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Old 01-27-2004, 08:53 PM   #1
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SE Traffic: I've Seen The Light

Amazing the difference a pr ranking makes...I kinda feel like Steve Martin when he found out his "purpose," in the Jerk...I like this...I like it uh lot
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Old 01-27-2004, 08:57 PM   #2
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I've taken some hits, but se traffic is nice=]
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:11 PM   #3
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Yep, SE traffic rules, but don't get too comfortable with it. Google changes all the time, and unless you really have a diverse range of SE networks, one update can be the end of you.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:14 PM   #5
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Yep, SE traffic rules, but don't get too comfortable with it. Google changes all the time, and unless you really have a diverse range of SE networks, one update can be the end of you.
dont focus on any one keyword/phrase on any one site. you get penalized on a certain term, another may get boosted. it's all about not stressing when a serious update happens. yes, ive learned this the hard way. lol
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:38 PM   #6
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quick question: Will I burn myself out if a create a different webpage for every single different phrase i'm going after? I have about 150 phrases right now that I would like and right now i have been creating a webpage for each phrase(i'm on 3/150). just curious if this is the method that the majority use
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:41 PM   #7
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I've always found that a little SE traffic beats any other kind.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:53 PM   #8
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I seem to get really good spots for models and other sites, but if someone is looking for a specific model or pay site by name, chances are they are looking for free content. Unless its a niche search term.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:55 PM   #9
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Yep, SE traffic rules, but don't get too comfortable with it. Google changes all the time, and unless you really have a diverse range of SE networks, one update can be the end of you.
Great advise and very true

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Old 01-27-2004, 09:56 PM   #10
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I just started building a few free sites targetting s.e. traffic around a specific small niche and can't believe how fast the traffic has rolled in and Page Rank has shot up.
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I think its obviously time to invest in WordTracker to get the most of SEO. Is there anything else out there like WordTracker I should consider?
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:59 PM   #12
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Dont think so small and you may do ok
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... send your SE traffic that way and make the most out of it ... send it somewhere else and you'll be losing money ... it's up to you and I DO KNOW what I am talking about.
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... send your SE traffic that way and make the most out of it ... send it somewhere else and you'll be losing money ... it's up to you and I DO KNOW what I am talking about.
So you think having the SE traffic hit your page, click a link, and sending them to another list of search results is more profitable than sending them to a site or presenting them with a list of sites that's relevant to their search?
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quick question: Will I burn myself out if a create a different webpage for every single different phrase i'm going after? I have about 150 phrases right now that I would like and right now i have been creating a webpage for each phrase(i'm on 3/150). just curious if this is the method that the majority use
No, you won't burn yourself unless you DON'T do that .. trust me ;)

easy method tip if you don't have a script:
keep them all within the same genre
put your original in one folder
use acdsee to create 150 new folders
copy and paste your original into those new folders
open those new indexes 25 or so at a time in your html editor
change the title tag and use a P tag (full text paragrahp) containing one of the 150 phrases from that same genre
name the folder the same as the title
interlink using a php call
upload the folders

oversimplified but effective
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:15 PM   #16
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So you think having the SE traffic hit your page, click a link, and sending them to another list of search results is more profitable than sending them to a site or presenting them with a list of sites that's relevant to their search?
NO, I don't think it is, I know it is !!!!
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:18 PM   #17
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NO, I don't think it is, I know it is !!!!
Interesting.

SE's aren't my thing so I'll have to take your word for it.


BTW....are you affiliated with the company you recommend sending the SE traffic to?
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:21 PM   #18
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BTW....are you affiliated with the company you recommend sending the SE traffic to?
... I am the project manager.
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:37 PM   #19
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yeh SE traffic rulez! Google is very lovable
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yeah, SE traffic rocks when it's not being torn from your grasps by google updates that list cloakers all over the first 3 pages of results and your honnestly attained listings are GONE.


