you said i am calling him an idiot because i disagree with him. that is not the case. i am calling him a piece of shit beacuse he is one.

i dont ever call anyone an idiot simply because i disagree with them.

the anger is towards people that ridicule and attack a system they know very little about, present no alternative solutions and don't even buy into the propaganda they push.

this guy laughs all the way to the bank and these people still proclaim him a messiah.

yeah I know who he is and have seen that movie ( and his others ) I agree with you about this part of the movie. That part actually pissed me off because he made it out like somehow it was either Dick Clark or the Governments fault that this woman had a child out of wedlock and was forced to work to support her kid and get welfare. God forbid we should make people work to support their kids. Another part of that that didn't make sense is that he says she worked often 60-70 hours a week but still couldn't pay the rent so she had to move in with the relative. How? She had no car because she took the bus and the bus was free. She got food stamps as part of her welfare for working how much was the rent on here little place be? If there is one thing I know about a lot of people on welfare ( not all of them but many of them and, unfortunatly I've known a lot of them, ) it's that they have screwed up priorities when it comes to money. I've known a lot of people that were on welfare wh had bill collectors calling them, had leins agianst thier bank accounts and were always struggling to put food on the table but they seemed to have $200 cordless phones and cable with ever movie channel and nice clothes. I wonder what we aren't seeing. He never said where the money she made went.

I agree that he often goes on tangents about things that are unrelated and it sometimes sidetracks his point. He doesn't have the answers. He actually does give a lot of data/facts/stats to back up many of his points. If everything he said was made up he would be under a constant birage of libal lawsuits. He does sometimes have the answers. He thought it was wrong that K-mart would sell handgun ammo to anyone. He eventually got them to stop selling handgun ammo all together.

What bothers me is that he is voicing his displeasure with how the country is being run and giving examples of other countries that he feels are doing some things better that we may learn from and you just want him to just shut up and leave.

I don't see him as a messiah or as some guy who's striving for vast social change, but I think he's an interesting guy with some valid points. I don't agree with everything he says. As a matter of fact I dont agree with a lot of it but some of it is very thought provoking.

moron comes from the greek word moros which means idiot. It's synonymous of idiot in english language, but you already know that right?

Such phrases have been used by various dictators in the past. Free speech is one of your american civil rights. So, nobody allows him this great freedom, at least for the moment.

soul - don't be wasting your time on haters!

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If I'm not mistaken you are talking about Bush.

I concur

The world needs more Michael Moores

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wow. you can look up the root of a word. is that supposed to impress me?


actually without leadership, military, economics, government, etc... none of these freedoms would exist.

you think just because 200+ years ago someone declaired these our birth rights that everyone in the world is going to respect that? no... you are sadly mistaken, these rights are upheld through silent wars fought everyday... but you already know that right?

get a fucking clue.

i enjoy bowling for columbine -- in frenh ..la vérité est toujours bonne a dire ..

hmmm... i don't recall bush making millions off shabby documentaries...

michael moore has an agenda that he himself does not even follow...

all someone has to do is point a finger and say "look, your life is messed up, and their lives are messed up, and it is by no fault of your own... it's the fault of the 'powers that be'!" and you jump right on, check book in hand, and follow... fucking liberals... i swear.

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I don't think Micheal Moore should be silenced, he has a right to speak up just like everyone else. The problem is, he is using his propoganda machine for profit. Yeah, thats not so bad, but there are two big problems with it: 1. Its lies. BFC was packed with foolish rhetoric thats been dissected by many, and its pathetically innaccurate facts (in his favor of course). Problem 2. People actually believe it.

Instead of whining about Bush, mabye some of these liberal hippies should vote against him. I have talked to so many of these stinky freaks, and they all hate bush, and hold up signs when he's in town, and get all the attention that comes with it, but most of them are not registered voters because "thats how the government tracks you". Pure morons.

Its activism for the sake of attention. Moore's fanbase largely consists of these logic deprived fools. You know, the same people that protest the cutting of trees with their wooden signs.

Micheal Moore is truly a leader of fools.

I've got a lot of respect for that guy, hes got balls :thumbsup

Indeed..

And saying he's working class...haha RIGHT :1orglaugh

No, it points your mistake.


If you eliminate dispute and any kind of critisism your upheld rights won't last too long.

You could have spent your time stating Moore's mistakes, but you decided to verbally attack him without providing much things. You are not alone on this. The majority of Moore's opposers follow this path which has as outcome to make him even more popular. His moronic strategy works like a charm... but you didn't know that right? :-)

I totally agree. If only his followers would realize Moore is capitalising on a certain niche........he makes millions with it & I think he actually disservices the left in the long run because whatever he does, as he weaves his embellishments and lies into it, simply does not stand up to public scrutiny and falls apart.

The left needs someone more balanced, logical, and more honest than someone like Moore........and not Al Franken either.......he's another nut job who now seems to be into tackling people who say things he doesn't agree with.

Whats with all these dolts like Moore, Franken, and Limbaugh? Wheres the reasoning and not the blind advocacy?

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what mistake?

and i dont need to point out moore's mistakes... that has been done over and over and over and over...

and again. let me repeat. he is a fucktard. done/done

way to totally misunderstand something, nice tanty though. I didn't say dick clark should pay for it, I said he should be given TAX BREAKS so that there is no net loss for him to provide daycare.. it's not a hard concept to understand. Companies are given all kinds of tax breaks for many different types of things, tax breaks to provide day care centres is something however that actually benefits me and you as well as dick clark because it helps keep her kids from stealing my shit when they grow up gang bangers because mom was never around as well as better productivity from his workers when they're not leaving right on the bell to get home to little jimmy or whatever. Corporate welfare that actually benefits me and you and not just the company in question.
I don't give a fuck about her and her kid, I give a fuck about not having another criminal stealing my shit.

in that case. good suggestion... i still dont think it should come out of dick clark's (or corp america's) pocket... nor do i think it should come out of my pocket (aka taxes).

too bad women like this can't get together in groups of 6 or 7 and round-robin day care for the kids for each other for free. thats a solution everyone can live with.

cool, michael moore's great, even if you hate him, you've got to say.. atleast he has the balls to stand up for what he believes in.