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RK 02-05-2004 08:43 PM

A mac is more expensive and you can do fewer things on it.

Switch to Linux instead; bigger market share and more software.

Probono 02-05-2004 09:49 PM

The wise people who have bad things to say about a MAC have never used OSX. OSX is built on BSD, it is Unix. Unix is far more mature, stable and secure than anything designed in Redmond.

The key is sofware. I switched about six months ago, it took about an hour to become comfortable with the MAC but some of the applications I use are only available for Windows. I run Virtual PC on my Powerbook for those few applications.

Most video software is available and superior on a MAC, not so with accounting and other business products.

I would NOT go back to Windows, I would consider Linux as it matures but for know the Mac with OSX is the best money can buy.

bhutocracy 02-05-2004 10:01 PM

macs were utter shite until osx.. now it's virtually more about what you prefer or are used to or whether you want to fork out the extra $ just to have a mac... or whether you can get the same software and games... or the fact that their keyboard shortcuts are crap... no more uber fast work doing logical moves through nav bars like alt-l-t-r.. you've got to map everything.
the other reason not to use a mac is probably being lumped in with noobie mac users and retarded hardcore macolytes :)

but besides that.. they're fine. And I wouldn't throw away a g5 laptop with finalcutpro.

AlxCds 02-05-2004 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RK
A mac is more expensive and you can do fewer things on it.

Switch to Linux instead; bigger market share and more software.

do you actually believe what you are saying here?

toddler 02-05-2004 10:13 PM

hmm... just got my 2nd powerbook this week. windows has its place,(not on the server imho), so does macos. and linux
and solaris and *bsd. I use them all. I like
my pb because I have the tools I use everyday, builtin (unix shell tools vi, perl, php, apache, sed, awk, etc ) and photoshop, painter, illustrator, quark, lightwave. A ddecent browser with safari, a decent mail app. out of the box. You can do ms office, or star or open.

then there is itunes, imovie, idvd. final cut pro, etc. Sure you can get the same types of apps on a pc, but you get a lot of extra baggage there as well. The constant barrage of security holes are a prime example why. add things like ie holes(many still unpatched), and things look even better on the mac side.

of course, you also go linux on a laptop as well. or desktop, doesn't matter. however if you are complete newbie to unix, thats probably not the best idea. Can try if you like.

I've talked, at last count, 14 people into converting from a pc to mac (powerbooks in most cases) in the last year. Every one has been VERY happy with OSX.

digifan 02-05-2004 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by masta flash
Macs are for noobs.
See above for more dumbass adult webmasters

For noobs like Quiet.. oh yes. Or Sleazydream.

lock 02-05-2004 10:16 PM

didnt know you liked to spend 3x on software/

toddler 02-05-2004 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
I have somthing agasint poeple using macs.... becasue In my opinion its detramental to the overal learning experience. I honslty don't think theres much room to grow if your only using macs. They get the job done.... but whens the last time you had to tweak your front side bus or change your memory timeings on a mac?

AND if your mac hard disk gets corrupt.... your ocmputer can get majorly fucked because of the way the file system works. ITs alo impossible to do file recovery your self on a mac (as far as I know)


90% of My traffic uses windows and IE..... so thats what I'm gonna use for everything related to site development. I want to see what the mjority of my surfers see. :2 cents:

you can indeed recover data from a mac formatted(HFS+) drive.


your other statement? You need some education on what html is, what jpg (gif,etc) files are, what standards are. And the knowledge that IE works just fine on a mac. Its EOL'd, but it works. Several other browsers(opera, moz) give you the option of sending 'msie' as the user_agent string, you may not have as many IE users as you think.

- Jesus Christ - 02-05-2004 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddler


you can indeed recover data from a mac formatted(HFS+) drive.


your other statement? You need some education on what html is, what jpg (gif,etc) files are, what standards are. And the knowledge that IE works just fine on a mac. Its EOL'd, but it works. Several other browsers(opera, moz) give you the option of sending 'msie' as the user_agent string, you may not have as many IE users as you think.

You live in a fantasy world if you think a siginificant number of porn sufers are spoofing thier user_agent string As for things looking the same in all the browsers... thats another little fantasy.


