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Old 02-04-2004, 02:22 PM   #101
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Aside from the sig spammers posting one liners in this thread just because it's their habit to post in every new thread that has ever been started, let be begin by saying this.

I HAVE been out here selling traffic, even before I built "adult-site-traffic". I have seen the shit that goes on out here, new brokers popping up every couple of days, new sites popping up from the same old scammers time after time.

It seems like every time someone does a redesign, registers their new url and a swift nic-change that they are all the latest rave.

Pat has seen it too, so has Carlos, Choker, Ravo .. I could go on... You have seen Pat and I (and others) dog these people until we uncover them and run them out. Let me ask you .. when was the last time you saw us try and bury a legitimate new producer? Competition, the right competition, serves only to make us stronger. If we smell a rat however, we're gonna be all over it.

What happens is this. Scammer gets busted. Scammer disappears for a week or 3, and "traffic brokers" are lying scamming pieces of shit.

Forget the fact that the rest of us are the same people who have been out here working beside you in this industry non-stop, when someone gets burned and a "broker" disappears, those of us that are left to do our job take the heat.

Pat and I along with other traffic producers certainly have a right, maybe even a duty to check out "new" traffic selling sites and report on the findings. I do the same thing, and I will continue to do so because when people get burned by these operations, it's us who end up taking the heat for you getting burned.

Also, when a "new" person shows up all innocent about knowing nothing about nothing, and then turns out to be someone everyone knew all along, well, if that doesn't throw red flags up all over the place, something's fucking wrong.

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He's on a virtual server. Take a few random domain names and do a whois on them. You'll see they're all registered under different names, addresses, etc.

I have a non-adult domain hosted on a cheap virtual account. there are 353 other domains hosted on that server and none are mine. I have another account on another virtual server with 700 domains on it. Again, only one is mine.

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Here is a list of domains that this 'newbie' has on his server:

