Adult biz over saturated ? - GoFuckYourself.com

Sneka · 01-30-2004, 08:18 PM

I see a lot of adult companies / providers popping up but as fast as they showed of, they disappeared. I wonder if there is still a room for new companies or if the market is already over saturated.
Normally, the more you have serious companies in the same domain ( hosting, design etc etc ) and the more you will have a price and quality competition.
Do you think new and solid companies could be a good thing or a good way to bring a fresh air in this industry ?

Snek'

Fabuleux · 01-30-2004, 08:22 PM

Only if that fresh company comes with fresh ideas.

cockholster · 01-30-2004, 08:27 PM

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JunkyardDog · 01-30-2004, 08:31 PM

There is always room in any industry if the person is smart, ambious and has a fresh idea or spin on the way things are currently done.

Innovators always find a way to succeed.

hershie · 01-30-2004, 08:35 PM

A crazy stat I have, is if you click on the link in my sig to SPonsorsList - you will see that there are 800+ Sponsor programs out there in adult.

AaronM · 01-30-2004, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by cockholster
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suesheboy · 01-30-2004, 08:37 PM

Way too many people promoting the same thing.

Jeka · 01-30-2004, 08:54 PM

I think I would move to the new company if the support and price/quality is better than my old one.

I also think we should always give the new companies a chance to proof their reliability and quality.

Sneka · 01-30-2004, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by suesheboy
Way too many people promoting the same thing.

Exactly the point I'm showing. Same pornstars everywhere, same content on many sites, a lot of sites promoting the same sponsor and programs etc etc...
Not to add another chapter to the Paris Hilton story, but see how this new wave made a good a quick rise. Seems that new and solid stuff are doing well.
But do you think peeps could be ready to use another sponsor / hosting comp / billing solution if the new thing is performant with a better support and same or lower prices ?

Sneka · 01-30-2004, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Jeka
I think I would move to the new company if the support and price/quality is better than my old one.

I also think we should always give the new companies a chance to proof their reliability and quality.

lol bitch =) you answer b4 I ask things now ? you're a Xmen !

KRL · 01-30-2004, 10:01 PM

If you are worried about competition save your money and quit now.

bret · 01-30-2004, 10:07 PM

"this market is over saturated"

the battle cry a failed businessman. every fucking person that is losing money in a particular sector says this. from pizza manufactureing to adult.

maybe these pathetic losers should work harder and bitch less.

Sneka · 01-30-2004, 10:12 PM

I'm not worried about competition, but as you know things must be thought a lot before the start, to be sure that all will be ok.
There is no interest to open something if nobody want move or test something else. I'm the 1st to say investments are the way to go, but time is precious and it's not useful to waste it.

Paul Markham · 01-30-2004, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
If you are worried about competition save your money and quit now.

Exactly what I thought.

Webby · 01-30-2004, 10:45 PM

Sneka:

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I see a lot of adult companies / providers popping up but as fast as they showed of, they disappeared.

That's been happening ever since I started years back.

There was a "boom of newbies" time around 99 when everyone and their dogs thought they would make money on the net. What actually happened was this "batch" just got in the way and took 90% of sponsors support time, then disappeared.

I dunno, but reckon less than 5% of new folks starting now will be around at the end of this year, - all talk and hype, but little to support that.

balrog · 01-30-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Sneka:

That's been happening ever since I started years back.

There was a "boom of newbies" time around 99 when everyone and their dogs thought they would make money on the net. What actually happened was this "batch" just got in the way and took 90% of sponsors support time, then disappeared.

I dunno, but reckon less than 5% of new folks starting now will be around at the end of this year, - all talk and hype, but little to support that.

I could tell you guys things that would make your skin crawl.
I could show you things that you wouldnt believe, I wont as you all still want to make money,and If I did you wouldnt..allright someone send me a beer and a wet blonde..

balrog · 01-30-2004, 10:50 PM

and hurry up..Im getting a little bored here..

Webby · 01-30-2004, 10:51 PM

balrog:

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allright someone send me a beer and a wet blonde

Sounds like you need that beer!

Sorry.. the blonde is busy right now :-)

balrog · 01-30-2004, 10:51 PM

cheers dude...

Basic_man · 01-30-2004, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by cockholster
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Your spam suck dude!

Matt 26z · 01-30-2004, 11:55 PM

It's over saturated for only two types of webmasters.

1. New webmasters who haven't made it yet, don't have much talent, and never will make it as a result of the large talent pool. Many times these indviduals become so delirious of their "pending success" that they can't even see how bad their sites are, or simply refuse to accept it.