Edit: Also do you have any links to info on recovering files from a mac drive. I seriously need some good software for that.

pushpills 02-05-2004 10:32 PM

why learn how to use a mac?


you obviously haven't correctly learned how to use a pc

chowda 02-05-2004 10:32 PM

50

im getting a ibook soon

pradaboy 02-05-2004 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
You live in a fantasy world if you think a siginificant number of porn sufers are spoofing thier user_agent string As for things looking the same in all the browsers... thats another little fantasy.


Edit: Also do you have any links to info on recovering files from a mac drive. I seriously need some good software for that.

you're full of shit retard :321GFY

Spunky 02-05-2004 10:33 PM

:glugglug Lol..switching to mac

- Jesus Christ - 02-05-2004 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pradaboy


you're full of shit retard :321GFY

Great argument. :1orglaugh


Walk through.

tranza 02-05-2004 10:55 PM

Where's Henrique??

toddler 02-05-2004 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
You live in a fantasy world if you think a siginificant number of porn sufers are spoofing thier user_agent string As for things looking the same in all the browsers... thats another little fantasy.


Edit: Also do you have any links to info on recovering files from a mac drive. I seriously need some good software for that.

Did I say either of those things? No.

As for your misconceptions on technical matters, I'm having an even harder time taking you seriously since you seem to not be able to use a search engine either.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search

- Jesus Christ - 02-05-2004 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddler


Did I say either of those things? No.

As for your misconceptions on technical matters, I'm having an even harder time taking you seriously since you seem to not be able to use a search engine either.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search

Yeay... your a better cocky smartass than me. I will never support mac, no matter how much it SHIFTS over to being like a PC (wich is all the "advances" in mac systems have been)

AS for your misconceptions on how there are BENEFEITS to using a mac, you must not have the slightest clue of how to build/maintain a PC system.

When it comes to the core componets theres little to NO competition and that = higher prices.

I don't know about your stats but across all my servers I've never come across data that showed more than 5-7% mac users..... I guess these poeple have jsut never heard of apple computeres or they all would have switched by now.

The fact that people come here with thier arguments about how macs can do this now and macs can do that now..... PCs have always been able to do these things. Appple computers provide nothing more than what could be accomplished at the same (or lower) price with a properly built PC.

If all you need is video authoring or photoediting and you feel like wasting a bunch of money.... go for it. Or you could jsut go to somone who knows how to buld a PC and get a real computer.

JunkyardDog 02-05-2004 11:33 PM

My next desktop will be a Mac without question.

I hear nothing but great things and my friends that have them love them.

- Jesus Christ - 02-05-2004 11:38 PM

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2...macvspciii.htm


Quote:

Mac users will be disappointed to see that this new Dell machine, while priced $629 less than the Mac Dual G4 1.25 GHz machine, was nearly twice as fast on most of the nine benchmarks we ran.

toddler 02-05-2004 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Yeay... your a better cocky smartass than me. I will never support mac, no matter how much it SHIFTS over to being like a PC (wich is all the "advances" in mac systems have been)

AS for your misconceptions on how there are BENEFEITS to using a mac, you must not have the slightest clue of how to build/maintain a PC system.

When it comes to the core componets theres little to NO competition and that = higher prices.

I don't know about your stats but across all my servers I've never come across data that showed more than 5-7% mac users..... I guess these poeple have jsut never heard of apple computeres or they all would have switched by now.

The fact that people come here with thier arguments about how macs can do this now and macs can do that now..... PCs have always been able to do these things. Appple computers provide nothing more than what could be accomplished at the same (or lower) price with a properly built PC.

If all you need is video authoring or photoediting and you feel like wasting a bunch of money.... go for it. Or you could jsut go to somone who knows how to buld a PC and get a real computer.


it is quite obvious that you cannot read and comprehend. please go reread my post. I didn't knock PC's at all. I knocked windows due to security. How in the fuck does that equate to pc hardware? you half wit wannabe tech weanie. All I've EVER said is right tool for the job, MY job. I'm not on some fucking crusade here you no talent ass clown, people use whatever they want to use. Someone asked for advice. I gave it.

You, on the other hand, have very little clue about what the fuck you are talking about, and continue to prove it.

