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wdsguy · 02-04-2004, 10:15 AM

Whats your ratio for them??

mine is 1:4389.0

:-(

wdsguy · 02-04-2004, 10:29 AM

Ross · 02-04-2004, 10:30 AM

Is this the same site I think it is? The one from the Dickmansdesign team?

Damn that site is one of the best designs I have ever seen. I love it. Your traffic must suck dude coz that thing must convert good!

wdsguy · 02-04-2004, 10:55 AM

good design doesn't always equal good conversions.

I'm sending tgp and link list traffic

aflex · 02-04-2004, 11:01 AM

wds how did you know me?

Ross · 02-04-2004, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy
good design doesn't always equal good conversions.

I'm sending tgp and link list traffic

Thats true but this site fucking rocks. I'd maybe try and change your method of advertising dude.

Theo · 02-04-2004, 11:06 AM

how do you send traffic?

Dveron · 02-04-2004, 11:13 AM

Design is pretty good, 2nd page is way too busy though imho and the content used on the tour isn't all that great, looks poorly shot.

Bruno · 02-04-2004, 11:36 AM

Hello there wdsguy, how are you?

I´m looking into the CCBill admin right now, and I did find a few affiliates with horrible ratios, as of course ALL PROGRAMS have.

What I can say about this situation is that if I look at my stats and consider as our actual ratios the affiliates that send us 80% of our sales volume, our program has a ratio of 1:603. HONESTLY. I just calculated that, a minute ago, right after I read your post.

Why do I consider this as the actual ratio and not the ratio that ccbill shows, with the average of all affiliates?

Because we have around 1,5% of our affiliates with completely out of the pattern ratios: One has 0:13000. One has made only one sale with 11000 hits. One made 1 sale on 8950 hits. One has made 4 sales with a 1:4400 ratio, one has 1 sale on a 1:4439 ratio and one sent 4084 clicks with no sales at all.

My guess (I´m pretty sure actually) is that you are one of those guys. (Whats your affiliate ID BTW?)

What can have happened?

1) You got listed at some place like The Hun and received a shitload of "not-so-good for teen sites" clicks. It´s not hard to figure out The Hun type of traffic is not your favorite type of traffic for a site like 18Honeys.

2) Your traffic sources are really bad. (We can give you a list of around 100 teen TGPs that will help you a lot to promote teen sites efficiently).

3) Plain and simple: It may be bad luck.

As Ross said, Its a Dickmans Design site. And here we don´t care only about beauty. We care about Return on Investment for our clients and conversions for their affiliates. With a paysite we run, it wouldnt be different.

18Honeys IS a KICKASS teen paysite. I would never run anything in my life that is far from outstanding. Our team is hardworking and talented, and nothing that comes out of Dickmans will be low quality. Ever. I promiss that to anyone reading this.

So, what can we do about your situation?

Contact us with your Affiliate ID. To all people that have ratios out of the pattern, we have sent emails or iCQ messages to offer help. Not everyone replies though. We want everyone to do well after all. And I want to help YOU too to get better ratios.

Thanks for your time reading, and next time, please don´t hesitate on contacting us. We have contact info (email + icq + msn) of three people (me, Milena and Thiago), and we do reply to everyone that contacts us. No needs for Drama.

Take care and kind Regards,

Bruno Dickman

xfalmp · 02-04-2004, 11:37 AM

You may want to try their 2nd tour. It has an amateur look and may convert better with your traffic.

matuloo · 02-04-2004, 11:40 AM

I am doing quite fine with them, 1:456 in january and rebills are not bad also :-)

You must be doing something wrong.

sherbert · 02-04-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy
Whats your ratio for them??

mine is 1:4389.0

:-(

Probably because a membership costs $35 recurring.

CumSensei · 02-04-2004, 12:14 PM

Well I do not promote this site but I know that Brunos work is always flawless so I guess it´s the way you promote it.

Every site has it´s own style of promotion that works.

Try and talk to bruno and explain how you promote it and maby he can give you some pointers?

Might help.

diesel · 02-04-2004, 12:30 PM

I am testing this site for a week or so ..
So far it looks very good here .. like 1:300 ..
Cant say much about rebills but most of them are still active...

Dont say that content is bad lol .. Those babies are top notch!

justsexxx · 02-04-2004, 03:24 PM

Strange, in my active join sending I did around 1:250, now(since I'm in archives and such) and don't send much traffic because I was busy with other projects the ratio decreased a little...

Will send traffic soon again to them,and I'm sure it will do nice again :-)

Maybe you promoted them on the wrong way, which can happen. You also might consider their amateur style tour...

Andre

wdsguy · 02-04-2004, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aflex
wds how did you know me?

I use to be on old tnt net when it held rns for awhile. always saw u in there. Its funny that I see all these efnet ppl in porn now.

wdsguy · 02-04-2004, 07:29 PM

Thankx for all the input, I'll change my advertising a bit and see if that helps.

Bruno I'll hit u guys up :-)

Bruno · 02-05-2004, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy
Thankx for all the input, I'll change my advertising a bit and see if that helps.

Bruno I'll hit u guys up :-)

Please do buddy! It will be a pleasure to help!

