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Old 01-29-2004, 01:30 PM   #101
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Old 01-29-2004, 01:31 PM   #103
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99 fighting sinners..he who is without sins,cast the first lawsuit!

This is not about lawsuits. In lawsuits, lawyers are the winners 90% of the time.
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I am not a man of violence at all. But at some point, everyone and everything has a price.
Exactly. Especially if he's still good for the cash, I mean from a bald chicken you can't pull any feathers
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BradShaw, you say he has millions. Here is my advice if you do not get your money by posting here or outing the guy. You sue him for his ASS. $100k, lawyers fees, compensatory damages. If he in fact has many millions, he may be inclined to pay you your 100k if you sue him for everything he's got.
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Old 01-29-2004, 01:34 PM   #106
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Exactly. Especially if he's still good for the cash, I mean from a bald chicken you can't pull any feathers

Exactly, KB. This is no KB.
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Old 01-29-2004, 01:35 PM   #107
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Hmm...this makes all the threads about owing someone 500 bucks look like shit.
for some people $500 is more than $100k for Brad
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Old 01-29-2004, 01:37 PM   #108
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Are you sure you didn't get paid already ? They pay weekly. On time, everytime.
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I'm sure you'll get your money if they're that big of a player. After making that $17k bad deal public for almost a whole year, a big player like this won't want to be next.

So, just curious, you said it was a business deal. Is it a program you sent your mail traffic to? Or did you say it has nothing to do with mailing at all?

Here's what I think. I think sending someone out there is usually a good scare tactic, but I wouldn't bother if it's that big of a player with that much money. If I were Brad, I'd start my own radio show like JMM did. Start mother fucking the hell out of this person and tell the full story. You'd have tons of people tune in, you could probably recoup some money in ad spots right away.

Maybe do an article in AVNOnline? I'm assuming it's a big advertiser in that mag, so it probably wouldn't happen, but you never know.

Then make a banned button, and pay people to use it in their sig? Take their name or logo and put that red circle with that line through it over their image. You'd get the message out fast and business would hurt them pretty good. And it's all above the belt.

Good luck, if you use my methods, I want only 5%.
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Old 01-29-2004, 01:38 PM   #110
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guess you didn't sell those two paysites at $50K afterall eh?
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Old 01-29-2004, 01:39 PM   #111
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This is not about lawsuits. In lawsuits, lawyers are the winners 90% of the time.
So true....

Once upon a time a client asked me, if we will win the case. I had to reply: "I don´t know if you will win, but I´m sure I will."

So I would say it is a 100% chance.
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I am not a man of violence at all. But at some point, everyone and everything has a price.

I usually avoid it, but like it keep it handy when needed.
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Old 01-29-2004, 01:41 PM   #113
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You are an idiot to have that much $ at % sitting in an account.
it's possible it's an operating account - as many people in this biz pay out expensis only by wire...
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A lawsuit can grease the wheels of justice. You can't rule out a lawsuit. Especially in a case like this where the offender has much to lose. If he knows he rightly owes the money, it's hard to chance losing EVERYTHING over a small amount. He will likely settle at paying what he owes plus lawyers and processing.
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Well if it's $100K Canadian.. that's 74,980.26 US
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Hold on Brad... lemme check... right pocket - empty, left pocket... empty... back pocket - NICE ASS!!! But empty too. Ask Aaron M, I hear he's flush and a big playa around here.
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while I'm here. Oracle porn owes me $7.71 from paypal. pay up now or I'll send you know who to do you know what.
I owe you $7.71? For what?
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He has MANY millions.


well fuck then, he can pay the interest too. $100,000 i'll use a gfy board member interest rate i saw today. 1%




$100,000 x 1% = $100,100


I'm sure interest rates are higher somewhere. that 1% stuck in my head ever since I saw that bank statement.
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I owe you $7.71? For what?


for the KFC last night. it wasn't a gift. left me no wings either. don't forget tonight theres another poker tourney.
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BradShaw, you say he has millions. Here is my advice if you do not get your money by posting here or outing the guy. You sue him for his ASS. $100k, lawyers fees, compensatory damages. If he in fact has many millions, he may be inclined to pay you your 100k if you sue him for everything he's got.

There are no real grounds to sue. There was a phone call and a handshake deal. Also this guy could have $ in more countries than I have traveled to in my life. He is slick.
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well fuck then, he can pay the interest too. $100,000 i'll use a gfy board member interest rate i saw today. 1%




$100,000 x 1% = $100,100


I'm sure interest rates are higher somewhere. that 1% stuck in my head ever since I saw that bank statement.
Your math sucks...
100,000 x 1 = 100,000
%1 out of 100,000 is 1000
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fuck up the guys rep on here.... best way to get revenge is to get people not to do business with them
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well fuck then, he can pay the interest too. $100,000 i'll use a gfy board member interest rate i saw today. 1%




$100,000 x 1% = $100,100


I'm sure interest rates are higher somewhere. that 1% stuck in my head ever since I saw that bank statement.

Your math is off, $101,000
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There are no real grounds to sue. There was a phone call and a handshake deal. Also this guy could have $ in more countries than I have traveled to in my life. He is slick.
If this is the person I think it is, you'll never get the money. And a "collector" wouldn't help. Especially now that you've warned about the "collector". You'd be the one getting an uninvited visit. That person would make sure you would be very sorry for making this public. And would probably turn ShawCutie into ShawBustedUp.

