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Old 02-05-2004, 08:43 PM   #1
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Equality of the sexes. A womans point of view...

LadyMischief linked to this this site earlier in the abuse thread. I like this girls style.

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Equality of the Sexes
Ask anyone minus a Y chromosome if she believes in equal rights for women, and you will be met with a shocked and dumbfounded stare. Seriously, how can one NOT agree that women should be treated as equally as men? By God, a woman can do anything a man can do and she'll probably do it better!

So how come a man doesn't have any legal say-so when it comes to abortion? Medically, the fetus is exactly one half his. What if it's against his religion to scrape a fetus out of a womb and toss it on the floor? Under these circumstances, why isn't the woman forced to carry the baby to term?

On the flip side, what if a man looks at himself honestly and decides that he is not financially or emotionally ready to be a Father? Maybe he hates kids. Or maybe he's 16 and would rather wait until he graduates to procreate. Can he legally force his girlfriend to have an abortion?

Of course not. It is the woman's body and therefore, the woman holds all the cards. Her body, her rights, blah, blah, blah. But after the baby is born, what happens to the MAN'S 'rights?'

He has none. For the next 18 years, he will be paying a large chunk of change to the Mother in child support, sacrificing his life and his future to allow some girl to sit at home watching talk shows, and spending every other weekend of his life with a child he never wanted.

Never mind the fact that his only birth control option is a condom...which also happens to be the least reliable form of birth control. Never mind the fact that a woman has pills, patches, shots, and emergency contraceptives available to her. Break a condom or trust a girl to swallow a pill and a man's life will change forever without his consent.

One can argue that a man consents to having a child with a woman every time he has sex with her. He is aware that there is a 0.1% chance that any method of birth control can fail, and therefore, if a child is conceived, he is 100% responsible for the consequences. One can also argue the same for a woman. But in her case, if a child is conceived, she can run with her ass on fire to a Doctor and get it scraped out. A man doesn't have that option.

So much for equal rights, huh?

Fact is, women only want equal rights if it doesn't interfere with their right to be a perpetual victim.

How many women complain, whine, bitch, and moan that the father of their child is a complete deadbeat who never takes care of his spawn? How many women drag these men to court and demand ½ of his earnings because they deserve the 'right' to be stay at home Mom's? How many women tell everyone (including the child) what a no-good piece of trash the father is and how he should rot in Hell?

Wow, one would think that if he were such a bastard, she wouldn't have spread her dimply little legs for him, huh? If he was such a loser and a deadbeat, she probably shouldn't have conceived his child! Fact is, ANYONE forced into parenthood isn't going to turn into a model parent. Instead of blaming him for his inevitable behavior, how about blaming yourself for the poor choices YOU made and the lack of character you showed in forcing YOUR choice on a man and your respective child.

Since a woman has the most options when it comes to birth control and is the ONLY one who can decide whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, she should hold the FULL responsibility of a child she gives birth to without the father's consent. If she wants the baby so damn bad, she can pay for it herself. A Father should have the 'right' to give his child up for adoption to the Mother and cut all financial and emotional obligations legally out of his life. No one should be forced into parenthood. When that happens, the only one who suffers is the child.

Fact is, woman want the right to give birth whenever they please, under whatever circumstances they desire, and they don't care whose life they ruin in the process?.even if the life they ruin is that of child. I imagine it's not good for a child to grow up knowing he's Daddy's Little Fuck Up. Especially considering that that label isn't even partially accurate. He's Mommy's Fuck Up, or he should be, if 'equal rights' really meant jack shit to the legal system when it came to parenthood.

After all, the legal system caters to single Mothers. It coddles them and repeatedly assures them that THEY were the victim when they skipped a pill, got drunk, and spread their legs, conceived a child with the town drunk or drop out, and continued the pregnancy even though the man made it clear with words and/or actions that he would not make a decent father. They were victimized and because of this, they can sit on their asses collecting child support from someone who, unlike them, did not choose to be a parent, all the while trashing men and demanding equality of the sexes.

There is no such thing as equality of the sexes. Through their actions and attitudes, single Mother's prove that women are inferior every single day.
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Old 02-05-2004, 08:48 PM   #2
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She definitely puts it in a way that removes all excuses, doesn't she?
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:08 PM   #5
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:09 PM   #6
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Interesting points, but it comes down to trust in your partner. Given the decision of birth-control you should handle those issues before there are any pregnacy concerns.

Funny she didn't mention a vascetomy which is an out-patient procedure for men.



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Old 02-05-2004, 09:12 PM   #7
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coming from a single mom WHO DOES NOT get or want child support,

I do think that the man should have a choice, it is a babys life at stake and the man should be allowed to have say in whether a baby is carried to term (in cases of consensual sex), people should be more responsible, why should a baby die because it inconviences someone that is wrong. Every mother who carries her baby to term (even if they did not want) will love it when they give birth it is just nature.
I don't think a woman should ever be forced to have an abortion because that is a horrible thing for a woman to go through and I think a lot of woman do this because they are pressured into by parents or boyfriend and then regret it later. A woman should always be allowed to choose though it is our right.
Having a baby is a wonderful experience, and only someone who has had one would truly understand that. I think some people shouldnt be allowed to have childeren (like Micheal Jackson).