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Old 01-27-2004, 11:00 PM   #21
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yeh SE traffic rulez! Google is very lovable
I only use google for getting my rocks off
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Hey Vicki,
Why use the php call to interlink the pages and not just hard link them?

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Why use the php call to interlink the pages and not just hard link them?

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they're easier to change (change one file and it updates on all pages with that call)

as your # of domains/sites/pages grow, you'll find that different sites will gain higher PR and traffic. When that happens you'll want to use them as your aces in the hole to boost others, therefore you'll need to drop and add on a semi regular basis as time goes by.


another hint - place at least one EMPTY php call on your pages for future use

hope that helps ;)
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:29 PM   #24
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they're easier to change (change one file and it updates on all pages with that call)

as your # of domains/sites/pages grow, you'll find that different sites will gain higher PR and traffic. When that happens you'll want to use them as your aces in the hole to boost others, therefore you'll need to drop and add on a semi regular basis as time goes by.


another hint - place at least one EMPTY php call on your pages for future use

hope that helps ;)
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I love watching people talk about their google rankings.

Every time a page of theirs makes the top 10 its "good seo" and "honestly attained listings" and whenever they get bumped by someone else it was because the other webmaster "cheated"
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Every time a page of theirs makes the top 10 its "good seo" and "honestly attained listings" and whenever they get bumped by someone else it was because the other webmaster "cheated"
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I love watching people talk about their google rankings.

Every time a page of theirs makes the top 10 its "good seo" and "honestly attained listings" and whenever they get bumped by someone else it was because the other webmaster "cheated"
for me it was pure luck...I don't really understand the seo game just bits and pieces...I'll take it where I can get it tho'.

I'm not making a killing but it's good cash...I would just love to learn to duplicate something even remotely similar across a number of domains etc.
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hmm we need better rankings still noone has time and knowledge here to do that... ive posted to ask someone to get us a ranking on google with dutch & teen as keywords for our sites (dutchteenamateurs naomilove dutchdreamdate etc) this guy offered his services no downpayment $500 per site and *vanished*

sigh... anyone else who really can do that and keep it up as well ?
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... send your SE traffic that way and make the most out of it ... send it somewhere else and you'll be losing money ... it's up to you and I DO KNOW what I am talking about.
i'd rather sell you my crap traffic and make a killing on the real SE traffic myself than let someone else make that money from my own work and give you _the middle man_ a cut in the process.
nice business model though!
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hmm we need better rankings still noone has time and knowledge here to do that... ive posted to ask someone to get us a ranking on google with dutch & teen as keywords for our sites (dutchteenamateurs naomilove dutchdreamdate etc) this guy offered his services no downpayment $500 per site and *vanished*

sigh... anyone else who really can do that and keep it up as well ?
I can do it, get you thousands of listings, but it damn sure wont be that cheap
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No, you won't burn yourself unless you DON'T do that .. trust me ;)

easy method tip if you don't have a script:
keep them all within the same genre
put your original in one folder
use acdsee to create 150 new folders
copy and paste your original into those new folders
open those new indexes 25 or so at a time in your html editor
change the title tag and use a P tag (full text paragrahp) containing one of the 150 phrases from that same genre
name the folder the same as the title
interlink using a php call
upload the folders

oversimplified but effective
Over, oversimplified.
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I love watching people talk about their google rankings.

Every time a page of theirs makes the top 10 its "good seo" and "honestly attained listings" and whenever they get bumped by someone else it was because the other webmaster "cheated"
Very true. Anyways, on most competitive keywords, who doesn't "cheat"?
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Very true. Anyways, on most competitive keywords, who doesn't "cheat"?
Me?
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Just a hint, you might wanna redo your TOS.
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hmm we need better rankings still noone has time and knowledge here to do that... ive posted to ask someone to get us a ranking on google with dutch & teen as keywords for our sites (dutchteenamateurs naomilove dutchdreamdate etc) this guy offered his services no downpayment $500 per site and *vanished*

sigh... anyone else who really can do that and keep it up as well ?
I dunno, I think one of the problems is there are no guarantees in the SE world.
There are alot of GFY'ers that I know for a fact do very good optimisations but when there is a big change in algos (as happened recently) there isn't one of us out here that can predict the outcome.
I personally had several sites that had top 5 listings in google for highly competitive terms .. and had kept that position for over 2 years get bumped down
But at the same time I had others that previously had lower listings get bumped way up.
The interesting thing is, I still hold #1 or 2 spots for the original terms in Yahoo and placed very high in AV. Its definately and interesting game LOL

