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  • The Forager
    Registered User
    • Sep 2003
    • 36
    #1

    Google - WTF?

    Over the last few months I had an average income of about 200$/day owing to SE, in particular Google traffic only.

    I recently noticed a terrible decrease of my earnings.
    After researching, I found out that my sites are not ranked in high positions any more, that means I currently get almost no Google traffic.

    Strangely the pagerank increased.

    So, what the fuck is going on with google? Is there a chance for my sites to re-get their old positions?
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    • Argoz
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2002
      • 3006
      #2
      hmmmm strange!
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        • chemicaleyes
          UNSTOPPABLE
          • Aug 2003
          • 11569
          #3
          hmmmm strange!
          google been fucking with alot of things at the moment
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            • ryph
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2002
              • 1225
              #4
              get link exchanges from *relevant* sites. you won't fail.
              tom at ryphs dot com

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                • bignasty
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 1421
                  #5
                  google has been fucking around a lot lately. in the past month and a half, ive gone from my site being way down there, up to the top 10, back down, back to the top 10, and then back down.
                  '

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                    • Dveron
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2794
                      #6
                      Pagerank isn't as bigger factor as it once was. You should work on linkage more now imho.
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                        • twistyneck
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 4660
                          #7
                          If you can't beat 'em, pay 'em.

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                            • The Forager
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 36
                              #8
                              Originally posted by ryph
                              get link exchanges from *relevant* sites. you won't fail.
                              Ok. Is there somebody who would put a link on his site to http://www.celebrityshome.com (Link text: Nude Celebrities), then?

                              The site currently has a PR of 4.
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                              ICQ# 98844649

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                                • suesheboy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 5211
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by twistyneck
                                  If you can't beat 'em, pay 'em.
                                  I am so done with PPC with Google.

                                  I am stopping thier PPC in a few weeks. It just doesnt pay as it used to.
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                                    • TheMaster
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 2734
                                      #10
                                      does google track redirected links like
                                      http://www.yeahbabes.com/cgi-bin/jump.cgi?ID=3549
                                      to it's end destination, do these links help the targeted sites in their ranking?

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                                        • cyberdudex
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 163
                                          #11
                                          does google track redirected links...?
                                          No, I don't think so. I just got a 'raise' when I exchanged clean links.

                                          Good luck.

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                                            • McSpike
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 1042
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by suesheboy
                                              It just doesnt pay as it used to.
                                              no shit. after all the idiots telling other idiots how google PPC is great what did you expect, idiots to sit still?

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                                                • Odin
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                  • 2545
                                                  #13
                                                  It is very hard to stay on top when it comes to Google at the moment. Things are changing all the time, and unless you are truly on top of your game, it is quite possible you wil get replaced. I've lost some nice ranks recently too.
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                                                    • beemk
                                                      CLICK HERE
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 20829
                                                      #14
                                                      damn, i could have sworn SE positions were permenant
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                                                        • kenny
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 7245
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Chief
                                                          It is very hard to stay on top when it comes to Google at the moment. Things are changing all the time, and unless you are truly on top of your game, it is quite possible you wil get replaced. I've lost some nice ranks recently too.
                                                          I would have to say it is impossible to stay on top. The changes are to dramatic and make no sense what so ever.


                                                          The only way to insure good listings in Google is to have some monster site like Amazon.
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                                                            • kush2
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 495
                                                              #16
                                                              Forager, shoot me an email kushATbeufordsDOTcom

                                                              I won't promise any big scale dealings with you b/c I don't know exactly how many sites/which niches/what PR/etc that you have, but I'll at least take a look, do a few link trades a minimum, offer some advice, and maybe we can work something bigger out.
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                                                                • Tipsy
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 6989
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by kenny


                                                                  I would have to say it is impossible to stay on top. The changes are to dramatic and make no sense what so ever.


                                                                  The only way to insure good listings in Google is to have some monster site like Amazon.
                                                                  ...with a monster advertising budget to back it up
                                                                  Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                    • Odin
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                      • 2545
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by kenny


                                                                      I would have to say it is impossible to stay on top. The changes are to dramatic and make no sense what so ever.


