Windows 2003 Server IIS 6.0 ASP Pages Slow to load - any ideas - GoFuckYourself.com

NewbieNudes · 02-03-2004, 05:07 AM

Hi,

FIRSTLY - before everyone says "why run windows server" the answer is cause we "inherited" the engine of our site and have not had the time to do a PHP / MY SQL version.. yet.

I'd like to know if anyone has experienced this problem. We recently migrated from W2K server to 2003 server. At the same time our boxes were upgraded from p4 2.4ghz 1GB ram IDE to Dual Xeon 2.4ghz 2GB ram SCSI. So you would expect our site's performance to increase significantly. Wrong. Now it just breaks or slows to an absolute crawl VERY often when serving simple ASP pages. The DB is Sql and runs on another box so its not a DB/SQL problem.

I have read of a few others describing similar problems on IIS newsgroups. It appears that IIS 6 has some form of instability when serving boring old ASP pages.

Has anyone on this board experienced a performance loss when going to 2003 / IIS 6

KC · 02-03-2004, 05:12 AM

Sorry man..

I can't help myself....

http://www.freebsd.org/

lEricPl · 02-03-2004, 05:15 AM

There is nothing wrong with running Windows 2003. It's solid as a rock.

There should be no performance decrease...in fact, we have always seen an increase with every Windows 2000 - 2003 transition we make.

Rorschach · 02-03-2004, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by KC
Sorry man..

I can't help myself....

http://www.freebsd.org/

What he said.

com · 02-03-2004, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by lEricPl
There is nothing wrong with running Windows 2003. It's solid as a rock.

There should be no performance decrease...in fact, we have always seen an increase with every Windows 2000 - 2003 transition we make.

except the single packet IIS dos ;). windows is shit. period. always has been always will be. some things never change

lEricPl · 02-03-2004, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by KC
Sorry man..

I can't help myself....

http://www.freebsd.org/

Maybe you should try next time.

dotwind · 02-03-2004, 05:17 AM

I administer some windows 2003 servers and there are no reasons why it should be slow unless someone messed with some of the settings.

ICQ me: 235719545 if you want some help

lEricPl · 02-03-2004, 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by com

except the single packet IIS dos ;). windows is shit. period. always has been always will be. some things never change

com proves his ignorance again folks! Let's give him a hand!

com · 02-03-2004, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by lEricPl

com proves his ignorance again folks! Let's give him a hand!

Sure thing... I need not say ANYTHING about you. The .NET Guru crap under your handle says it all. Have fun pointing and clicking ;).

EDIT: I am curious though, how what I've said proves I am ignorant.

dotwind · 02-03-2004, 05:29 AM

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Originally posted by lEricPl

com proves his ignorance again folks! Let's give him a hand!

Hey EricP I see you are into .Net I have been coding in .net since first beta hit me up if you wanna talk and exchange some ideas.

As for people that say windows is shit .. I guess you just can't afford the license for windows plus the $10k license for MS sql so you have to go with the free stuff and proove to yourself it's better.

I hear that sentence a lot here when it comes to hosting : " you get what you pay for" so how come it doesn't apply here.

lEricPl · 02-03-2004, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by com

The .NET Guru crap under your handle says it all. Have fun pointing and clicking ;).

That post just proved that you have no earthly idea of the power of .NET...or what it even is.

com · 02-03-2004, 05:38 AM

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Originally posted by dotwind

Hey EricP I see you are into .Net I have been coding in .net since first beta hit me up if you wanna talk and exchange some ideas.

As for people that say windows is shit .. I guess you just can't afford the license for windows plus the $10k license for MS sql so you have to go with the free stuff and proove to yourself it's better.

I hear that sentence a lot here when it comes to hosting : " you get what you pay for" so how come it doesn't apply here.

Well if you make business moves based on anecdotes your mom fed you from childhood then, well, i really have nothing to say to that either! Now if you look at network throughput, stability, functionality, and an auditable source tree (thus security), and still want to go with windows... have fun! Although really don't feel a need to justify myself you clowns. Stick to porn, and leave the technical details to those who know what they're doing. Lastly, If you honestly beleive that wasting $10,000 on monolithic software makes you a better man, go buy a ferrari. (no offense steve lightspeed). Have fun with C# and OOP fag... I'm still writing object oriented code with macros in ANSI-C.

com · 02-03-2004, 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by lEricPl

That post just proved that you have no earthly idea of the power of .NET...or what it even is.

