What Sunnydollars just "forgot" to tell me... - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Tipsy · 02-07-2004, 06:41 AM

50 traffic stealers

JamesK · 02-07-2004, 06:45 AM

Haha, like anyone is gonna read the news page.

Shitty sponsors like SD can

Trent Edison · 02-07-2004, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

I can't believe any idiot would defend it and make himself look such a fool in the first place. Nobody was 'WARNED' unless they spend 90% of their day logging into all sponsor member areas on the off chance there may be an anouncement that may hugely affect their business put up in the last 5 mintues.

Good grief.

It is your problem to login or not. There were fair notification. If you dont like their policies, do not use their galleries and stop crying.

Tipsy · 02-07-2004, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison

It is your problem to login or not. There were fair notification. If you dont like their policies, do not use their galleries and stop crying.

I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft barge pole and don't use their galleries for reasons of my own. Just wanted to point out what a complete twat you are making yourself look with nonsense posts. Are they paying you to look this stupid or does it come naturally?

Libertine · 02-07-2004, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft barge pole and don't use their galleries for reasons of my own. Just wanted to point out what a complete twat you are making yourself look with nonsense posts. Are they paying you to look this stupid or does it come naturally?

They probably turned off the shaving on his account in exchange for his support and sig on gfy

Tipsy · 02-07-2004, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

They probably turned off the shaving on his account in exchange for his support and sig on gfy

Trent Edison · 02-07-2004, 07:01 AM

I value your humor very high, but no, Im not a paid whore or a blind dicksucker or some shit like that. Im just a satisfied affiliate that dont like when a huge flow of undeserved shit is being let out on a good program.

Libertine · 02-07-2004, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison
I value your humor very high, but no, Im not a paid whore or a blind dicksucker or some shit like that. Im just a satisfied affiliate that dont like when a huge flow of undeserved shit is being let out on a good program.

Even if they are a good program, this was a big fuckup. Maybe they didn't realize it, and they probably intended no harm, but they screwed up on this one.
Everyone knows that when you make major changes, even if only for a test of a few days, you notify your webmasters. And not just with a message in the affiliate area, but by email and at least 2 weeks in advance. (or, better yet, you test it on new galleries or whatever so people won't have to edit/remove their old links)

They deserve all the flames they get for this, and hopefully it will keep them from making the same mistake twice.

Intelligence · 02-07-2004, 07:13 AM

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Originally posted by masta flash
shava shava

polish_aristocrat · 02-07-2004, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

Even if they are a good program, this was a big fuckup. Maybe they didn't realize it, and they probably intended no harm, but they screwed up on this one.
Everyone knows that when you make major changes, even if only for a test of a few days, you notify your webmasters. And not just with a message in the affiliate area, but by email and at least 2 weeks in advance. (or, better yet, you test it on new galleries or whatever so people won't have to edit/remove their old links)

They deserve all the flames they get for this, and hopefully it will keep them from making the same mistake twice.

You're probably right.
Yet it happens often that f.e some sponsors remove some sites and don't notify the affiliates.
Or like it happened with Silver Cash, they changed "Celeb Hotel" from Celeb to the Pornstar niche a few months ago....and there were many people ( not me ) sending paid traffic to that site and wondering why it suddenly stopped converting.
It's not a good behavior, but it happens even with more reliable sponsors.
I am even not sure if ARS notifies theit affiliates via email of every major change they should know in advance. They simply post in in the "news" and on their message board.

Trent Edison · 02-07-2004, 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld

It actually isn't easyfun who says that, he changed his nick before saying that.

Regardless, the mere fact that they kissed and made up doesn't make the whole thing particularly less shady. If anything, it makes it worse... if it had been simple slander, a lawsuit would have cleared their name, and there would have been no reason to make friends with the person doing the slandering.

I don't know what happened, all I know is that their past looks a bit too tainted for my tastes. This hosted gallery testing stuff without an email notification to webmasters only adds to that

Who fucking cares what was the nick? It was said by the same person and its the only thing that matters.
If you care to have all possible info about that issue Im sure you would have enough from those threads. I do care for obvious reasons, and right now being aware as much as possible what happened between them, I feel OK about Sunny. But if you want to increase your postcount and say crap all over the place, it the other case...

Marina · 02-07-2004, 07:23 AM

Amazing how there are always a few idiots who will defend lame sponsors...

