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Old 01-26-2004, 03:31 AM   #1
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What kind of a jerkoff parent would let their 13 year old daughter do this?

This is fucking sick.

http://www.sandra-model.com/main.html

(for those who are worried, it's not kiddy porn, but pretty close)

I can't believe there are parents out ther who would let their daughter 'model' for sites like this.

Glamour modelling is one thing. But modelling in a thong or in your underwear? Come on. These people are catering to pedophiles and they know it.

Is this shit actually legal? All the whois info in the USA and it's hosted on EV1 servers (RackShack).

Anyone with some firepower want to take these fuckers down?
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:32 AM   #2
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:33 AM   #3
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:35 AM   #4
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This is really sick shit for sure
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:36 AM   #5
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uhh... actually.. that is kiddyporn how many of you have softcore porn with the same type clothing and poses?
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:38 AM   #6
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I'll take your word for it.

I don't even want to click that link.
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:39 AM   #7
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that's pretty close to kiddyporn, those parents who put their kids to work like that are crazy.
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:41 AM   #8
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that's pretty close to kiddyporn, those parents who put their kids to work like that are crazy.
I wonder if their server would appreciate this?
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:42 AM   #9
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I really have nothing more to say than the icon. Same goes to little kids who's parents dress them up like sluts for "beauty pagents".
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:44 AM   #11
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why did you link to it?

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This is fucking sick.


(for those who are worried, it's not kiddy porn, but pretty close)

I can't believe there are parents out ther who would let their daughter 'model' for sites like this.

Glamour modelling is one thing. But modelling in a thong or in your underwear? Come on. These people are catering to pedophiles and they know it.

Is this shit actually legal? All the whois info in the USA and it's hosted on EV1 servers (RackShack).

Anyone with some firepower want to take these fuckers down?
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Old 01-26-2004, 03:53 AM   #12
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Sad, but there are thousands of sites like this out there. And as long as there are fuckers promoting this stuff they will continue with it.
According to me it is just another way to justify cp. The parents should be assraped by bubba or something for doing this with their kids.
What I never understood is you need a license to drive a car, need to be at a certain age to drink or smoke, but every simple minded fool is allowed to get kids whenever they want

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Old 01-26-2004, 03:54 AM   #13
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why did you link to it?

So people could see it and hopefully take this fucker down.

That site is just sick. I wonder if it's her parents actually taking the pictures or a photographer they've hired.
Either way, the kid needs to be taken away from the parents and every adult involved needs to be put in a fucking jail.
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btw I wouldn't be suprised if, besides sexed, other webmasters over here promote stuff like this. There obviously is a lot of money to be made with this kind of stuff, and I think lots of people only care about the money.
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thats fucked up man... take them down
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Reported. Would anyone else like to report it as well? Here's the link.

http://www.asacp.org/reportsite.html
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correct, but this is ofcourse meant for the pedos in the society.
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those are some awfully suggestive poses for kids to be making ... and theres an entire network of em - heres the models wanted page http://www.amodelshop.com/business.html ... this is a loophole that its non-nude, but the bottom line is you know people are wanking off looking at little girls. that only feeds the minds of fucks that would actually do something with kids if they had a chance. I think maybe some parents dont know getting into this that it is sexually suggestive modeling (lots of parents want their little girls to be beauty queens) - but fuck how about a little parenting and going to the photoshoot and realizing this is not right. as far as im concerned this loophole, whatever the fuck it is (non-nude i guess) needs to be closed ... a few rules about sexually suggestive poses being illegal or something ...

id say authorities need to be alerted. Parents ought to be clubbed in the head with a baseball bat, but we all know how much effort it takes to be a parent = two idiots without a rubber. If i saw one of my nieces looking like this i would bitchslap the fuck out of whoever was involved.
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Bullshit, you can have porn without nudity. Thats porn, her parents should be locked up
You're talking out of your ass.
That site is legal.


Sad but true.
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Heres the problem...


Are all of the images sexually erotic or could they be used for sexual stimulation.


You can have a fully clothed child from head to toe and it be considered child pornography if it is meant to entice or gratify a sexual feeling or if the model is in sexually suggestive poses.



Now, the owners of this site live in Russia where it is legal to marry at 13 now, and the age of nudity for children is 13 if they are married, here in the USA of course it is different.


No, I dont agree with the site and fuck off flamers, but in reality, the USA does not control the internet and what is not legal here is legal in different countries.



I see MANY MANY things on websites such as scat and golden showers and fisting that is ILLEGAL in the USA but not in many other countries.


Then again, this deals with children so its worse.

But the problem is, the site in itself breaks no laws, but some of the images MIGHT.







Case and point, http://www.premium-ads.com
features magazine ads from all over the world of men, women and children in their underwear and a section on nude children.