www.Advantagedrugs.com
www.Advantagetraffic.com
www.Affordablecandles.com
www.Affordablenettraffic.com
www.Allnettravel.com
www.Angiescandlestore.com
www.Anytravels.com
www.Bedroomlingerie.com
www.Bestlingerieonline.com
www.Bestonlinetravel.com
www.Bhoster.com
www.Bookmytrip.net
www.Brightlightcandles.com
www.Buye-books.net
www.Candlebliss.com
www.Candledream.com
www.Candlehq.net
www.Candlelightworld.com
www.Candlesandgifts.net
www.Candlesanytime.com
www.Candlesforsolace.com
www.Candlesolutions.com
www.Candletreats.com
www.Cheap-hitz.com
www.Cheapcigs4u.com
www.Cheapsmokes-n-wine.com
www.Cheapsmokes-wine.com
www.Chooseamagazine.com
www.Cigarettecentral.net
www.Cigarettesdelivered.com
www.Cigsandwine.com
www.Cigsandwines.com
www.Cigsandwines.net
www.Cigsbroker.com
www.Cigsdirect.net
www.Coolld.com
www.Cottagecandles.net
www.Countrysidecandle.com
www.Countrysmoke.com
www.Cyberglassdepot.com
www.Cyberglassshop.com
www.Cyberpharmacyshop.com
www.Cybertraffichits.com
www.Cyberworldtravel.com
www.Dcauthentics.com
www.Dcsportslegends.com
www.Dcthrowbacks.com
www.Discretelingerie.com
www.E-booksshop.net
www.E-hosters.com
www.Ebestebooks.net
www.Ebooks-more.com
www.Ecandle.net
www.Edenparkglass.com
www.Eglasscorner.com
www.Eglassdepot.com
www.Eglasssource.com
www.Eglassworld.com
www.Ehotcandles.com
www.Ehotlingerie.com
www.Enchantmentlingerie.com
www.Encryptionwizard.com
www.Encryptpros.com
www.Esmokestore.net
www.Espysoft.com
www.Frazierrx.com
www.Friendinthebiz.net
www.Gardenofglass.com
www.Glasschoice.com
www.Gohoster.com
www.Goldmedalhosting.com
www.Goldmedalhosting.net
www.Goldmedalwebdesign.com
www.Hofcandles.com
www.Homedecorbiz.com
www.Hot-candles.com
www.Hot-lingerie.net
www.Hottravelonline.com
www.Hyperencryption.com
www.Hypersmokes.com
www.Info2succeed.com
www.Ipadpro.net
www.Killersmokes.com
www.Kniespeck.net
www.Leathernlacelingerie.net
www.Lightninglingerie.com
www.Lingerieboulevard.com
www.Lingeriehouse.net
www.Lingeriehq.com
www.Lingeriehq.net
www.Lingerietouch.com
www.Liquidpaste.com
www.Littlepixeybaskets.com
www.Lotterymonster.com
www.Malldeals.net
www.Marintravel.com
www.Misssugarsleathers.com
www.Mltraffic.com
www.Mrwebsitebiz.com
www.Mycandleshop.net
www.Mycandlestore.net
www.Mydiscountmall.net
www.Myonlinemall.net
www.Mytravelsource.net
www.Mytripplanner.com
www.Myviagrasource.com
www.Myviagrastop.com
www.Nettravels.net
www.Neverendingtraffic.com
www.Nicecandles.net
www.One-software.com
www.One-software.net
www.Onehotcandle.com
www.Onequicktrip.com
www.Onestopsmokes.com
www.Onlinediscountlingerie.com
www.Onlinelingeriestore.com
www.Onlinesportslegends.com
www.Onlinespy.net
www.Onlinethrowbacks.com
www.Optimumebooks.com
www.Outlets4all.com
www.Paylessforcigs.com
www.Paylessforsmokes.net
www.Powerpakpro.com
www.Practicalmagiclingerie.com
www.Premierwebtravel.com
www.Proipadvertiser.com
www.Redhotlingerieshop.com
www.Saveonsmokes.net
www.Savingsmall.net
www.Secondtonature.com
www.Sensationallingerie.com
www.Shopfordeals.net
www.Simplysexylingerie.com
www.Smartsmokes.com
www.Smoke4less.net
www.Smokeandwine.net
www.Smokeandwinecorner.com
www.Smokeandwineplace.com
www.Smokeandwineshop.com
www.Smokeforcheap.com
www.Smokejunction.com
www.Smokepalace.com
www.Smokersolutions.com
www.Smokes-n-more.com
www.Smokesandmore.com
www.Smokesandwines.com
www.Softwarehq.net
www.Sportslegendz.com
www.Spy-depo.com
www.Spytechware.com
www.Stripteaselingerie.com
www.Tbjerseys.net
www.Templateconnection.com
www.Theburningcandle.com
www.Thecyberviagrashop.com
www.Theglasscorner.com
www.Theglasshut.com
www.Thelingeriechest.com
www.Themedsaver.com
www.Thesmarttraveler.net
www.Thesmokeandwinestand.com
www.Thesmokestand.com
www.Throwbacklegends.com
www.Tobaccoandwinedepot.com
www.Tobaccoandwineplace.com
www.Tobaccostop.com
www.Traffic-star.com
www.Trafficeruption.com
www.Trafficzone.net
www.Ultimatetobacco.com
www.Undercoverlingerie.com
www.Uniquecandle.net
www.Valleydesignservices.com
www.Vsexclusive.com
www.Vswholesaler.com
www.Webcandlestore.com
www.Webencryptor.net
www.Webtrafficdepot.com
www.Webtrafficwarehouse.com
www.Webtravelfinder.com
www.Wowlingerie.com
www.Yourchoicelingerie.com
www.Yourtravelstop.com
www.Candlebargain.com
www.Romanticnotionslingerie.com
www.Candlelightoutlet.com
www.Greetingcards2go.com
www.Intimate-expressions.com
www.Stardustlingerie.com
www.Glasshousegifts.com
www.Lingerieoutpost.com
www.Tobaccoandwinecorner.com
www.Travelconceptsonline.com
www.Ultimatehits.net




I see a couple traffic domains in there. I thought he was just getting into this biz? As I suspected this is one of the scammers that jump around, changing aliases as he burns bridges.