People who want quality machines buy quality hardware. That goes for the PC and mac (and sun for that matter)


(having reread your response again, you do in fact need to reexamine histoy. Like what the first mac brought to the desktop os world. I get the impression though that in 1984 you were maybe 2 years old.)

Cory W 02-05-2004 11:48 PM

I love my Powerbook. I wouldn't go back to using a PC for my daily business for the world.

But I do have to say, GFY is the only place where a Mac / PC thread can turn into a knock down drag out.

Good Times.
:1orglaugh

toddler 02-05-2004 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2...macvspciii.htm



ah good, you figured out how to use google. Now look at the date of
the article and try again.

- Jesus Christ - 02-05-2004 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddler


ah good, you figured out how to use google. Now look at the date of
the article and try again.

no more than 5 months. I suggest you stop trying to be witty and use your elite google skills to find some actual facts on why MAC are superior to PCs.

toddler 02-06-2004 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
no more than 5 months. I suggest you stop trying to be witty and use your elite google skills to find some actual facts on why MAC are superior to PCs.

LOOK AT THE FUCKING URL IN YOUR BROWSER!

since you cannot seem to understand even that:

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com <--- host+domain

2002/11_nov <--- date of publication

/reviews/cw_macvspciii.htm <--- section and page name.

LOOK at the page info, see metadate field with 2002-11-13 in it.

Did you READ the article? I don't think you did. Otherwise you would know the G4 is not Apple's top proc any more, though it was when that article was written.

How in the fuck do you make any money in this business if you can't read?

- Jesus Christ - 02-06-2004 12:09 AM

Didnt make my money on the internet.

You have not stated one fact. All you do is make personal attacks.

Your a filthy ape turd sniffer. :2 cents:

toddler 02-06-2004 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Didnt make my money on the internet.

You have not stated one fact. All you do is make personal attacks.

Your a filthy ape turd sniffer. :2 cents:

While I admit there were some nice personal attacks there, I have stated plenty of facts.

- Jesus Christ - 02-06-2004 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddler


While I admit there were some nice personal attacks there, I have stated plenty of facts.

People from texas are stupid. :2 cents:

Rorschach 02-06-2004 12:19 AM

lol @ filthy ape turd sniffer

I'm not especially pro-Apple but I am vehemently anti M$.

toddler 02-06-2004 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
People from texas are stupid. :2 cents:
granted. not from texas, lived there a couple years ago when i registered.

- Jesus Christ - 02-06-2004 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddler


granted. not from texas, lived there a couple years ago when i registered.

I honestly dont hate macs.... This is just entertaining. :glugglug

toddler 02-06-2004 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
I honestly dont hate macs.... This is just entertaining. :glugglug
no worries. I play games on windows machines...


For the record though, if you have the slightest interest, read the G5 reviews. Not saying they're faster or better, I've no idee. I love my mac, I love my sparcs, I'm on a hate-hate relationship with my windows machines.

filthy ape turd sniffer's son!

Project-Shadow 02-06-2004 01:17 AM

I've always considered myself a pc power-user ... but I managed to get on a mac and crash it in about 20 seconds by clicking on the X button for Final Cut Pro.. I mean wtf?

Demios 02-06-2004 01:23 AM

After changing to a Mac I would never go back.
For programs that you can not find for Mac OS X you can always use 'Viritual PC' although that can be a bit slow.

bigdog 02-06-2004 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Demios
After changing to a Mac I would never go back.
For programs that you can not find for Mac OS X you can always use 'Viritual PC' although that can be a bit slow.

they need to get virturalpc out for the G5 already, so i can buy one and dump the pc completely

Sin_Boy 02-06-2004 08:10 AM

macs are great for video editing ..ie final cut pro or imovie.

everything else go PC.

:2 cents:

X37375787 02-06-2004 08:31 AM

how is a PC not easy to use? :helpme

Probono 02-06-2004 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
how is a PC not easy to use? :helpme
The daily grind on viruses, trojans and IE issues can become a bit of an irritation if your time is worth something. Add to that mix the annual delete, refirmat and reinstall to clean up the trashy remains of programs and data gone bad.

I will reaffirm Mac is a better solution as long as the software you need is available for the Mac.


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