2. Old webmasters who have been successful, but only because of a previously small talent pool and are now slowly being phased out little by little. That's why so many of these guys are now scamming surfers and/or webmasters. It's their desperate attempt to suplement lost income caused by their overall lack of talent by today's standards.

balrog · 01-30-2004, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by Matt 26z
It's over saturated for only two types of webmasters.

1. New webmasters who haven't made it yet, don't have much talent, and never will make it as a result of the large talent pool. Many times these indviduals become so delirious of their "pending success" that they can't even see how bad their sites are, or simply refuse to accept it.

2. Old webmasters who have been successful, but only because of a previously small talent pool and are now slowly being phased out little by little. That's why so many of these guys are now scamming surfers and/or webmasters. It's their desperate attempt to suplement lost income caused by their overall lack of talent by today's standards.

blah balh ablah blah blah balh balh...

yet another quote from a clueless moron..

JulianSosa · 01-31-2004, 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by cockholster
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It was 10 yesterday.
And you dont reply to icq

Webby · 01-31-2004, 12:26 AM

balrog:

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yet another quote from a clueless moron..

If these comments were mean't to be "advice" or an "opinion" based on experience - hell, I'd prefer chatting with my dog

Matt 26z · 01-31-2004, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by balrog
yet another quote from a clueless moron..

No, just a quick incomplete statement that doesn't necessarily apply to everyone.

The bottom line is that it's not over saturated for everyone. It depends who you are and what level you are on. It depends on what you are doing.

Webby · 01-31-2004, 12:42 AM

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No, just a quick incomplete statement that doesn't necessarily apply to everyone.

The bottom line is that it's not over saturated for everyone. It depends who you are and what level you are on. It depends on what you are doing.

This is all far too complex for my peabrain!!!

First, tis something that may not "necessarily apply to everyone".

Then it's "not over staturated for everyone".

Then it's all "depending" on who you are, what "level" you are on and "what you are doing"..........

Sounds like this is yet another "incomplete" statement???

Is the biz saturated or not??? Na.. forget it!!

bret · 01-31-2004, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by Matt 26z

No, just a quick incomplete statement that doesn't necessarily apply to everyone.

The bottom line is that it's not over saturated for everyone. It depends who you are and what level you are on. It depends on what you are doing.

i think you might want to go look up the word saturated in a dictionary.

GTS Mark · 01-31-2004, 12:51 AM

"There is always room in the market for quality."
Larry Flynt

DH

VideoJ · 01-31-2004, 02:15 AM

Yes, parts of the market are very saturated. Other parts are not. Already found two nice holes where nobody is yet and am building the shovels to fill them

Matt 26z · 01-31-2004, 05:29 AM

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Originally posted by Webby

This is all far too complex for my peabrain!!!

First, tis something that may not "necessarily apply to everyone".

Then it's "not over staturated for everyone".

Then it's all "depending" on who you are, what "level" you are on and "what you are doing"..........

Sounds like this is yet another "incomplete" statement???

Is the biz saturated or not??? Na.. forget it!!

Really though, the question of over saturation shouldn't have been asked in the first place. One could write an entire essay on the issue. It's like asking how much money a TGP can make. The question is too broad, and it's an individual issue.

Platinum Dave · 01-31-2004, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by cockholster
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One comment. What percentage of webmasters can do 25 joins a day? Why even post you pay something you really dont?

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EmporerEJ · 01-31-2004, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by JunkyardDog
There is always room in any industry if the person is smart, ambious and has a fresh idea or spin on the way things are currently done.

Innovators always find a way to succeed.

Well spoken. I could not hope to improve on that statement.

Sneka · 01-31-2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Andersen
Morgan, you looking for something new ? Tired of promoting the same old stuff ?

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Check out the sig for some new and revolutionary stuff

< /END SPAMCODE >

sure Bjorn, I promised you to use the sms program. My site is growing well and hitting 180/190k day now. I checked the codes and banners you provide for smskings, and I can't install them now.
It will possible soon, but I prefer continue this point on ICQ.
I'm going to work hard the next month to bring other sites over 200k and will use it there too.

In fact, I launched this subject not because I need something new to promote: you know I'm doing good cash from my own biz. But I would like invest some decent money in something new for a better stability in the futur. I don't want people to give me ideas cuz I already have good ones... and I surely will exploit them, if I have enough time.