Trent Edison · 02-07-2004, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

Everyone knows that when you make major changes, even if only for a test of a few days, you notify your webmasters. And not just with a message in the affiliate area, but by email and at least 2 weeks in advance. (or, better yet, you test it on new galleries or whatever so people won't have to edit/remove their old links)

I highly doubt this change is major. This was done only for hosted galleries and only for foreign traffic. Regular links werent affected. If I would be on this guy's place I wouldnt cry like a bitch about sudden changes that completely caught his ass of guard and all world against him and shit... If you care and WANT to be aware - you will be, if not, shit like that will happen to you often.

Libertine · 02-07-2004, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison

Who fucking cares what was the nick? It was said by the same person and its the only thing that matters.
If you care to have all possible info about that issue Im sure you would have enough from those threads. I do care for obvious reasons, and right now being aware as much as possible what happened between them, I feel OK about Sunny. But if you want to increase your postcount and say crap all over the place, it the other case...

I care what the nick was, since I didn't know until a few hours ago that the nicks had changed and they had solved their problem. A different nick makes it rather hard to find the outcome of the issue on GFY. Duh.

As for all the possible info, what was posted on GFY essentially comes down to "someone accused SD of having screwed him over, they threatened with legal action but didn't follow through, he continued making accusations, they talked and then kissed and made up".
Since I have no idea what solved the problem (an actual solution? legal threats? bribes? death threats? murdering easyfun and letting someone else create a nick and say he's him?), it remains shady from my point of view.

As for increasing my postcount:

would have been more efficient.

Trent Edison · 02-07-2004, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marina
Amazing how there are always a few idiots who will defend lame sponsors...

That was said by someone with TCG down in the sig?

Marina · 02-07-2004, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison

That was said by someone with TCG down in the sig?

Lick my ass Trent....

Libertine · 02-07-2004, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison

I highly doubt this change is major. This was done only for hosted galleries and only for foreign traffic. Regular links werent affected. If I would be on this guy's place I wouldnt cry like a bitch about sudden changes that completely caught his ass of guard and all world against him and shit... If you care and WANT to be aware - you will be, if not, shit like that will happen to you often.

A change for hosted galleries concerning the handling of foreign traffic isn't major? Are you fucking kidding me??

Pervypete · 02-07-2004, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

They probably turned off the shaving on his account in exchange for his support and sig on gfy

Should I smile or wipe...

Funny - Until yesterday, my stats were available at the Sunnydollars site. When checking Today, my stats were gone. Blanks and zero's all over. And NO stats from the dialers either - I surely wanted to look this section over, just to figure out how many of my surfers SD fucked untiol I removed their 351 galleries from my site.

Someone found my statement questionable, as if Sunny Dollars really is using an autodialer, loded by autodownload software.

I repeat again: YES, it was a persistant, malicious, auto downloading auto dialer of the worst kind. The kind that you must boot your Explorer to kill.

NO excuse for this outrageous practice by Sunny Dollars.

Tom, for four days, Sunnydollars and you have FUCKED over my site, and you have fucked my traffic, my revenue, my reputation, my productivity, and certainly at the same time, you have buttfucked your own credibility.

- Would I EVER again have just a fair reason to trust you with my traffic??

Will I get paid for my losses? Appx. 1500$ in lost revenue and forever lost traffic during those four days, due to your "testing period" using dialer SCAM to fuck me and my site?

This public notification of yours, at your site...
Let me remind you - it was posted at your site yesterday, a couple of hours AFTER I went public exposing your scam here at the GFY ;)

So now you're trying to escape your responsibility, from what you do , from what you are pulling, from what kind of business ethics you represent, from how many serious webmasters you're actually fucking over with this?

It's poor bastards of your kind trying to trick your hard working webmasters. You steal our traffic and fuck our business. And when you're finally exposed, you say like - "hello affiliates, no, we're not sorry, if you don't like it our way, fuck off". "We have no responsability to inform you or ask about your opinion before redirecting your traffic to a malicious dialer".

Yesterday I wanted to check my SD stats a bit closer, after discovering your scam - Tom, why did you suddenly delete my stats from SD yesterday, some 24 hours ago?

Anything else you want to tell me, apart from your previous statement abous just fucking off, if I don't like our way of making business"? I would surely like to see my stats again before I terminate my SD account. At least, you ow me 1500$. I really don't care about an excuse, I just want my lost revenue covered.

Pete

Rich · 02-07-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SunnyDollars
If you do not like just do not send us traffic anymore.

Sunny

ok

bret · 02-07-2004, 03:29 PM

I am not defending or agreeing with the practices sunny dollar used.

but i am going to say this.

Use sponsor hosted galleries and you are at the mercy of the sponsor. they have the ability to seriously fuck you over. you are as much to blame as they are. run a script on your hosted gals to make sure they are not doing anything you do not agree with.

