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Old 01-27-2004, 07:49 PM   #1
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FUCK!!! Super Brained Talking Parrot!

Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

By Alex Kirby
BBC News Online environment correspondent



Feathered prodigy: N'kisi leads the field
The finding of a parrot with an almost unparalleled power to communicate with people has brought scientists up short.
The bird, a captive African grey called N'kisi, has a vocabulary of 950 words, and shows signs of a sense of humour.

He invents his own words and phrases if he is confronted with novel ideas with which his existing repertoire cannot cope - just as a human child would do.

N'kisi's remarkable abilities, which are said to include telepathy, feature in the latest BBC Wildlife Magazine.

N'kisi is believed to be one of the most advanced users of human language in the animal world.

About 100 words are needed for half of all reading in English, so if N'kisi could read he would be able to cope with a wide range of material.

Polished wordsmith

He uses words in context, with past, present and future tenses, and is often inventive.

One N'kisi-ism was "flied" for "flew", and another "pretty smell medicine" to describe the aromatherapy oils used by his owner, an artist based in New York.

When he first met Dr Jane Goodall, the renowned chimpanzee expert, after seeing her in a picture with apes, N'kisi said: "Got a chimp?"


School's in: He is a willing learner
He appears to fancy himself as a humourist. When another parrot hung upside down from its perch, he commented: "You got to put this bird on the camera."

Dr Goodall says N'kisi's verbal fireworks are an "outstanding example of interspecies communication".

In an experiment, the bird and his owner were put in separate rooms and filmed as the artist opened random envelopes containing picture cards.

Analysis showed the parrot had used appropriate keywords three times more often than would be likely by chance.

Captives' frustrations

This was despite the researchers discounting responses like "What ya doing on the phone?" when N'kisi saw a card of a man with a telephone, and "Can I give you a hug?" with one of a couple embracing.

Professor Donald Broom, of the University of Cambridge's School of Veterinary Medicine, said: "The more we look at the cognitive abilities of animals, the more advanced they appear, and the biggest leap of all has been with parrots."

Alison Hales, of the World Parrot Trust, told BBC News Online: "N'kisi's amazing vocabulary and sense of humour should make everyone who has a pet parrot consider whether they are meeting its needs.

"They may not be able to ask directly, but parrots are long-lived, and a bit of research now could mean an improved quality of life for years."
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:53 PM   #2
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N'kisi's remarkable abilities, which are said to include telepathy, feature in the latest BBC Wildlife Magazine.

N'kisi is believed to be one of the most advanced users of human language in the animal world.
If he's using telepathy then he would be one of the most advanced users of human language in the human world as well
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:54 PM   #3
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:58 PM   #4
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bird talk good

there is your summery
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:06 PM   #5
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http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html

if you have real audio they have a clip
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:10 PM   #6
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If thats real its fucking incredible.
A parrot with much more advanced communication than my 18 month old.... and he's advanced for his age.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:17 PM   #7
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I've seen parrots and can also distinguish colors and shapes. It's nuts. Parrots are really hilarious. All of the parrots I have owned had really different personalities.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:29 PM   #8
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yeah but can he design a web page ?
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:32 PM   #9
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yeah but can he design a web page ?
No thats what the chimps are for.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:37 PM   #10
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...has a vocabulary of 950 words, and shows signs of a sense of humour.

He invents his own words and phrases if he is confronted with novel ideas with which his existing repertoire cannot cope - just as a human child would do.
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believed to be one of the most advanced users of human language in the animal world.

He uses words in context, with past, present and future tenses, and is often inventive.
Sounds a lot like George Bush...?
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:39 PM   #11
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Sounds a lot like George Bush...?

