That's beside the point. Nobody cares about your old handle, true. What they should care about (for anyone with more business sense than stocktrader) is that you tried to HIDE your identity. You didn't just neglect to mention your old nick, you went out of your way to hide who you are. Saying you're new to GFY, an innocent little e-bay buyer, which is all bullshit.

Nobody tries to hide who they are unless they're perpetratin', and you got caught my friend.

I must have missed that part where Turboface is spamming his site :eek7

Exactly. Hybrid, you claimed to be new to gfy and that was a flat out lie.

Cybertraffic, for the record, this is not just 'about me'. It's about deceptive people hiding behind an alias, pawning off useless, resold traffic. If you were not exposed now, you would just take people for what you can and then just make another name up on here.

I've seen it happen time and time again on here. It gives the legitimate traffic brokers on here a bad reputation.

:2 cents:

I really did'nt think anyone would care, and that it would'nt have any bearing on starting a new business.

Was it foolish? Possibly, but my answer is to let the traffic speak for itself. I have nothing to fear.

If I did, I would still be denying the whole thing.

a) You have no clue about my business sense.
b) Where did I say anything other than the fact that you shouldn't call someone a scammer without knowing they are actually trying to scam people? Show me. Or did you spit that out of your ass to go with the rest of your rant?

WTF are you talking about? You can't deny it, you've been busted.

Busted for what, exactly? Starting a new business and assuming noone will care about my previous anonymous handle? So fucking what.

You initially thought I was some other scammer, using GFY as a base for ripping people off, it turned out it was'nt true, so now you're holding onto anything just so you can't be wrong. Hey, if that makes you happy, cool. But lay off the drama. You're just being an asshole, and everyone can see throught it. Trust me, there's enough business out there for everyone.

And why don't you respond to my other comments?

yeah I guess a guy isn't a car thief if you catch him just sitting in your car and not driving away in it. After all, he probably didn't plan on stealing your car, he was just trying it out for comfort before he went and bought one of his own!

if you get ripped off at some point in this business stocktrader, you deserve it and it would probably help you in the long run. Don't give people shit for outing suspicious characters. It's more than obvious Hybrid had a plan to scam for anyone with a hint of common sense.

You're absolutely right. I'm sure you can find many unsuspecting, hopeful webmasters to send you money - but what I am doing here is a public service. People have a right to know the truth.

Bullshit.

No comments??

Read above.

Cybertraffic, I don't think anyone would buy any traffic from someone like this. No wonder you hid the fact of who your really are.

Yeah, that was after I got ripped off. I was pissed and tired of everyone being so selfish.

Like I said, I know how it feels, so I'm not going to do it.

and

Cybertraffic, or rather Hybrid as I'm going to call you from now on, you seem to be quite the character.

It seems like you like to be the one to be pickin' fights.

The more I read about you, the more I am glad I exposed you.

:1orglaugh

Let the traffic speak for itself! If it is what Turbo says it is then he has Nothing to fear.

so why don't the people who won the traffic tell us how good it is? :thumbsup

This one is priceless: Have I become a complete asshole?

The answer is yes.

Chill Man! He won't last long if his traffic sucks.

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101?

Damn, always wanted to do that.

Aside from the sig spammers posting one liners in this thread just because it's their habit to post in every new thread that has ever been started, let be begin by saying this.

I HAVE been out here selling traffic, even before I built "adult-site-traffic". I have seen the shit that goes on out here, new brokers popping up every couple of days, new sites popping up from the same old scammers time after time.

It seems like every time someone does a redesign, registers their new url and a swift nic-change that they are all the latest rave.

Pat has seen it too, so has Carlos, Choker, Ravo .. I could go on... You have seen Pat and I (and others) dog these people until we uncover them and run them out. Let me ask you .. when was the last time you saw us try and bury a legitimate new producer? Competition, the right competition, serves only to make us stronger. If we smell a rat however, we're gonna be all over it.

What happens is this. Scammer gets busted. Scammer disappears for a week or 3, and "traffic brokers" are lying scamming pieces of shit.