JDog · 01-31-2004, 11:43 AM

Yes the internet adult biz is over saturated, I can't see many new sites coming out. The big players will be around for a long while and every site they launch will be around!

jDoG

Observing · 01-31-2004, 11:44 AM

There's room for anyone who thinks out of the box and doesn't just try to copy everyone else, ow wait, there's room for those too. Actually I dunno what you are on about.

Bruno · 01-31-2004, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard
"There is always room in the market for quality."
Larry Flynt

DH

Amen

davecummings · 01-31-2004, 04:32 PM

We are glutted with porn releases (and footage from wannabe producers using it as a means to get laid)---it's the old economic supply versus demand stuff, and it's a financial challenge for already existing companies, as well as new ones who might soon also be suffering likewise!

Dave
www.davecummings.com

01-30-2004, 08:18 PM	#1
Sneka Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 413	Adult biz over saturated ? I see a lot of adult companies / providers popping up but as fast as they showed of, they disappeared. I wonder if there is still a room for new companies or if the market is already over saturated. Normally, the more you have serious companies in the same domain ( hosting, design etc etc ) and the more you will have a price and quality competition. Do you think new and solid companies could be a good thing or a good way to bring a fresh air in this industry ? Snek'

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VideoJ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: S. Florida Posts: 750	Yes, parts of the market are very saturated. Other parts are not. Already found two nice holes where nobody is yet and am building the shovels to fill them __________________ Somebody stole my damn signture...

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cockholster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 57	# $35 per free join. # awesome conversions. # payments every week. --> Must be able to generate at least 25 joins per day to qualify for program. Contacts, see sig.

01-30-2004, 08:31 PM	#4
JunkyardDog Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Swamp Posts: 788	There is always room in any industry if the person is smart, ambious and has a fresh idea or spin on the way things are currently done. Innovators always find a way to succeed.

01-30-2004, 08:35 PM	#5
hershie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,642	A crazy stat I have, is if you click on the link in my sig to SPonsorsList - you will see that there are 800+ Sponsor programs out there in adult.

01-30-2004, 08:54 PM	#8
Jeka Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 123	I think I would move to the new company if the support and price/quality is better than my old one. I also think we should always give the new companies a chance to proof their reliability and quality.

01-30-2004, 10:07 PM	#12
bret Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: detroit Posts: 766	"this market is over saturated" the battle cry a failed businessman. every fucking person that is losing money in a particular sector says this. from pizza manufactureing to adult. maybe these pathetic losers should work harder and bitch less.

01-30-2004, 10:12 PM	#13
Sneka Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 413	I'm not worried about competition, but as you know things must be thought a lot before the start, to be sure that all will be ok. There is no interest to open something if nobody want move or test something else. I'm the 1st to say investments are the way to go, but time is precious and it's not useful to waste it.

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balrog Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 253	and hurry up..Im getting a little bored here..

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balrog Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 253	cheers dude...

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	It's over saturated for only two types of webmasters. 1. New webmasters who haven't made it yet, don't have much talent, and never will make it as a result of the large talent pool. Many times these indviduals become so delirious of their "pending success" that they can't even see how bad their sites are, or simply refuse to accept it. 2. Old webmasters who have been successful, but only because of a previously small talent pool and are now slowly being phased out little by little. That's why so many of these guys are now scamming surfers and/or webmasters. It's their desperate attempt to suplement lost income caused by their overall lack of talent by today's standards.

01-31-2004, 12:51 AM	#28
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	"There is always room in the market for quality." Larry Flynt DH

01-31-2004, 11:43 AM	#34
JDog Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canby, OR Posts: 7,453	Yes the internet adult biz is over saturated, I can't see many new sites coming out. The big players will be around for a long while and every site they launch will be around! jDoG __________________ NSCash now powering ReelProfits.com ALSO FEATURING: NSCash.com :: SoloDollars.com :: ReelProfits.com :: BiminiBucks.com :: VOD PROGRAMS COMING SOON: Greedy Bucks :: Vengeance Cash NOW OFFERING OVER 60 SITES CONTACT :: JAMES SMITH :: CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER :: ICQ (711385133)

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Observing Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 809	There's room for anyone who thinks out of the box and doesn't just try to copy everyone else, ow wait, there's room for those too. Actually I dunno what you are on about. __________________ ICQ: 278-457-533

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davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	We are glutted with porn releases (and footage from wannabe producers using it as a means to get laid)---it's the old economic supply versus demand stuff, and it's a financial challenge for already existing companies, as well as new ones who might soon also be suffering likewise! Dave www.davecummings.com