Aquaman · 02-07-2004, 05:31 PM

SD: http://veepers.hanes.com/service/Ret...B-93801D9ED7CE

Quotealex · 02-07-2004, 05:31 PM

Time for me to put those SD galleries links in quarantine until everything is back to normal

Aquaman · 02-07-2004, 05:41 PM

bump

Freeway · 02-08-2004, 03:48 PM

Thanks for taking the time to post this pervy.

Pervypete · 02-08-2004, 05:10 PM

Ur welcome, Freeway

- I know that most you guys would only do the same for me, if the fox ever came across your hen house.

Let's call it letting your friends and neighbors know about the burglars straifing around your street at night, trying to find an open back door.

KCat · 02-08-2004, 06:08 PM

Thanks for the heads up.

Basic_man · 02-08-2004, 06:11 PM

Check out the news section.. it's written down here!

andrej_NDC · 01-24-2005, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

If you own a tgp, then most surfers are free loaders.
If 40% of your surfers are foreing, then they are not only free loaders, but their credit card get declined anyway.
Sure, when you redirect to dialers, you will maybe lose some of these foreign free loaders, but on the other hand, you will at least make some money of them. Normally you wouldn't.
But I agree that SD should announce it before and eventually make it only an option.

30% of my sales are from this "foreign" traffic. If they cant convert it, probably their sites suck.

jt420 · 01-24-2005, 05:00 PM

man this sucks because i convert quite well with SD

Kevsh · 01-24-2005, 05:01 PM

One of my sponsors has been redirecting "foreign" traffic to a sex movie site with the same b.s. They did not inform me; When I asked they admitted it but insisted it would benefit me in the long run. After 3+ months and a lot of redirected visitors I haven't made a single penny from dialer traffic. Nothing.

I recently told them not to redirect anything anymore and they obliged as
I believe that when a viewer clicks on a link it should take them where the link tells them (and where they expect to go). As soon as you blindly redirect a viewer his red flag goes up. Even if the guy is from a non-CC using country at least he got the site he expected on the click-through. (And though it may mean a lost sale he's probably more likely to visit your site/gallery again than someone redirected to auto-installs or dialers.)

Not informing your affiliates what are doing with their traffic is just wrong. Tell them and then let them make a choice. The "if you don't like it, leave" stance is more likely to make most of your affiliates walk.

fris · 01-24-2005, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyDollars

Hello,

As you see we only want to test this solution for next 3-4 days and only on non-english language traffic. Also, you get paid 50% so what's wrong with it ? If you do not like just do not send us traffic anymore.

Sunny

you have been doing this for ages. people on awi complained too.

dont say its just been 3-4 days.

BradM · 01-24-2005, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jt420

man this sucks because i convert quite well with SD

Welcome to the past!

Shoehorn! · 01-24-2005, 05:11 PM

Check the date.

Shoehorn! · 01-24-2005, 05:12 PM

By the way my conversions were shitty as hell last time I promoted SunnyDollars.

Lace · 01-24-2005, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyDollars

Before we make it as an option we need some days of testing.
If this really works for us and webmasters, we will make this as an option. We think 3-4 days is not a long time!

Sunny

You should have sent out a mailer and warned affiliates about this sudden change.

Dropping links as we speak...

Lace · 01-24-2005, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trent Edison

Uh...February 6th? Its only January 24th

NickB. · 01-24-2005, 05:24 PM

If programs use dialers, please make it a decent one that will only shows up when surfers click the dialer option from the billing page and than integrate dialer payouts in the stats.

This is a total fuck up of traffic for MGP/TGP owners.

pornguy · 01-24-2005, 05:28 PM

Looks like a nasty bit of business to me.

freeadultcontent · 01-24-2005, 05:30 PM

Why is a nearly year old thread being posted in?

Alex · 01-24-2005, 05:32 PM

Old ass thread, but i dont like dialers on anything but the join page.

FHGs are not supposed to have geo-ip redirectrs

andrej_NDC · 01-24-2005, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickbaauw

If programs use dialers, please make it a decent one that will only shows up when surfers click the dialer option from the billing page and than integrate dialer payouts in the stats.

This is a total fuck up of traffic for MGP/TGP owners.

yes, a dialer option on the join page beside the cc and other options is cool, the surfer can decide, nobody does it for him

Antonio · 01-24-2005, 05:46 PM

Are you all idiots??????

CHECK THE DATE !!!!!!!