IMHO anyone that optimizes for, or asks for high ranking on one specific engine is shooting their own foot especially with the impending changes coming.

Another factor is that your sites are paysites if I'm not mistaken. Its rare to see a paysite itself get top rankings without having paid inclusions. Lots of reasons for that including the graphical angle. Its normally hubs/feeders that can concentrate more heavily on PR and text optimization you'll find with high listings.

I doubt anyone here would offer you what you want for the $500 you mentioned ... but then again ya never know ;)
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Over, oversimplified.
lol at least *I* offered some tips!! {hint hint nudge nudge} lol
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lol at least *I* offered some tips!! {hint hint nudge nudge} lol
I guess you feel that you have made more than enough money, and it is a good idea to let others cut into the piece of pie that you figured out.

If someone asks you how you're doing, just tell them things suck. They'll leave you alone, and you wont be cutting your own throat by giving away your own business plans.
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you all should give www.sex.com a try for your ppc search engine traffic....

my bad for spamming..but, i thought i would throw that into the ring...since this thread was on the topic...'
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uh, no it wasn't, funkmaster's spam was... yours wasn't, no one mentioned PPC
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uh, no it wasn't, funkmaster's spam was... yours wasn't, no one mentioned PPC
Sex.com is known for inserting their URL in forum posts... It's normal spam for them.
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my bad for spamming..but, i thought i would throw that into the ring...since this thread was on the topic...'
Guess what? I would try sex.com if you didnt SPAM every fucking thread you can.
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No, you won't burn yourself unless you DON'T do that .. trust me ;)

easy method tip if you don't have a script:
keep them all within the same genre
put your original in one folder
use acdsee to create 150 new folders
copy and paste your original into those new folders
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change the title tag and use a P tag (full text paragrahp) containing one of the 150 phrases from that same genre
name the folder the same as the title
interlink using a php call
upload the folders

oversimplified but effective
Does anyone know where I can purchase a script that will do this? I need a script that will make thousands of pages, each aimed at a specific keyword.... All the big dogs in Google have thousands upon thousands of pages for every book in the niche, any automation scripts for sale that can accomplish this or are they all using custom scripts?

Also, another question I have...

Is a page rank of 4 with a fresh tag "date" next to it in Google sufficient to get hundreds of targeted keyword pages into Google?

Or should I sign up for Seguru or Clickmojo and get a domain with at least PR of 7 or 8 to boost my feeder pages? Will the PR 4 with freshbot do?
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Old 01-29-2004, 06:29 PM   #47
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Does anyone know where I can purchase a script that will do this? I need a script that will make thousands of pages, each aimed at a specific keyword.... All the big dogs in Google have thousands upon thousands of pages for every book in the niche, any automation scripts for sale that can accomplish this or are they all using custom scripts?

Also, another question I have...

Is a page rank of 4 with a fresh tag "date" next to it in Google sufficient to get hundreds of targeted keyword pages into Google?

Or should I sign up for Seguru or Clickmojo and get a domain with at least PR of 7 or 8 to boost my feeder pages? Will the PR 4 with freshbot do?
Do it by hand.
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:05 AM   #49
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Do it by hand.
As posted in another thread...the other option is to boost PR on your own chosen domains.

Drop me an ICQ at 28495329 and I'll show ya how we do it.
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I did recode my script for google a few months ago and turn it into a dedicated google server with a few IPs and about 150 domains and last uptdate was great for me.
10.000 uniques/day from google do great for me this month.

Hope it'll stay like that for months
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