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BradShaw 02-02-2004 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by dig420


Sleazy, you would be VERY surprised at how many of the people you think are ballers make less than this. There is a lot of posing on the boards but some of the biggest names out there aren't making as much as you think.

For a TGP guy to speculate about the paysite biz is funny. Sleazy, if you understood the paysite biz, and the margins involved, you would run paysites, not tgp's. Show me a TGP guy who has made major bling. I mean major.

Dig, I agree with you.

dropped9 02-02-2004 10:45 PM

I wish I didnt have my head up my ass in 97 & early 98...

BradShaw 02-02-2004 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


it's always the biggest showoffs who arn't really the largest players duuuuu

you'd probally be surprised at what some of the low key people I know actually make.


You are fucking hilarious. So you are their CPA? If people tell you they make $10 million, it means they make $1million. Call you MR. Gullible.

Only 1 person knows what I make, my CPA.

KRL 02-02-2004 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
His ego and his airbrushed shirts. 2 things that come to mind when I think of WF.

$20million before or after the divorce?

Ouch. Low blow Brad.

Divorce is always a painful experience. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I endured 2 of them.

gleem 02-02-2004 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


you really don't know or even have a clue as to what your talking about do you?

You got me, please show me a site that nets millions of year without a staff.

SleazyDream 02-02-2004 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw


For a TGP guy to speculate about the paysite biz is funny. Sleazy, if you understood the paysite biz, and the margins involved, you would run paysites, not tgp's. Show me a TGP guy who has made major bling. I mean major.

Dig, I agree with you.

who's speculatiing?

you're assuming you really know all the businesses I own? Foolish assumption. but that's Brad....

BradShaw 02-02-2004 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by KRL


Ouch. Low blow Brad.

Divorce is always a painful experience. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I endured 2 of them.


It is a joke. WF has made a fortune, I bet if he says $20mil, it is much more than that. Ask sleazy, he seems to know who makes what in this biz.

SleazyDream 02-02-2004 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by gleem


You got me, please show me a site that nets millions of year without a staff.

many - it's called contracts.
not every business has hourly paid employees.

SleazyDream 02-02-2004 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw



It is a joke. WF has made a fortune, I bet if he says $20mil, it is much more than that. Ask sleazy, he seems to know who makes what in this biz.


i love how you twist my words around - when did I ever say that?

BRISK 02-02-2004 10:52 PM

This thread should have an e-Penis advisory placed on it

BradShaw 02-02-2004 10:52 PM

Sleazy, I am sure you have business of the internet that net millions. This TGP thing is just for kicks.

gleem 02-02-2004 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


many - it's called contracts.
not every business has hourly paid employees.

pshhhaaa, this is a stupid argument. Whatever the case is we both know that running paysites and TGP's leads to ulcers and is a 11 on the stress scale, and good domain speculation is like a drive on a sunny day with a topdown compared to it.

SleazyDream 02-02-2004 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw



You are fucking hilarious. So you are their CPA? If people tell you they make $10 million, it means they make $1million. Call you MR. Gullible.

Only 1 person knows what I make, my CPA.

i base my knowledge on a little more than rhumors brad.


it's not too hard to figgure (very roughly) out who's a player and who isn't via expensis and time frame paying those expensis. And I'm not talking parties or booths either here.

Dveron 02-02-2004 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw


For a TGP guy to speculate about the paysite biz is funny. Sleazy, if you understood the paysite biz, and the margins involved, you would run paysites, not tgp's. Show me a TGP guy who has made major bling. I mean major.

Dig, I agree with you.

Sleazy has at least one paysite that I've seen on my travels.

SleazyDream 02-02-2004 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by gleem


pshhhaaa, this is a stupid argument. Whatever the case is we both know that running paysites and TGP's leads to ulcers and is a 11 on the stress scale, and good domain speculation is like a drive on a sunny day with a topdown compared to it.

till the lawsuit hits for trademark or the like.

the grass is always greener.

domain spec is a good business - no doubt - and it has it's leaders and followers. but only an idiot would think that it's all gravy.

KRL 02-02-2004 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw



It is a joke. WF has made a fortune, I bet if he says $20mil, it is much more than that. Ask sleazy, he seems to know who makes what in this biz.

I know you're only kidding Brad.

Sleazy, Rick showed me his numbers, so trust me when I tell you this Rick could buy and sell everyone on this board and I mean everyone.

SleazyDream 02-02-2004 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by KRL


I know you're only kidding Brad.

Sleazy, Rick showed me his numbers, so trust me when I tell you this Rick could buy and sell everyone on this board and I mean everyone.

please tell me that $20 million over 8 years isn't the number you're referring to, cause if it is then I just lost a LOT of respect for you.

BRISK 02-02-2004 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by KRL


I know you're only kidding Brad.

Sleazy, Rick showed me his numbers, so trust me when I tell you this Rick could buy and sell everyone on this board and I mean everyone.

I like numbers :glugglug

dig420 02-02-2004 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw



It is a joke. WF has made a fortune, I bet if he says $20mil, it is much more than that. Ask sleazy, he seems to know who makes what in this biz.