SunnyDollars has this as an OPTION now and it's completely up to you!!!
As for the peolpe saying that they do not convert -
I'm doing 1:286 with their best converting (for my traffic) site....

foolio · 01-24-2005, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace

Uh...February 6th? Its only January 24th

how did you miss the 2004 on that pic??

Meta Ridley · 01-24-2005, 06:44 PM

hahahahahahahhaahahha

old thread. who the hell bumped this?

andrej_NDC Quote:
30% of my sales are from this "foreign" traffic. If they cant convert it, probably their sites suck.

oh yeah

andrej_NDC · 01-24-2005, 06:48 PM

some idiot on AWI bumped an old thread which had a link to this one...oh well...I have learned my lesson

BVF · 01-24-2005, 07:07 PM

fuck it...

TheMob · 01-24-2005, 07:21 PM

I think it's an option

Danny_C · 01-24-2005, 07:25 PM

Are you guys kidding me? Giving that traffic clean galleries is a waste of bandwidth. They won't buy, and they can't buy. If you don't send them to a dialer, you're just giving away money, and that's bad business. As long as domestic, English-speaking, credit card holding traffic are all given clean galleries, what's to complain about?

pxxx · 01-24-2005, 07:33 PM

I am too late for this drama.

StuartD · 01-24-2005, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace

Uh...February 6th? Its only January 24th

heh... so easily confused.

02-07-2004, 06:41 AM	#51
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	50 traffic stealers __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

02-07-2004, 06:45 AM	#52
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02-07-2004, 07:01 AM	#57
Trent Edison Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Freeport 7 Posts: 6,132	I value your humor very high, but no, Im not a paid whore or a blind dicksucker or some shit like that. Im just a satisfied affiliate that dont like when a huge flow of undeserved shit is being let out on a good program. __________________

02-07-2004, 03:29 PM	#70
bret Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: detroit Posts: 766	I am not defending or agreeing with the practices sunny dollar used. but i am going to say this. Use sponsor hosted galleries and you are at the mercy of the sponsor. they have the ability to seriously fuck you over. you are as much to blame as they are. run a script on your hosted gals to make sure they are not doing anything you do not agree with. Last edited by bret; 02-07-2004 at 03:31 PM..

02-08-2004, 05:10 PM	#75
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02-07-2004, 07:23 AM	#62
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02-07-2004, 05:41 PM	#73
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01-24-2005, 05:01 PM	#80
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	One of my sponsors has been redirecting "foreign" traffic to a sex movie site with the same b.s. They did not inform me; When I asked they admitted it but insisted it would benefit me in the long run. After 3+ months and a lot of redirected visitors I haven't made a single penny from dialer traffic. Nothing. I recently told them not to redirect anything anymore and they obliged as I believe that when a viewer clicks on a link it should take them where the link tells them (and where they expect to go). As soon as you blindly redirect a viewer his red flag goes up. Even if the guy is from a non-CC using country at least he got the site he expected on the click-through. (And though it may mean a lost sale he's probably more likely to visit your site/gallery again than someone redirected to auto-installs or dialers.) Not informing your affiliates what are doing with their traffic is just wrong. Tell them and then let them make a choice. The "if you don't like it, leave" stance is more likely to make most of your affiliates walk. Last edited by Kevsh; 01-24-2005 at 05:03 PM..

01-24-2005, 05:11 PM	#83
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01-24-2005, 05:12 PM	#84
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01-24-2005, 05:28 PM	#88
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01-24-2005, 05:32 PM	#90
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01-24-2005, 05:46 PM	#92
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	Are you all idiots?????? CHECK THE DATE !!!!!!! SunnyDollars has this as an OPTION now and it's completely up to you!!! As for the peolpe saying that they do not convert - I'm doing 1:286 with their best converting (for my traffic) site....

01-24-2005, 06:44 PM	#94
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	hahahahahahahhaahahha old thread. who the hell bumped this? andrej_NDC Quote: 30% of my sales are from this "foreign" traffic. If they cant convert it, probably their sites suck. oh yeah

01-24-2005, 06:48 PM	#95
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	some idiot on AWI bumped an old thread which had a link to this one...oh well...I have learned my lesson

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01-24-2005, 07:21 PM	#97
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01-24-2005, 07:25 PM	#98
Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	Are you guys kidding me? Giving that traffic clean galleries is a waste of bandwidth. They won't buy, and they can't buy. If you don't send them to a dialer, you're just giving away money, and that's bad business. As long as domestic, English-speaking, credit card holding traffic are all given clean galleries, what's to complain about?

01-24-2005, 07:33 PM	#99
pxxx First African GFY Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,114	I am too late for this drama.