The investigation continues...
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:36 PM   #106
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He's on a virtual server. Take a few random domain names and do a whois on them. You'll see they're all registered under different names, addresses, etc.

I have a non-adult domain hosted on a cheap virtual account. there are 353 other domains hosted on that server and none are mine. I have another account on another virtual server with 700 domains on it. Again, only one is mine.

Here's a couple....

Advantagedrugs.com
Advantagetraffic.com - same text and graphics as cybertraffichits.com, but the whois info is the registrars
Affordablenettraffic.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but the whois info is the registrars
Cheap-hitz.com - same text and graphics as cybertraffichits.com, but the whois info is the registrars
Cybertraffichits.com
Espysoft.com
Proipadvertiser.com
Traffic-star.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but diff whois info
Trafficeruption.com
Trafficzone.net
Valleydesignservices.com
Webtrafficdepot.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but diff whois info
Webtrafficwarehouse.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but diff whois info
Ultimatehits.net
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as stocktrader23 pointed out, these are all site templates sold on ebay.

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Here's a couple....

Advantagedrugs.com
Advantagetraffic.com - same text and graphics as cybertraffichits.com, but the whois info is the registrars
Affordablenettraffic.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but the whois info is the registrars
Cheap-hitz.com - same text and graphics as cybertraffichits.com, but the whois info is the registrars
Cybertraffichits.com
Espysoft.com
Proipadvertiser.com
Traffic-star.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but diff whois info
Trafficeruption.com
Trafficzone.net
Valleydesignservices.com
Webtrafficdepot.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but diff whois info
Webtrafficwarehouse.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but diff whois info
Ultimatehits.net
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:42 PM   #108
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psyko514, I think you missed the point of this thread altogether.

What you're talking about isn't even an issue here, now. Have you read the whole thread?
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Aside from the sig spammers posting one liners in this thread just because it's their habit to post in every new thread that has ever been started, let be begin by saying this.

I HAVE been out here selling traffic, even before I built "adult-site-traffic". I have seen the shit that goes on out here, new brokers popping up every couple of days, new sites popping up from the same old scammers time after time.

It seems like every time someone does a redesign, registers their new url and a swift nic-change that they are all the latest rave.

Pat has seen it too, so has Carlos, Choker, Ravo .. I could go on... You have seen Pat and I (and others) dog these people until we uncover them and run them out. Let me ask you .. when was the last time you saw us try and bury a legitimate new producer? Competition, the right competition, serves only to make us stronger. If we smell a rat however, we're gonna be all over it.

What happens is this. Scammer gets busted. Scammer disappears for a week or 3, and "traffic brokers" are lying scamming pieces of shit.

Forget the fact that the rest of us are the same people who have been out here working beside you in this industry non-stop, when someone gets burned and a "broker" disappears, those of us that are left to do our job take the heat.

Pat and I along with other traffic producers certainly have a right, maybe even a duty to check out "new" traffic selling sites and report on the findings. I do the same thing, and I will continue to do so because when people get burned by these operations, it's us who end up taking the heat for you getting burned.

Also, when a "new" person shows up all innocent about knowing nothing about nothing, and then turns out to be someone everyone knew all along, well, if that doesn't throw red flags up all over the place, something's fucking wrong.


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Cybertraffic, for the record, this is not just 'about me'. It's about deceptive people hiding behind an alias, pawning off useless, resold traffic. If you were not exposed now, you would just take people for what you can and then just make another name up on here.

I've seen it happen time and time again on here. It gives the legitimate traffic brokers on here a bad reputation.
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psyko514, I think you missed the point of this thread altogether.