Or perhaps I know it's destructive power to data integrity. If you truly feel like burning money on a corperate OS, go buy a few sunblades and Solaris. Go on educate yourself!

lEricPl · 02-03-2004, 05:41 AM

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Originally posted by com

Or perhaps I know it's destructive power to data integrity. If you truly feel like burning money on a corperate OS, go buy a few sunblades and Solaris. Go on educate yourself!

My god man...you just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper.

com · 02-03-2004, 05:43 AM

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Originally posted by lEricPl

My god man...you just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper.

Hahaha well if thats the case, build me a casket. Loosen up a little bit. And tell me one reason why windows is better then ANY other os out there.

NewbieNudes · 02-03-2004, 05:50 AM

Stay on topic guys!! We don't have the time to convert over to Linux yet!!!!!

Don't just bitch about windows - let the windows guys help me out by answering here without getting flamed?

lEricPl · 02-03-2004, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by com

Hahaha well if thats the case, build me a casket. Loosen up a little bit. And tell me one reason why windows is better then ANY other os out there.

It's all preference com...but you sure don't see me saying Linux is shit.

If you don't like Windows...don't use it.

lEricPl · 02-03-2004, 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by janos
Stay on topic guys!! We don't have the time to convert over to Linux yet!!!!!

Don't just bitch about windows - let the windows guys help me out by answering here without getting flamed?

janos,

If you want me to contact you...please leave contact details here.

dotwind · 02-03-2004, 05:54 AM

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Originally posted by com

Well if you make business moves based on anecdotes your mom fed you from childhood then, well, i really have nothing to say to that either! Now if you look at network throughput, stability, functionality, and an auditable source tree (thus security), and still want to go with windows... have fun! Although really don't feel a need to justify myself you clowns. Stick to porn, and leave the technical details to those who know what they're doing. Lastly, If you honestly beleive that wasting $10,000 on monolithic software makes you a better man, go buy a ferrari. (no offense steve lightspeed). Have fun with C# and OOP fag... I'm still writing object oriented code with macros in ANSI-C.

Man why do you have to be so unprofessional. did I call you fag, did I bring your mom into the table no. you are just showing you are immature .. and for your referrence I was coding in C when I was 12 . anyway, just remember you are representing a company on that board and you are giving them a bad name by being unprofessional

peace out bro.. no need to fight we are just discussing here

explicite · 02-03-2004, 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by dotwind

Man why do you have to be so unprofessional. did I call you fag, did I bring your mom into the table no. you are just showing you are immature .. and for your referrence I was coding in C when I was 12 . anyway, just remember you are representing a company on that board and you are giving them a bad name by being unprofessional

peace out bro.. no need to fight we are just discussing here

HEAR HEAR !

com · 02-03-2004, 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by dotwind

Man why do you have to be so unprofessional. did I call you fag, did I bring your mom into the table no. you are just showing you are immature .. and for your referrence I was coding in C when I was 12 . anyway, just remember you are representing a company on that board and you are giving them a bad name by being unprofessional

peace out bro.. no need to fight we are just discussing here

Im sorry I did misquote you, that was aimed at lEricPl who directly attacked me. ;)

Edit: your statement about not being able to afford a measly $10k lisence did irritate me though ;) Also, my personal opinions are no representation of the company I may work for, and are solely my own, and always will be. Keep in mind, you can't judge someones intent over what they write online. I was in a good mood untill lEricPl decided to make it personal by calling me ignorant!

com · 02-03-2004, 07:24 AM

Ohhh and Janos, sorry for hi-jacking your thread! IIS 6 has a few unreleased vulnerabilities that may explain your problems. Also you may want to upgrade your ASP engine as well if you haven't allready done so. Lastly, do you have any other applications querying the sql server in question that do not experience such latency?

pornoshare · 02-03-2004, 07:35 AM

Why cant we all just get along

com · 02-03-2004, 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by pornoshare
Why cant we all just get along

because then we'd destroy all our weapons in a surge of love... and the first alien life to come along would enslave us all, just like that episode of simpsons.

lEricPl · 02-03-2004, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by com
Ohhh and Janos, sorry for hi-jacking your thread! IIS 6 has a few unreleased vulnerabilities that may explain your problems. Also you may want to upgrade your ASP engine as well if you haven't allready done so. Lastly, do you have any other applications querying the sql server in question that do not experience such latency?