Forget the fact that the rest of us are the same people who have been out here working beside you in this industry non-stop, when someone gets burned and a "broker" disappears, those of us that are left to do our job take the heat.

Pat and I along with other traffic producers certainly have a right, maybe even a duty to check out "new" traffic selling sites and report on the findings. I do the same thing, and I will continue to do so because when people get burned by these operations, it's us who end up taking the heat for you getting burned.

Also, when a "new" person shows up all innocent about knowing nothing about nothing, and then turns out to be someone everyone knew all along, well, if that doesn't throw red flags up all over the place, something's fucking wrong.

:2 cents:

He's on a virtual server. Take a few random domain names and do a whois on them. You'll see they're all registered under different names, addresses, etc.

I have a non-adult domain hosted on a cheap virtual account. there are 353 other domains hosted on that server and none are mine. I have another account on another virtual server with 700 domains on it. Again, only one is mine.

Here's a couple....

Advantagedrugs.com
Advantagetraffic.com - same text and graphics as cybertraffichits.com, but the whois info is the registrars
Affordablenettraffic.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but the whois info is the registrars
Cheap-hitz.com - same text and graphics as cybertraffichits.com, but the whois info is the registrars
Cybertraffichits.com
Espysoft.com
Proipadvertiser.com
Traffic-star.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but diff whois info
Trafficeruption.com
Trafficzone.net
Valleydesignservices.com
Webtrafficdepot.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but diff whois info
Webtrafficwarehouse.com - same template as cybertraffichits.com, but diff whois info
Ultimatehits.net

as stocktrader23 pointed out, these are all site templates sold on ebay.

psyko514, I think you missed the point of this thread altogether.

What you're talking about isn't even an issue here, now. Have you read the whole thread?

Well spoken!!!!!!:thumbsup

i have read the thread. i don't know who this guy is or why he's trying to pass himself off as a newbie.

i just wanted to point out that all those domains weren't his.

If you read the thread, you would know who this is.

:1orglaugh

i know he's hybrid. but i don't know who hybrid is.

That could be right.
What normal happens then someone buys a ebay reseller site is that they allso get a very cheap (right now free) hosting deal with the seller.
The ebay seller is normaly the owner of the reseller program and make he money of the resellers and therefore can give the hosting for 2-5$ per mounth.

They send traffic like this:
http://www.autohitting.com/frame.php?userid=596
Sometimes down to 1-5 sec, before next site.

Some rules for not being cheatet by one of them is:
Ask the trafficbroker to show you how the traffic is delivered
Ebay resellers, cant show you, becouse they not even know them self.
Dont let the trafficbroker tells you that he would not show you becouse of compitors. That is a bullshit excuse.

And that's my fucking point right there.

I'm not "Turboface-sensitive", it did'nt occur to me to make a new post saying: "hi, i used to post here," etc. Because we all know what would happen, I would get replies like:

"And why should we care?"

or

"Who the fuck is hybrid?"

It's a waste of time and unnecessary concerning the traffic I sell.

Does this mean I'm a scammer? No. Does this mean I intend to rip people off? No.

All it means is that Turboface was wrong about who I was and what I was doing here, so he's looking for any excuse to save face. It's pathetic. Now grow the fuck up, accept that there's someone else selling the same service in "your territory", and move the fuck on.

While there may be concerns about the quality of my traffic, that's what free giveaways are for; to prove that it's good.

Just let the traffic speak for itself.

i know all about that stuff. i came across those sites and looked into them to see what it was all about. sketchy stuff. it's kinda like this screenblaze screensaver crap.

you concealed your identity and tried to pass yourself off as a newbie. that's lame.

so how do you deliver your traffic? where does it come from?

:thumbsup

What are you talking about? I just explained why.

and... http://www.cybertraffichits.com/info.html

I really don't think I need to repeat myself again.

If you don't understand by now, you never will. Not because you can't, but because it makes it easier on yourself; to save face and stomp out new competition.

I've said everything I've needed to say in this thread.

I'm not a scammer.

The traffic will show what's what.

End of discussion.