What you're talking about isn't even an issue here, now. Have you read the whole thread?
i have read the thread. i don't know who this guy is or why he's trying to pass himself off as a newbie.

i just wanted to point out that all those domains weren't his.
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i have read the thread. i don't know who this guy is or why he's trying to pass himself off as a newbie.

If you read the thread, you would know who this is.

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If you read the thread, you would know who this is.

i know he's hybrid. but i don't know who hybrid is.
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i have read the thread. i don't know who this guy is or why he's trying to pass himself off as a newbie.

i just wanted to point out that all those domains weren't his.
That could be right.
What normal happens then someone buys a ebay reseller site is that they allso get a very cheap (right now free) hosting deal with the seller.
The ebay seller is normaly the owner of the reseller program and make he money of the resellers and therefore can give the hosting for 2-5$ per mounth.

They send traffic like this:
http://www.autohitting.com/frame.php?userid=596
Sometimes down to 1-5 sec, before next site.

Some rules for not being cheatet by one of them is:
Ask the trafficbroker to show you how the traffic is delivered
Ebay resellers, cant show you, becouse they not even know them self.
Dont let the trafficbroker tells you that he would not show you becouse of compitors. That is a bullshit excuse.
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i know he's hybrid. but i don't know who hybrid is.
And that's my fucking point right there.

I'm not "Turboface-sensitive", it did'nt occur to me to make a new post saying: "hi, i used to post here," etc. Because we all know what would happen, I would get replies like:

"And why should we care?"

or

"Who the fuck is hybrid?"

It's a waste of time and unnecessary concerning the traffic I sell.

Does this mean I'm a scammer? No. Does this mean I intend to rip people off? No.

All it means is that Turboface was wrong about who I was and what I was doing here, so he's looking for any excuse to save face. It's pathetic. Now grow the fuck up, accept that there's someone else selling the same service in "your territory", and move the fuck on.

While there may be concerns about the quality of my traffic, that's what free giveaways are for; to prove that it's good.

Just let the traffic speak for itself.
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i know all about that stuff. i came across those sites and looked into them to see what it was all about. sketchy stuff. it's kinda like this screenblaze screensaver crap.

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That could be right.
What normal happens then someone buys a ebay reseller site is that they allso get a very cheap (right now free) hosting deal with the seller.
The ebay seller is normaly the owner of the reseller program and make he money of the resellers and therefore can give the hosting for 2-5$ per mounth.

They send traffic like this:
http://www.autohitting.com/frame.php?userid=596
Sometimes down to 1-5 sec, before next site.

Some rules for not being cheatet by one of them is:
Ask the trafficbroker to show you how the traffic is delivered
Ebay resellers, cant show you, becouse they not even know them self.
Dont let the trafficbroker tells you that he would not show you becouse of compitors. That is a bullshit excuse.
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Some rules for not being cheatet by one of them is:
Ask the trafficbroker to show you how the traffic is delivered
Ebay resellers, cant show you, becouse they not even know them self.
Dont let the trafficbroker tells you that he would not show you becouse of compitors. That is a bullshit excuse.
http://www.cybertraffichits.com/info.html
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And that's my fucking point right there.

I'm not "Turboface-sensitive", it did'nt occur to me to make a new post saying: "hi, i used to post here," etc. Because we all know what would happen, I would get replies like:

"And why should we care?"

or

"Who the fuck is hybrid?"

It's a waste of time and unnecessary concerning the traffic I sell.

Does this mean I'm a scammer? No. Does this mean I intend to rip people off? No.

All it means is that Turboface was wrong about who I was and what I was doing here, so he's looking for any excuse to save face. It's pathetic. Now grow the fuck up, accept that there's someone else selling the same service in "your territory", and move the fuck on.

While there may be concerns about the quality of my traffic, that's what free giveaways are for; to prove that it's good.

Just let the traffic speak for itself.
you concealed your identity and tried to pass yourself off as a newbie. that's lame.

so how do you deliver your traffic? where does it come from?
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Also, when a "new" person shows up all innocent about knowing nothing about nothing, and then turns out to be someone everyone knew all along, well, if that doesn't throw red flags up all over the place, something's fucking wrong.