I called their host and bitched like no one on here would believe.

Came to find out the webmaster and OWNER of that site is a San Diego Sheriff.

I sent links to the url to the DA's office, children and youth, the mayors office, it is still up.


Helmy's is not the internet police, all they do is forward the sites to the US Customs department who is actually in CHARGE of dealing with internet crimes, and when they find one they call the FBI to make an arrest. A little known fact everyone thinks that the FBI is in charge of computer crime, well they arent, the internet crosses national borders, hence it is the customs department.


Good luck though, if it was me, Id just call rack shack and show them the site and make them look at it while I had them on the phone.
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Not true at all, by a long shot.
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If she is underage, it should be labeled as "child porn". Even softcore images are labeled porn. For christ's sake, that's just wrong.
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That looks like kiddie porn to me... I don't know why a 12 year old would be sticking her ass out in a G string for any other purpose than porn.
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Now, the owners of this site live in Russia where it is legal to marry at 13 now

where did u get that info ?
last time i checked the marriage age was 17 with parents permission
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where did u get that info ?
last time i checked the marriage age was 17 with parents permission
Is checking on Russian laws part of your daily routin?
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Seems to me that we're all talking about what's on the tour, and we all agree that it's bad enough to warrant having someone at least take a look at it.

Has anyone actually gone inside?
I ask because I get the feeling a lot of these sites have explicit, suggestive, but non-nude TOURS - in order to keep the authorities at bay - but on the inside this girl might be full nude.

I for one am not willing to have that shit on my computer, so I'm not going inside. That's why I reported it to ASACP and in the notes I put exactly what I saw and suggested that *they* go inside and take a look.

Just think of the power a child porner could have if he made a tour like this that threw off enough people saying "well she's not nude so it's not porn" that they never reported it, then inside that poor little girl was in even WORSE photography or video.
The CPer would be sitting in gravy and laughing all the way to the bank.
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Is checking on Russian laws part of your daily routin?

I used to live in Russia.



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Hosted in US. Don't you think if the site was illegal it would have been down long ago ?

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I've just written an email to rackshack about this site. Would be good if some more webmasters could contact them for an official statement, maybe they take it down when they feel the heat.

CP, scammers, thieves etc. can only exist cause there are enough people that don't care about it.
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I am becoming increasingly concerned at the number of underage "non nude" sites that Verotel are processing for. This is not the only one.
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where did u get that info ?
last time i checked the marriage age was 17 with parents permission

My friend Roman lives in Russia, I think hed' know
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they are legal and you can't do anything about them. There are teen magazines with fashion sections that have sImilar photos....

Of course this doesn't mean these sites dont target pedophiles. I believe they do,it's obvious from the poses taken.

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they are legal and you can't do anything about them. There are teen magazines with fashion sections that have sImilar photos....

Of course this doesn't mean these sites dont target pedophiles. I believe they do,it's obvious from the poses taken.

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Very true, they are fully legal indeed (otherwise, all pictures of people under 18 would have to be banned).

The guy on that board is kinda right though. The fact that someone fantasizes about young teens does not mean he will actually become a child molestor.
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I believe the law in US dictates child porn as any type of pics or vids that could be considered sexually provoking nude or non-nude. which that site is trying to do... so I would imagine that site is illegal in the US.

maybe if it's not illegal it should be... but if not maybe some of the people here with servers at Rackshack (if it is on their servers)should tell them they are going to boycot their hosting unless the site is removed. That goes for any of those others aswell.. just a thought, because guys like this are the reason the legit guys get fucked over.. police our owen I say..
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Old 01-26-2004, 06:19 AM   #47
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true,but still anoying

i read there that verotel allows modeling sites,but they must tell in the tours that the age is 13y+

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Old 01-26-2004, 06:19 AM   #48
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Very true, they are fully legal indeed (otherwise, all pictures of people under 18 would have to be banned).

The guy on that board is kinda right though. The fact that someone fantasizes about young teens does not mean he will actually become a child molestor.
Maybe he won't, but this could also be a push to actually become one.
It's a bit two sided, but I still think this should be illigal, specially the way they pose is a bit fucked and aboviously meant to seduce the viewer in an erotic way.
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Old 01-26-2004, 06:21 AM   #49
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As a sidenote, I find it kinda funny that people who make money from 18 year olds getting fucked in every possible hole by dozens of guys can get offended by a fully dressed 16 or 17 year old.
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Old 01-26-2004, 06:21 AM   #50
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Why we are on the discussion.

Tell us all, the real story about your kid.


If you think its fun to make fun about my daughter dying then whatever, you did it on netpond untill someone posted the news link about it, go the fuck away and grow up.

Making fun of kids who have died is sure to win you major popularity points.

pr0 knows what happened to my daughter...

Keep singing your old tune ...
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