To everyone that posted positive feedback, thank you!

Take care and kind regards,

Bruno Dickman

Trax · 02-05-2004, 04:20 AM

i can only say good things about bruno
know him for years
his designs kick ass

post your traffic sources here
where are you sending traffic from

this will solve this "problem"

02-04-2004, 10:15 AM	#1
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	18Honeys Ratios Whats your ratio for them?? mine is 1:4389.0 :-(

02-04-2004, 10:29 AM	#2
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	bump

02-04-2004, 11:01 AM	#5
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02-04-2004, 11:13 AM	#8
Dveron Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,794	Design is pretty good, 2nd page is way too busy though imho and the content used on the tour isn't all that great, looks poorly shot. __________________ Adult Comics Club - Updated Bi-Daily. 60% Recurring Payouts. Exclusive Comic Content.

02-04-2004, 11:36 AM	#9
Bruno Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: São Paulo - SP - Brazil Posts: 1,241	Hello there wdsguy, how are you? I´m looking into the CCBill admin right now, and I did find a few affiliates with horrible ratios, as of course ALL PROGRAMS have. What I can say about this situation is that if I look at my stats and consider as our actual ratios the affiliates that send us 80% of our sales volume, our program has a ratio of 1:603. HONESTLY. I just calculated that, a minute ago, right after I read your post. Why do I consider this as the actual ratio and not the ratio that ccbill shows, with the average of all affiliates? Because we have around 1,5% of our affiliates with completely out of the pattern ratios: One has 0:13000. One has made only one sale with 11000 hits. One made 1 sale on 8950 hits. One has made 4 sales with a 1:4400 ratio, one has 1 sale on a 1:4439 ratio and one sent 4084 clicks with no sales at all. My guess (I´m pretty sure actually) is that you are one of those guys. (Whats your affiliate ID BTW?) What can have happened? 1) You got listed at some place like The Hun and received a shitload of "not-so-good for teen sites" clicks. It´s not hard to figure out The Hun type of traffic is not your favorite type of traffic for a site like 18Honeys. 2) Your traffic sources are really bad. (We can give you a list of around 100 teen TGPs that will help you a lot to promote teen sites efficiently). 3) Plain and simple: It may be bad luck. As Ross said, Its a Dickmans Design site. And here we don´t care only about beauty. We care about Return on Investment for our clients and conversions for their affiliates. With a paysite we run, it wouldnt be different. 18Honeys IS a KICKASS teen paysite. I would never run anything in my life that is far from outstanding. Our team is hardworking and talented, and nothing that comes out of Dickmans will be low quality. Ever. I promiss that to anyone reading this. So, what can we do about your situation? Contact us with your Affiliate ID. To all people that have ratios out of the pattern, we have sent emails or iCQ messages to offer help. Not everyone replies though. We want everyone to do well after all. And I want to help YOU too to get better ratios. Thanks for your time reading, and next time, please don´t hesitate on contacting us. We have contact info (email + icq + msn) of three people (me, Milena and Thiago), and we do reply to everyone that contacts us. No needs for Drama. Take care and kind Regards, Bruno Dickman __________________ work hard. play hard. http://www.dickmansdesign.com MSN brunodickman at hotmail.com iCQ # 107450119 See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com!

02-04-2004, 10:30 AM	#3
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	Is this the same site I think it is? The one from the Dickmansdesign team? Damn that site is one of the best designs I have ever seen. I love it. Your traffic must suck dude coz that thing must convert good!

02-04-2004, 10:55 AM	#4
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	good design doesn't always equal good conversions. I'm sending tgp and link list traffic

02-04-2004, 11:06 AM	#7
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	how do you send traffic?

02-04-2004, 11:37 AM	#10
xfalmp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,474	You may want to try their 2nd tour. It has an amateur look and may convert better with your traffic.

02-04-2004, 11:40 AM	#11
matuloo Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 441	I am doing quite fine with them, 1:456 in january and rebills are not bad also :-) You must be doing something wrong.

02-04-2004, 12:14 PM	#13
CumSensei Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,986	Well I do not promote this site but I know that Brunos work is always flawless so I guess it´s the way you promote it. Every site has it´s own style of promotion that works. Try and talk to bruno and explain how you promote it and maby he can give you some pointers? Might help. __________________ CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

02-04-2004, 12:30 PM	#14
diesel Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,097	I am testing this site for a week or so .. So far it looks very good here .. like 1:300 .. Cant say much about rebills but most of them are still active... Dont say that content is bad lol .. Those babies are top notch!

02-04-2004, 03:24 PM	#15
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Strange, in my active join sending I did around 1:250, now(since I'm in archives and such) and don't send much traffic because I was busy with other projects the ratio decreased a little... Will send traffic soon again to them,and I'm sure it will do nice again :-) Maybe you promoted them on the wrong way, which can happen. You also might consider their amateur style tour... Andre

02-04-2004, 07:29 PM	#17
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	Thankx for all the input, I'll change my advertising a bit and see if that helps. Bruno I'll hit u guys up :-)

02-05-2004, 04:20 AM	#19
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	i can only say good things about bruno know him for years his designs kick ass post your traffic sources here where are you sending traffic from this will solve this "problem"