                                                                      The only way to insure good listings in Google is to have some monster site like Amazon.
                                                                      Yep, that is quite true. It is a good idea to have different networks, and to also cast a wide net. I have some sites which are only a couple of pages big, and are aimed at really only a particular specific keywords, but at the same time I also have quality sites which are upwards of 16,000 pages big. So after each update, even if I have been smashed, I still manage to bring in a few hits, before I work out how to improve.
                                                                      ICQ: 637//961--015

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                                                                        • Fonz
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                          • 486
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I heard google is removing al the adult sites that are listed under a keyword that is not an adult word, like "pussy" or so
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                                                                            • nuclei
                                                                              old school fart
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 1015
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Welcome to "Austin".
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                                                                                • - Jesus Christ -
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 7197
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Fonz
                                                                                  I heard google is removing al the adult sites that are listed under a keyword that is not an adult word, like "pussy" or so
                                                                                  I heard the moon is made of GORGANZOLA CHEESE.

                                                                                  Amen

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                                                                                    • kush2
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 495
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Fonz
                                                                                      I heard google is removing al the adult sites that are listed under a keyword that is not an adult word, like "pussy" or so
                                                                                      where did you "hear" this?
                                                                                      SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                                        • kush2
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 495
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by nuclei
                                                                                          Welcome to "Austin".
                                                                                          I live in austin....

                                                                                          This SE update was a good step in the right direction, I think.
                                                                                          Still some major, major defects, but a good step.
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                                                                                            • Rorschach
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 5579
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
                                                                                              I heard the moon is made of GORGANZOLA CHEESE.
                                                                                              It is, didn't you know?

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                                                                                                • kenny
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                  • 7245
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  You will notice that all the sites with heavy link popularity always rank high across many search terms. Which indicates that link popularity remains the dominate force in ranking. Followed distantly by keyword weight and page rank. No matter how often they change those huge sites with a million sites linking to them never seem to be effected. While a keyword rich site with a PR6 gets thrown around like a football.



                                                                                                  http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/
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                                                                                                    • Tipsy
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                      • 6989
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by kenny
                                                                                                      You will notice that all the sites with heavy link popularity always rank high across many search terms. Which indicates that link popularity remains the dominate force in ranking. Followed distantly by keyword weight and page rank. No matter how often they change those huge sites with a million sites linking to them never seem to be effected. While a keyword rich site with a PR6 gets thrown around like a football.



                                                                                                      http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/

                                                                                                      Way too over-simplified and not always true. As above you need those glasses that super impose a dollar sign to really see the big picture
                                                                                                      Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                                                        • kenny
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                          • 7245
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Tipsy



                                                                                                          Way too over-simplified and not always true. As above you need those glasses that super impose a dollar sign to really see the big picture
                                                                                                          From what I can see it is true. It is a rather simple approach but the results remain constant.

                                                                                                          Sites with huge link popularity rank high and span across many search terms. While keyword weight and page rank play a factor the link pop remains dominate.

                                                                                                          Sites with huge link pop will not always rank #1 in a search term but they will rank in the top 20 for 2000 search terms. Atleast that is how it appears to me during my frequent Google searches
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                                                                                                            • nuclei
                                                                                                              old school fart
                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                              • 1015
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by kenny
                                                                                                              You will notice that all the sites with heavy link popularity always rank high across many search terms. Which indicates that link popularity remains the dominate force in ranking. Followed distantly by keyword weight and page rank. No matter how often they change those huge sites with a million sites linking to them never seem to be effected. While a keyword rich site with a PR6 gets thrown around like a football.