Man oh man...

Tell us about these 'vulnerabilities' that cause ASP to serve pages slowly and tell us how we can all upgrade our 'ASP engine'.

lEricPl · 02-03-2004, 08:11 AM

1. Blame it on IIS6 'vulnerabilities'
2. Tell him to upgrade the 'asp engine'

You have no clue what you are talking about com.

dotwind · 02-03-2004, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by com

Im sorry I did misquote you, that was aimed at lEricPl who directly attacked me. ;)

Edit: your statement about not being able to afford a measly $10k lisence did irritate me though ;) Also, my personal opinions are no representation of the company I may work for, and are solely my own, and always will be. Keep in mind, you can't judge someones intent over what they write online. I was in a good mood untill lEricPl decided to make it personal by calling me ignorant!

ok cool, I have never said you can't afford it. that was just a comment not directed to anyone.

but the same way you are bashing windows 2003 there are a lot of vulnerabilities in FreeBsd , Red Hat etc. any system that is not configured properly is open to attacks. the problem with windows servers is they are used widely and most people think they can do it themselves and end up being hacked. as for IIS same goes for apache some really bad bugs on it.

as for you are solely responsible for what you say not your company think if Eric or I would want a server would we come to you ... no .. it's just that simple a lot of people here run their mouth but don't think twice about it. I have nothing against you put you prooved to be unprofessional that's all.

02-03-2004, 05:07 AM	#1
NewbieNudes Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 939	Windows 2003 Server IIS 6.0 ASP Pages Slow to load - any ideas Hi, FIRSTLY - before everyone says "why run windows server" the answer is cause we "inherited" the engine of our site and have not had the time to do a PHP / MY SQL version.. yet. I'd like to know if anyone has experienced this problem. We recently migrated from W2K server to 2003 server. At the same time our boxes were upgraded from p4 2.4ghz 1GB ram IDE to Dual Xeon 2.4ghz 2GB ram SCSI. So you would expect our site's performance to increase significantly. Wrong. Now it just breaks or slows to an absolute crawl VERY often when serving simple ASP pages. The DB is Sql and runs on another box so its not a DB/SQL problem. I have read of a few others describing similar problems on IIS newsgroups. It appears that IIS 6 has some form of instability when serving boring old ASP pages. Has anyone on this board experienced a performance loss when going to 2003 / IIS 6 __________________ \| Click Here to join our unique high converting program \| Add yourself for free traffic! ICQ: 279 738 569 \| Skype: NewbieNudes \| Email: affiliates at newbienudes dot com

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com Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,541	Ohhh and Janos, sorry for hi-jacking your thread! IIS 6 has a few unreleased vulnerabilities that may explain your problems. Also you may want to upgrade your ASP engine as well if you haven't allready done so. Lastly, do you have any other applications querying the sql server in question that do not experience such latency? __________________ Real. Professional. Hosting. .:Expect Nothing Less:. 320-078-843 :: www.realprohosting.com :: [email protected]

02-03-2004, 05:15 AM	#3
lEricPl Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,062	There is nothing wrong with running Windows 2003. It's solid as a rock. There should be no performance decrease...in fact, we have always seen an increase with every Windows 2000 - 2003 transition we make.

02-03-2004, 07:35 AM	#23
pornoshare Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 237	Why cant we all just get along

02-03-2004, 08:11 AM	#26
lEricPl Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: FL Posts: 1,062	1. Blame it on IIS6 'vulnerabilities' 2. Tell him to upgrade the 'asp engine' You have no clue what you are talking about com.