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Sounds a lot like George Bush...?
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I've seen parrots and can also distinguish colors and shapes. It's nuts. Parrots are really hilarious. All of the parrots I have owned had really different personalities.
I saw that.. a parrot being able to say "green key" when pointing at it. "orange ball" etc.. fucking nuts.. even though i've been insanely impressed by koko being able to sign and everything to actually HEAR AN ANIMAL talk cognitively is fucking scary.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:59 PM   #14
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especially from a bird.. you'd almost expect a chimp to be reasonably smart and act like a 1 year old or whatever, because they're so similar to us.. but a fucking bird.. it's crazy.
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Those African Greys are amazing birds. I'm not surprised
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http://www.sheldrake.org/nkisi/nkisi1_text.html

if you have real audio they have a clip
ahahaha.. it's even got the same accent and inflection as the chick.
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.......someone right now is buying a dozen birds, a dozen computers and teaching them to post on GFY.
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Thats amazing. I've always wanted a parrot
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Old 01-27-2004, 10:23 PM   #22
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Those African Greys are amazing birds. I'm not surprised
Ja! And these birds can live to be 100 or more!!! Can you imagine a smart ass bird living that long!

And BIG too. Some of the parrots I've seen were like 3 feet long with tail.

Some of the guys who were on battleships off the coast of S. America told me that there were times birds flying from off land were so damned big they set off the alarms shipwide.

One day he was on a flight deck on one of the carriers and a bird he said the size of a small plane landed on the ship. Big bright colors too. The captain ordered no one to shoot it.

Fuckin' nuts! Now if you really wanna be impressed, I could tell you some dolphin and octopus/squid experiments that would fuck your day up.

We don't even know the meaning of smart yet.
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Gimme a cracker, fucker! Squak!!
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thats pretty amazing. I have never seen a speaking parrot. I always thought it was a myth
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Parrots can be amazing birds

I have a 4 year old African Grey, while nowhere near as linguistically talented as N'kisi my bird Hugo has mastered about 90 - 100 phrases plus other single words and can use them correctly (and in context)

Hugo will ask to be feed, if he's been bad will say "Bad Bird, Very Bad Bidr, Get in your cage" When he wants affection he'll say "Gimmie a kiss"

Hugo will also ask for my son by name, imitiate the phone ringing (very hard to tell the difference between Hugo and the Phone), will ask "What ya doing"

Since Hugo lived in my office for a while he also cusses, if you do something he doesn't like he'll say "Bullshit"

Hugo and my 2.5 year old son also have short conversations - pretty funny
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Wow thats really cool. I wonder if after a few million years if humans don't destroy the world if parrots will evolve into being as intelligent as humans now... lol
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Parrots can be amazing birds

I have a 4 year old African Grey, while nowhere near as linguistically talented as N'kisi my bird Hugo has mastered about 90 - 100 phrases plus other single words and can use them correctly (and in context)

Hugo will ask to be feed, if he's been bad will say "Bad Bird, Very Bad Bidr, Get in your cage" When he wants affection he'll say "Gimmie a kiss"

Hugo will also ask for my son by name, imitiate the phone ringing (very hard to tell the difference between Hugo and the Phone), will ask "What ya doing"

Since Hugo lived in my office for a while he also cusses, if you do something he doesn't like he'll say "Bullshit"

Hugo and my 2.5 year old son also have short conversations - pretty funny
Vick, that's outstanding!!! That bird must be worth a fortune!

Funny you should mention it but mimicking birds like parrots often get their owners in deep shit by repeating words and phrases not for mixed company.

I remember a few years ago a new toy called 'Furby' that mimicked words and phrases in the household. Some people had them in their offices including people who worked in high security. Sure enough they had to have them dolls burned or stomped or something.
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104 yr old foul-mouth parrot mimics Churchill's wartime thoughts
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The inner thoughts of Britain's wartime leader Winston Churchill live on, thanks to the foul mouth of his 104-year-old parrot who lives at a garden centre in southeast England.

"F*** Hitler! F*** the Nazis!" says Charlie, a female blue and gold macaw which Churchill bought in 1937, two years before the outbreak of World War II in Europe.

"Parrots are remarkably adept at mimicking sounds and voices," says an article about Charlie in the February issue of Jack, a British men's magazine, which hits the newsstands on Thursday.

"So when Charlie gives her opinion of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, it is rendered with a Churchillian inflection," it said.

Following Churchill's death in 1965, Charlie was sold to pet shop owner Peter Oram, who keeps her at the garden centre in Reigate, Surrey, where she wanders around the grounds in summer but stays indoors in the winter.

"She is a very old parrot," Sylvia Martin, who works with Oram, told Jack. "She has become increasingly quarrelsome -- and, if the truth be told, is now looking a little scruffy."
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