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coming from a single mom WHO DOES NOT get or want child support,

I do think that the man should have a choice, it is a babys life at stake and the man should be allowed to have say in whether a baby is carried to term (in cases of consensual sex), people should be more responsible, why should a baby die because it inconviences someone that is wrong. Every mother who carries her baby to term (even if they did not want) will love it when they give birth it is just nature.
I don't think a woman should ever be forced to have an abortion because that is a horrible thing for a woman to go through and I think a lot of woman do this because they are pressured into by parents or boyfriend and then regret it later. A woman should always be allowed to choose though it is our right.
Having a baby is a wonderful experience, and only someone who has had one would truly understand that. I think some people shouldnt be allowed to have childeren (like Micheal Jackson).

I HAVE MY OWN MONEY that I earned through hard work!
Myself I'm not an abortion advocate, but I think it's the spirit of what she's saying that makes the most sense and that I agree with most. Remember dear, you are the exception, not the rule.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:15 PM   #9
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Men DO have a choice, it's called a condom and they work.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:34 PM   #10
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Her view on racism. ;)

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Pretty similar, she has interesting points but doesn't let the truth get in the way of making them.

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Ask anyone minus a Y chromosome if she believes in equal rights for women, and you will be met with a shocked and dumbfounded stare. Seriously, how can one NOT agree that women should be treated as equally as men? By God, a woman can do anything a man can do and she'll probably do it better!
Wrong - women are physically weaker than men for one example. At the same time men cannot multi-skill as well as women. I support equality of opportunity, but I also accept and believe that a male and female are different, and as such 'total' equality of outcome can not really be achieved (except for discriminating against each other in certain circumstances). Women should stop bitching, and realize that the disadvantages and advantages of being a certain sex extend to both males and females.
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Wrong - women are physically weaker than men for one example. At the same time men cannot multi-skill as well as women. I support equality of opportunity, but I also accept and believe that a male and female are different, and as such 'total' equality of outcome can not really be achieved (except for discriminating against each other in certain circumstances). Women should stop bitching, and realize that the disadvantages and advantages of being a certain sex extend to both males and females.
Uhh... didn't you read the rest of the article> That's pretty much what she says.
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Wrong - women are physically weaker than men for one example. At the same time men cannot multi-skill as well as women. I support equality of opportunity, but I also accept and believe that a male and female are different, and as such 'total' equality of outcome can not really be achieved (except for discriminating against each other in certain circumstances). Women should stop bitching, and realize that the disadvantages and advantages of being a certain sex extend to both males and females.
Thanks for reading Chief. Now go submit some galleries.
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Ok, I'm a woman and I can't really say that I agree with that. If a man is so hell bent on not having children he is more than welcome to keep wet willy in his pants.

I personally find it amazing that when people speak of children it is always about money, about child support. What about your genes walking around and needing you, not just finanically but as a male figure in their lives? I know so many men that would give up a child, abort it, rather than have to contribute to raising it.

If you don't want kids and don't want the responsibility and want risk free sex, by all means, go get snipped, problem solved.

Child support is a big deal? Oh give me a break, it is only money. There is a hell of a lot more to raising a child than money and when a woman (man for that matter too) raises a child on their own, they basically give up a good portion of their lives to raise that child. While the wayward parent is out living their lives, the caregiver is busy doing what they do...cooking, cleaning, taking care of the child...mending broken hearts. A few bucks a month in no way matches what the caregiver puts into it.

But...before I get flamed to hell in back....I have an ex who paid child support (a very minimal amount) for a couple of years and then just stopped. I did not take him to court, I did not tell his children he was an asshole, I did not prevent them from seeing each other.....and to top it off we are on speaking terms and when he is in town he is more than welcome in my home. He is a lost cause when it comes to supporting his children...never did much with his life after me and you can't exactly get blood from a stone....but he gives the kids what he can....a male figure in their lives...and the kids get the knowledge that their father does care.

Yes, there are exceptions to everything and there are woman who sit on their asses and do nothing but live off the child support...but there are far more woman working their asses off and living in poverty because they are taking responsibility for their actions. Yes, that is what it comes down to.

Do I believe in abortion? I can only answer for me..and for me that is and never was an option I would consider. Other people have to make their own decisions. Do men have a right to force a woman to abort? My way of thinking, no....might be half your child but it is ALL my body and I'll be damned if some man is going to put me at risk because he doesn't want to live up to his responsibility.....and yes..abortions like all surgery DOES have risks.
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I think people forget the article was written by a WOMAN A bitter one, perhaps, but there is an element of truth in her writing that, while not everyone will agree, doesn't negate the fact that the seeds of some truth are there. If this weren't the case, nobody would get upset about it or disagree so vehemently.
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the legal system does cater to women, and mothers in particular. my parent are going through a divorce and my dad is getting royally screwed
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