Sometimes it's better to let it go...
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for $100k u should have already cut off his leg and offer him to pay 18% interest on the delay before you cut off the other.
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Why worry about a measly 100 G's?

Its all part of the buisiness
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There are no real grounds to sue. There was a phone call and a handshake deal. Also this guy could have $ in more countries than I have traveled to in my life. He is slick.
For the most part and to a limited extent, verbal contracts are just as valid as a written contract. I digress on that point. As for him being slick and hiding his money, this does indeed present a huge problem. But, you can make his financial life miserable. If you were to win a claim against him, he will be unable to open accounts in the US, make transactions, investments, get paid from US companies,get credit, puchase property or large ticket goods. His financial life in the US will be frozen. His only option would be some type of bankruptcy in the US courts, which I'm not sure is an option to non-citizens. If you can't get your money, you may as well make him as miserable as possible because of it.
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If this is the person I think it is, you'll never get the money. And a "collector" wouldn't help. Especially now that you've warned about the "collector". You'd be the one getting an uninvited visit. That person would make sure you would be very sorry for making this public. And would probably turn ShawCutie into ShawBustedUp.

Sometimes it's better to let it go...
Just let $100k go up in smoke?
How can that ever be a solution?

I'd drop him a note, say the debt will be increase with $10k per month from now on and then put some pro's on it. It's pretty simple from there.
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Your math sucks...
100,000 x 1 = 100,000
%1 out of 100,000 is 1000

Can I be your accountant?
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ok, I'm grabbing the popcorn.

I don't think Brad will call this person out. I think he's afraid of this person's status and wealth.

Talking in a round about way is one thing. Call him out. Who is it?

Why wait to mention his name or company? You had no problem mentioning KB right away, why should this be different? It's way more money, I'd think you'd say who it is already with that much at stake. Sounds like you've tried to work it out over a phone and it didn't work. So why the wait with mentioning who it is?

Of course it could all be a fake drama just to get Brads new sig sponsor seen really fast. Start a drama woth $100k, you'll get views in your threads for sure. For $8k in Brads sig, I'd want a Brad drama with a major player for a dispute for lot's of money.

Brilliant if it is made up.



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Done! Anything else you need Brad?
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ok, I'm grabbing the popcorn.

I don't think Brad will call this person out. I think he's afraid of this person's status and wealth.

Talking in a round about way is one thing. Call him out. Who is it?

Why wait to mention his name or company? You had no problem mentioning KB right away, why should this be different? It's way more money, I'd think you'd say who it is already with that much at stake. Sounds like you've tried to work it out over a phone and it didn't work. So why the wait with mentioning who it is?

Of course it could all be a fake drama just to get Brads new sig sponsor seen really fast. Start a drama woth $100k, you'll get views in your threads for sure. For $8k in Brads sig, I'd want a Brad drama with a major player for a dispute for lot's of money.

Brilliant if it is made up.



I am not into fake drama. Nor am I concerned about anyones wealth or reported "mob" ties.


David Vanderpool, Python owe me $100,000.

I was a 50/50 partner in a project, xpass.com. I was the $ guy, other partner was doing the nuts and bolts. Project was very late and not up to par, so I pulled funding in an attempt to gain more input into the product. Other partner went to Vanderpool who simply started funding the project in my place, yet I still owned 50%. He then called me and said "brad I have been funding xpass, I understand you own half of the project. How about I give you my word you will get your $100k back from me, and allow me to proceed"


From what I understand the entire project later on failed. I warned David what he was getting into to. But he told me regardless, I would get my $, I had his word.

I said ok.
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If I had 600k I'd turn it into 20 million within 1.5 years.
Haha, you can't get 600k but you can make 19.4 million with it in 1.5 years?
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nah seriously
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Haha, you can't get 600k but you can make 19.4 million with it in 1.5 years?
He can get 600k. He's saying if he had the guys 600k, he would turn it into 20 mil rather than let it sit in a 1% account.
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xpass is still around. So where does Lyford figure into all this?
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xpass is still around. So where does Lyford figure into all this?

They were old partners of mine, David "bought me out". Of course, all we had was a gentleman's agreement. There are several people who know the story, it is not like I just pulled this out of my ass today......
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Old 01-29-2004, 03:25 PM   #145
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Brad why don't you just pay off a former girlfriend of his to testify that he said he ripped you off for $100,000

Oh I know why....Because it didn't wotk very well with mine-
Especially when I started fucking her again and she told me everything you proposed-
No harm no foul

I DO salute your balls though.

Didn't think I knew about that one did you????
I KNOW A LOT more than most people think i do.....
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Old 01-29-2004, 03:28 PM   #146
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Old 01-29-2004, 03:35 PM   #147
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Interesting. I remember he had trouble getting things going. Seems like he "launched" at least 2 or 3 times, and at least once did a complete overhaul. I think some people got impatient waiting on things to get straightened out.
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Old 01-29-2004, 03:46 PM   #148
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Brad why don't you just pay off a former girlfriend of his to testify that he said he ripped you off for $100,000

Oh I know why....Because it didn't work very well with mine-
Especially when I started fucking her again and she told me everything you proposed-
No harm no foul

I DO salute your balls though.

Didn't think I knew about that one did you????
I KNOW A LOT more than most people think i do.....
KB, I am too cheap to pay off anyone, you know that. But thanks for adding to the mystique of Brad Shaw.

BTW, good to hear you are getting laid!
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Old 01-29-2004, 03:47 PM   #149
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