being completely revamped, with the new version launching in about 2 months. The new version will offer items many affiliates have requested, such as sharing our DB through XML and other great features.

If you need details on any of the programs, you can reach me by ICQ at 38373031.
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since we are on the subject of dating affiliates i'd like to spam mine in here too... we have over 1 million real profiles, retention is curretnly at 8.66 months and we pay .25 cents per free profile and up to $40 per paid member and we pay weekly. If you go to any of our dating sites you can see how many ppl are currently online, it's usually around 7k-8k and our conversions rock!

We offer 5 straight and 1 gay dating sites to choose from

*Adult Love Line
*Wild Hot Dates
*Flirt 4 Dates
*Adult Dating Friends
*Singles 4 You
*Male Love Line

we also offer turn key cobranded dating sites on a rev shar on approval basis.

hit me up if you are ready to make some serious cash with us...

raquel at lovedollars dot com




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The dating site is IwantU - http://www.iwantu.com

We are currently in the process of launching a new communication centre which will integrate webcam shows (by members, not just a plugin like AFF has), chat, IM and mailbox. From what we see in our testing, conversions and retention rates will soar with this new feature!

The affiliate program is CashRing, located at http://www.cashring.com

The site is being completely revamped, with the new version launching in about 2 months. The new version will offer items many affiliates have requested, such as sharing our DB through XML and other great features.

If you need details on any of the programs, you can reach me by ICQ at 38373031.
I dont think your number 2

How did you come up with that number?
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I dont think your number 2

How did you come up with that number?
I said #2 in Adult Dating, not Dating in general....

Basically, for Adult Dating, we've been researching, comparing with our competitors for the past 7 years. We believe traffic-wise we are 2nd to AFF currently (though we've seen some sites spike up above us here and there). Member-wise and revenue-wise we also believe only AFF is larger than us, though quality/feature-wise we'd like to think we're #1 =)

If you can inform me of what other Adult Dating sites you rank above us, based on the criteria above, please do as I'd be interested in knowing who they are.
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