take pics if u confront him. Have a camera man standing by :P

:ak47: Perfection Jeff


She is a hottie! :Graucho


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I know exactly who you're talking about. I've been thinking the same thing for a while now.

We need to start a new TV show... "Where are they hiding now?"

Jeff thread are not "in" anymore...
GFY concluded him as a scammer.

Hey man, I've heard about you from him....Hit me up when you have a minute.

346-940-591

Lightweed?

As a point of clarification, I am not trying to attract the attention of that group. If it is who I am thinking of, that person is another one of the people who I talked to briefly on the show floor and we (in my opinion) had a good talk. He was very polite and proffesional, and his reputation and stature should not be called into question because of this issue.

My :2 cents:

Screwed twice?

I'd love to hear about the first time Boneprone.

Do tell.

Fuck, this dude hass some bad shit goin on this guy Jeff eh? good to know..... sorry to see it happen to someone to find out..... good luck on your new programs, and good luck to Arika......

I know what you are talking about and it makes me sad

Mutt,

Her site is not done yet. Honestly, it's half because I have been lazy and busy with another project, and half because of some mojor local drama we needed to get through. I would say realistically it will be at least another week.

Hit me up and I'll give you the url...

346-940-591

OK , I am here to be counted, not as part of any group, they can speak for themselfes. I did not want to get involved in bad mouthing him because I have been paid !(well mostly still outstanding NSF charges) I had the same problem with Jeff everytime I have dealt with him. The Lies, the cheques sent, the never arriving wires with the phony tracking #'s .I had Given him chances so he can get his program off the ground, then had to chase him because he did not adhere to the time frame agreed. The only reason I had gotten paid is because I treathened to go public with the story. Jeff has purchased advertisements on my sites, these are paid for and will not be removed.
http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/
I also offered to run ads for him on a cash and carry basis only, when he asked, to counter the bad publicity! Please beware if you do any business with him, Neighter I or anyone else can guarantee that he will do as he says :2 cents:

Well, my ears are burning, and my icq is lighting up... so I suppose you are referring to me.

I have taken the time to get to know Jeff, and I have offered him advice on some of this past issues to help him get on the right track. I'm nice to everyone. Sorry, its my nature.

Jeff also owes a few of my friends money, and I'm trying to be patient about it. I'm positive it will be resolved without drama on a message board. For the record, I don't believe in kicking a man while he's down.

Steve Lightspeed

I agree with you on the bad mouthing part. I never threatened him with to go public, as I thought this may lead to him never paying her. I tried to act reasonalbe and proffesional this whole time. The final straw for me was today when I called him FROM THE BANK LOBBY IN FRONT OF THE TELLER and told him I was tired of the BS he told me to "fuck off!" This was the 2nd time I was at the bank, and AFTER he told us there was a $7.00 difference in his account. Between the first and second visit to the bank I had to go to my bank to withdrawl cash to put into his to try the check again (I rarely carry cash on me). I was prepared to go up to $100.00 deposit if I had to, but again, the teller said that STILL was not enough.

Thank you for posting man, I know it may have been a hard decision to come out with your problem with Jeff. We appreciate it very much.

Nothing against you, but I think he is kicking himself.

Am I getting ignored?


:)

I'm not kicking him while he is down. If I wanted to do that, I would have started this thread the day after we got back from Vegas. Steve you don't need the money, and were not repeatedly promised you would have it over and over......Arika was told all of this and more.

We have stood by while EVERYONE else has gottenpadi (and deservidly so). I had no problem with him paying those he owed more money to and for a linger period of time before he paid Arika. My problem is that he put her off because he knew he could, then he wrote a bad check. That's not kicking him while he's down, it's getting pushed aside, put off, the screwed.

And for the record, I don't think they were refering to you.

Steve you are a Gentlemen! You have helped me in this matter in the past, and I thank you for that. While I do not believe in kicking a man while he is down same as you, This situation must be dealt with so others do not end up being victimised. I had stayed out of all the other bashing threads hoping that the situation gets resolved.The poor model who is involved in this one does not deserve to be fucked around !

Nope, I was typing another response, sorry. I replied to your ICQ.

If he owes your girl money, then by all means it should be paid immediately. I have told Jeff to pay every bill the day he gets it. I wasn't criticizing you for posting your issues with Jeff. I was mearly commenting on why I haven't said much about Jeff's recent problems.

Good Luck to ya, when I talk to Jeff again I'll do my best to help you get everything sorted out right away.

Steve Lightspeed

JFK,

Arika says "Thank You". And I agree, although I have never pesronally met him, I too think Steve is a gentleman and a good business man. I passed him and a lovely lady he had with him. I could tell by the way he carried himself he was very confident and proffesional. I wanted to approach him to introduce myself, but I was not sure who he was he with. Maybe I'll get the chance in Florida this year.

Thanks for your help and support Steve!

as I said Steve is a Gentleman, and one of the most Straight and honest people in this biz:thumbsup

deja fucking vu

I like the Perfection Girls site(s) ... but the more I read the more I'm hesistant to do business with them.

Therefore, if anyone has recommendations on sites of that type, please post the sponsor link if you will (and feel free to include your referal code.) Thanks!

Huh?

Where do I fit in all of this Drama...eh?

Oh and I ALWAYS pay cash... UP FRONT ;-)

Hey Jman, hows the tats:winkwink:

Got another appointement this weekend. Getting pretty colorfull ;-)

She has deep brown eyes like Jordan:Graucho

"The more hesitant....." ??????

Dravyk....I'm going to send you a brick via fedex. I will instruct the delivery person to remove the brick and smack you in the head with it.

This perfectiongirls dude has problem after problem after problem after problem. After awhile, it's obvious where the real problem lies, and it isn't at the bank.

The problem with our business is that there are so few business people in it.

That sucks for the model.. the one thing that has helped us over the years is we always pay.. if not OVER pay the girls for the work they did, I guess that is why at purecash.com we have some of the hottest amateurs around.

I would hope Jeff would pay as I am sure he will.

Steve great seeing you in Vegas.. maybe we should get you to New Orleans soon !

Jeff is this how you really feel ??

Yes, after reading all this, we would also like to find some good alternatives. Jeff and his crew were very nice to us in Vegas, but it seems like he's a different kind of person than we thought :(

lol, trademark jeff, whatcha gonna do?

glad he at least paid the other designers of recent he owed.

Jeff is a likeable person, I still like him after all we went tru.He is Robbing Peter to pay Paul, trying to get his program going. He needs to get a partner with money to solidify his current affairs, pay up all the bills.This partner should control the pursestrings, and let Jeff do what he does best, finding cute new talent:2 cents:

Which one of the girls that he promotes did he actually find himself?

That's a pretty funny visual about the delivery person hitting Dravyk in the head with a brick.....sorry to interrupt the drama...but, I know and love Dravyk to pieces and I fear more for the brick than I do for Dravyk's head. LOL

Yeah, we are glad they got paid too. This is one reason we didn't push him harder to follow through faster. We knew there were people who were owed more and for longer than what he owed Arika.

I would trust him my enemies any day.