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Old 02-02-2004, 04:58 AM   #1
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Feelings on dialers

Hi all

Was just woundering what the main feelings on dialers are from you the webmasters....

i work for www.sjbsolutions.org and we are having a lot of feed back with happy webmaster and would like to get the boards feelings ...

cheers
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Old 02-02-2004, 04:59 AM   #2
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My feelings are that you just created this thread to spam your shit
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:00 AM   #3
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My feelings are that you just created this thread to spam your shit
what he said
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:08 AM   #4
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My feelings are that you just created this thread to spam your shit
I second that!

Usually dialers are a good solution for payment, but they are just used to make a fast some bucks and lose the trust of the surfer.

So it sucks
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:09 AM   #5
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i think if the surfer knows theyre going to be using a dialer its ok
i hate those auto dialer things though
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:13 AM   #6
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Even though I think this was a pretty lame attempt to spam your site I will still comment.

I think dialers can be a great source of income if used the right ways. We have a good amount of clients that use dialers and make good money. The key is to have quality content, attractive dialers, and loads of Geo IP traffic.
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:47 AM   #7
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thanks for your post guys it is all good to know wheter you like them or not..

any info is good if used right

Cheers
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:51 AM   #8
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while on the subject of diallers any one use Goodthinxx ?
we are looking at using them on some of our sites.
Any imput or thoughts welcome.

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Old 02-02-2004, 05:53 AM   #9
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Autodialers that have average 0.10 minutes per user sucks but real dialers with great content that have averge 25 minutes per user is great!

I know!
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:53 AM   #10
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what he said
Thanks for the reply but yes some of my post is spam but more of to be known on the board but more importantly is to know the true feelings out there and to work on these to make things better for the future of the business..

Cheers thou
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:32 AM   #11
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well i can see it is a hard subject to talk about , but thanks for all who posted ,

not helped me much but thanks to all

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Old 02-02-2004, 09:24 AM   #12
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Dialers can be a very good may for making money but if U play by the rules, which means :

- Don't use autodialers, they suck,
- Never put, "click here for FREE stuff",
- Have a great and updated member area (then u'd have good Holding Times),
- Have that member area and promo tools (sites, banners...) translated into dfferent languages,
- Work with a sponsor that's not located in some exotic places (like Uruguay, Islands...),
- Be sure that that sponsor pays in time and is reliable (like meeting ppl working for it during shows like the Internext),
- Work with a dialer sponsor that has domestic lines mainly (rate is better)...

Well, that's how we work and our webmasters are quite happy...
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:45 AM   #13
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I've never used a dialer but if I ever did I would make sure the page clearly stated that clicking the link would bill their phone.
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Old 02-03-2004, 03:59 AM   #14
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I've never used a dialer but if I ever did I would make sure the page clearly stated that clicking the link would bill their phone.

i agree tafkap and thats why are webmaster are happy too...

cheers for all yor comments
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Old 02-03-2004, 04:08 AM   #15
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Dialers are good but seems like alot shave webmaster earnings and its really hard to know weather or not you are being paid for all the traffic you send...are there even autodialers anymore?? I dont know of any
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Old 02-03-2004, 07:31 AM   #16
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Dialers are good but seems like alot shave webmaster earnings and its really hard to know weather or not you are being paid for all the traffic you send...are there even autodialers anymore?? I dont know of any
We provide live stats for our webmasters so they can check we don't try to shave them.

There are still autodialers but u won't make money on a long term basis with them
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Old 02-03-2004, 08:14 AM   #17
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I am thinking, dialers can be a good alternative to the cc payment option. But only, if you play it fair with your customers.
If I already get a pop-up hell of install windows and auto-dialer offers and so on only by visiting the start page of a website, then I really don't need anything more from that site. close and forget.

As said, if the site and the dialer let the visitor exactly know, what they have to expect (pricing info, uninstall of the software, NO autodial, no extremly high prices per minute or high first-minute-rates, ...) it could be a nice thing for both sides - users and webmaster.
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Old 02-03-2004, 08:24 AM   #18
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Dialers are great for when users cant use CC. Some people are happy to stay online for a good long time while the wbemasters sits and cashes in. I guess the trust just has to be there. If surfers are afraid of getting over charged they wont stay.
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Old 02-03-2004, 08:32 AM   #19
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I've sent traffic to dialers before and did alright but its not as good as free sites.

The best use of a dialer is made by redirecting UK and other traffic that dialers pay the most per min with. AND by using a popunder stating that if they don't have a credit card they can pay with a dialer and still get access.
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Old 02-03-2004, 09:45 AM   #20
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Dialers, it is great way to increase your income!
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Old 02-03-2004, 09:46 AM   #21
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I like the touch tone buttons much better than the old rotary dialers.
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Old 02-03-2004, 09:48 AM   #22
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I made a lot of money once with dialers. I wish I still did.
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Old 02-03-2004, 02:13 PM   #24
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naaaah... why you say that?
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