Sleazy knows all :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

dropped9 02-02-2004 11:04 PM

This thread is great. :thumbsup

KRL 02-02-2004 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


please tell me that $20 million over 8 years isn't the number you're referring to, cause if it is then I just lost a LOT of respect for you.

As a business associate of Rick, I have to respect his financial privacy, so I'm not going to post numbers.

So I'll just say no its not.

BradShaw 02-02-2004 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


please tell me that $20 million over 8 years isn't the number you're referring to, cause if it is then I just lost a LOT of respect for you.


Rick is no idiot, he knows that the IRS reads press.

KRL 02-02-2004 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by Headless
This thread is great. :thumbsup
This thread is getting stupid. Seriously stupid.

People are talking out of their ass without any factual first hand knowledge other than a couple here.

BradShaw 02-02-2004 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by dig420


Sleazy knows all :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


This is no buffet!

slavdogg 02-02-2004 11:09 PM

i dont know how Rick counted 8 years
it reality it was around 6-7 GOOD years, plus 96-97

but if you count 96 to 2004 that would be 8 years.

shepherd 02-02-2004 11:16 PM

Allot more important then the actual figures is the whole story.
There's a great philosophy behind Rick's success and he keeps duplicating it, and keep making millions with it.
Is it enough? Never enough. Like all of us there's always new stuff to learn and innovate and he knows that. You can only count on one thing and one thing only - and that is CHANGE. Rick is WELL aware of that and taking advantage of it EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY. Wether it's domains, stocks, real estate - he got it down.

SleazyDream 02-02-2004 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by KRL


As a business associate of Rick, I have to respect his financial privacy, so I'm not going to post numbers.

So I'll just say no its not.

fair enough.


i never said I doubted the man at any point - only that $20 million over $8 years wasn't really impressive in the adult biz.

dispite what all the idiots here seem to think i don't know wired guy at all or much about what he does - just based my origional comment on what was in the article.

SleazyDream 02-02-2004 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw



This is no buffet!

you seem hungry, are you eating enough these days?

gleem 02-02-2004 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


till the lawsuit hits for trademark or the like.

the grass is always greener.

domain spec is a good business - no doubt - and it has it's leaders and followers. but only an idiot would think that it's all gravy.

I do them all, and so far, domain speculating is the least stressful, albeit I haven't been sued yet, I imagine that would rock the stress meter a bit, but you an domain speculate without infringing on any trademarks.

whatever, this thread is getting stupid, I'm done.:winkwink:

slavdogg 02-02-2004 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by shepherd
Allot more important then the actual figures is the whole story.
There's a great philosophy behind Rick's success

Shep, some people get it, others just keep sucking tgp cock.

You cant expect a blind man to see the road.

SleazyDream 02-02-2004 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by slavdogg


Shep, some people get it, others just keep sucking tgp cock.

You cant expect a blind man to see the road.

putting down one method of income generation over another is really the sign of someone who isn't that bright.

czarkazm 02-02-2004 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


no doubt - most business were built on them.

I love how many of the IDIOTS in this thread think that a 3 million dollar a year revenue (20 million divided by 8 years) is a top player in the adult business. - it's more like LOW end mid range of those that have a clue.

i'm not saying the guy is stupid or anything, that is a GREAT revenue. I'm just not hugly impressed by compaision of others I know in this game. And I'm thinking net too, not gross.

It's not the 3 million in revenues which is impressive numnuts....it's the 98.5% net profit margins.....think before you open your mouth

What's more impressive 3 million in INCOME off $3.1 million, or $3 million in INCOME off $100 million in REVENUES?

dantheman 02-03-2004 07:52 AM

Great read this moring on WF. He's someone I've repected and listened too for many years. I even like a couple of his shirts :)

sleazy, those figures are a little low that I can tell you. But even with those numbers, and the small overhead that WF has makes them even more impressive.

WF could prolly buy about all of us, but then he would have to WORK :glugglug

stocktrader23 02-03-2004 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw



Rick is no idiot, he knows that the IRS reads press.

lol

stocktrader23 02-03-2004 08:04 AM

This thread fucking rocks. I'd rather own one great domain than 10 great TGP's any day.

stocktrader23 02-03-2004 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by KRL


I know you're only kidding Brad.

Sleazy, Rick showed me his numbers, so trust me when I tell you this Rick could buy and sell everyone on this board and I mean everyone.

Without a TGP?

Rankings 02-03-2004 10:37 AM

thats the kind of money im talking about

makefuckingmoney 02-03-2004 12:59 PM

oy..

SleazyDream 02-03-2004 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by czarkazm


It's not the 3 million in revenues which is impressive numnuts....it's the 98.5% net profit margins.....think before you open your mouth

What's more impressive 3 million in INCOME off $3.1 million, or $3 million in INCOME off $100 million in REVENUES?

well, if you have a clue about larger accounts then you'd know that the answer is 3 million off 100 million, as there's usually a lot more spinoffs accociated with the other 97 million that were spent.

Penrod 02-03-2004 01:17 PM

Sleazy....your math skillz are amazing:1orglaugh


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