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you concealed your identity and tried to pass yourself off as a newbie. that's lame.

so how do you deliver your traffic? where does it come from?
What are you talking about? I just explained why.

and... http://www.cybertraffichits.com/info.html
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I really don't think I need to repeat myself again.

If you don't understand by now, you never will. Not because you can't, but because it makes it easier on yourself; to save face and stomp out new competition.

I've said everything I've needed to say in this thread.

I'm not a scammer.

The traffic will show what's what.

End of discussion.
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What are you talking about? I just explained why.

and... http://www.cybertraffichits.com/info.html

You just changed that page up. Earlier on today it said that you couldn't give your 'secret' away, but assured the potential customer that it was all 100% legal.

Lame.

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Old 02-04-2004, 09:08 PM   #122
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What are you talking about? I just explained why.

and... http://www.cybertraffichits.com/info.html
so all your traffic comes from expired domains? and all these expired domains get tens of thousands of hits daily?

give me some examples of some of these super duper domain names you're redirecting traffic from please.
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:08 PM   #123
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End of discussion.
You think?

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Old 02-04-2004, 09:12 PM   #124
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You just changed that page up. Earlier on today it said that you couldn't give your 'secret' away, but assured the potential customer that it was all 100% legal.

Lame.

http://www.affordablenettraffic.com/info.html

You mean like that one? (taken from one of the other template sites )
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:13 PM   #125
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http://www.affordablenettraffic.com/info.html

You mean like that one? (taken from one of the other template sites )

LMAO - ya, that's what it said before he changed it.

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Old 02-04-2004, 09:13 PM   #126
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You just changed that page up. Earlier on today it said that you couldn't give your 'secret' away, but assured the potential customer that it was all 100% legal.

Lame.

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http://www.affordablenettraffic.com/info.html

You mean like that one? (taken from one of the other template sites )

hahahaha...
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:16 PM   #127
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You just changed that page up. Earlier on today it said that you couldn't give your 'secret' away, but assured the potential customer that it was all 100% legal.

Lame.

I worked 18 fucking hours to make that site the way it is.

[sarcasm] Except I just now went in and 'switched up a page with 2 minutes' to save face on GFY. [/sarcasm]

Whatever.

Anything so you're not wrong, right Turboface?

Keep grasping at straws. Seems like it's helped to put you where you are now.
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:17 PM   #128
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Keep grasping at straws.
You call it 'grasping at straws' - I call it 'absolute ownage'.

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Old 02-04-2004, 09:19 PM   #129
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http://www.cybertraffichits.com/info.html
I could not find anything in your terms, so a buyer is allowed to use a "break out of frame" hahahahahahahahahaha, if he buys traffic from you?
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:47 PM   #130
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Old 02-04-2004, 11:17 PM   #131
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I worked 18 fucking hours to make that site the way it is.

[sarcasm] Except I just now went in and 'switched up a page with 2 minutes' to save face on GFY. [/sarcasm]

Whatever.

Anything so you're not wrong, right Turboface?

Keep grasping at straws. Seems like it's helped to put you where you are now.
Ya know? I don't know you from a pimple on the face of the earth....but I have dealt with Turboface, who's one of the good guys, in my opinion.

But, in all honesty...when someone comes online and doesn't reveal who they are, when they've had another identity...that makes me suspicious.

There are too many fakes on this Internet....too many people think they can change their name and persona and nobody will care.

They do care. And, that's the whole point.

You should have taken the 'so what? who cares?' comments when you returned as a traffic broker. It might have given you some free advertising, if nothing else and then maybe no one would care that you were once hybrid and now you're someone else.

You've just shot yourself in the foot. And, the issue isn't whether or not Turboface is proprietary....the issue is your concealing your former identity and then offering a lame excuse that no one would care..

Well, four pages later, it seems you were wrong and plenty of people care.
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