                                                                                                              http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/
                                                                                                              Not quite true. While the real reason they rank better also increases linkpop, thats not the main reason.
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                                                                                                                • nuclei
                                                                                                                  old school fart
                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                  • 1015
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Tipsy



                                                                                                                  Way too over-simplified and not always true. As above you need those glasses that super impose a dollar sign to really see the big picture
                                                                                                                  Actually the best way to increase ranking 100 fold is just as simplified. And he was close in what he said.
                                                                                                                  The next generation of SEO

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                                                                                                                    • JayJay
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                      • 3739
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Trial and Error

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                                                                                                                        • nuclei
                                                                                                                          old school fart
                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                          • 1015
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by JayJay
                                                                                                                          Trial and Error
                                                                                                                          no, google is all about links.
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                                                                                                                            • pussyluver
                                                                                                                              Clueless OleMan
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                              • 11009
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Fonz
                                                                                                                              I heard google is removing al the adult sites that are listed under a keyword that is not an adult word, like "pussy" or so
                                                                                                                              This could be so true. Pussyluvers.com was no. 4 for a long while. Now it moves around from page 3 to page 7 depending on time of day it seems. Hell on SE traffic. I see the number of adult sites on the first three pages changing constantly for the last week or so. Still dancing?

                                                                                                                              MY opinion is that they have different algos for different keywords and site types. So links count differently. Keep hearing that cross links hurt your rating. Link backs help better if they don't come from a trading partner.

                                                                                                                              Google also does not come close to listing all my back links, not even from PR5 sites.

                                                                                                                              Given the political climate, it would come as no shock if plans were in the works to remove adult sites from the SE. This would hurt Google big time. Plus provide the chance for someone to fill the void.

                                                                                                                              If Microsoft buys Google some how, think you can count on the adult words going away.

                                                                                                                              Think it would be OK, to have a seperate search area on Google for adult sites. I could live with that.

                                                                                                                              This brings us back to the question of white hat or black hat SEO. Stilll wearing that white hat (Ethical SEO) here.
                                                                                                                              Last edited by pussyluver; 02-02-2004, 02:43 AM.

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                                                                                                                                • body
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 5016
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Google just hired porn webmaster and added their own porn sites on top to make some bucks, finally
                                                                                                                                  The Goddess Of Steps

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                                                                                                                                    •  Smokey The Bear 
                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 3880
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by body
                                                                                                                                      Google just hired porn webmaster and added their own porn sites on top to make some bucks, finally
                                                                                                                                      i hope so.

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                                                                                                                                        • rigrunner
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 877
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          ive noticed a drop in google searches myself but page rank on my sites has also risen.

                                                                                                                                          It hasnt been so bad for me because I still get a lot of traffic from other engines. MSN and alltheweb are ood ones to go for
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                                                                                                                                            • pussyluver
                                                                                                                                              Clueless OleMan
                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 11009
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by body
                                                                                                                                              Google just hired porn webmaster and added their own porn sites on top to make some bucks, finally
                                                                                                                                              Where do I apply? When I get in, just paypal me..... LOL

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                                                                                                                                                • kenny
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 7245
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Google is all about Google they only give PR10 to themselves and their billionaire friends.

                                                                                                                                                  So it looks like they are king of the world or something


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                                                                                                                                                    • body
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 5016
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by pussyluver

                                                                                                                                                      Where do I apply? When I get in, just paypal me..... LOL
                                                                                                                                                      The Goddess Of Steps

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                                                                                                                                                        • Tipsy
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 6989
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by nuclei


                                                                                                                                                          Actually the best way to increase ranking 100 fold is just as simplified. And he was close in what he said.
                                                                                                                                                          Who the fuck was talking about ranking?

                                                                                                                                                          Funny thread
                                                                                                                                                          Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                                                                                                            • KraZ
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 2636
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by twistyneck
                                                                                                                                                              If you can't beat 'em, pay 'em.
                                                                                                                                                              Exactly - pay for AdWords and relax...
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                                                                                                                                                                • Lykos
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 31032
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Google just hired porn webmaster and added their own porn sites on top to make some bucks, finally

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                                                                                                                                                                    • nuclei
                                                                                                                                                                      old school fart
                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1015
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Tipsy


                                                                                                                                                                      Who the fuck was talking about ranking?

                                                                                                                                                                      Funny thread
                                                                                                                                                                      The person that you quoted was talking about how some sites rank in the serps. So, you were I guess.
                                                                                                                                                                      The next generation of SEO

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