Good thing I'm not American well at least in the eyes of my countrymen here in Canada.

Again from my own personal observations (and I apologize for not having met every single American) I have found Americans extraordinarily friendly and helpful. When I've travelled through their country they have been fantastic, every single time.

Now when the Americans have been in Canada I find them being attacked immediately by our people and I know it is the same in Europe, again from experience.

I'm a Canuck that likes the U.S. and its people.

Arrogance

The act or habit of arrogating, or making undue claims in an overbearing manner; that species of pride which consists in exorbitant claims of rank, dignity, estimation, or power, or which exalts the worth or importance of the person to an undue degree; proud contempt of others; lordliness; haughtiness; self-assumption; presumption.


Arrogance as defined above does not help progress and it will have a direct negative impact on any person, group or entity that embraces.

America became the power it is by standing up to Arrogance. I.E. Britain and by embracing other cultures and the best of their ideas.

The bottom line is that cost is of course the main thrust of where outsourcing will go, however there are other determining factors that will effect it as well.

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I wouldn't credit America's power to be a result of it's war of independence from Britain. I'm confident that it would still be powerful even if it had lost.

Canada and Australia never fought a war of independence from Britain and they're both among the wealthiest countries in the world. How do you explain that?

America would still be powerful, no doubt, but not like it is today because the cash flow would have moved back into Britain. That is the problem with outsourcing, you will be moving your money even if it is less into another countries hands. As it moves towards and equlibrium it will be taken from the middle class and poor and spread out, not the rich.

As for Canada being wealthy, IMHO, Britain got knocked off her high horse and had to begin the process of treating the colonies better. Canada became more independant as a direct result of this. It most certainly wasn't from the Loyalists running into Upper Canada away from the War of Independance. Canada also had its chance to be much more influential and rich but instead chose to allow the English to bring back most of its profits back to England through the merchants who wanted nothing more than to exploit the new world.

I live in Canada and maybe you do to. Canada's economy is tied directly into America's. If the U.S. cuts us off, we're in the toilet instantly. Canada is day by day turning into a country to be used for cheap labour, there are posts on here all the time with respect to coming to Canada for cheap labour. I'm not surprised however we moved from being Englands bitch to being America's bitch.

Enter in Employment Agencies and you now bypass the Canadian Laws which protect the Worker. No paid holidays, wages at 9 to 12.50/hour and the employee can be removed no questions asked because they really don't work for the company they are doing services for. The employement agencies compete and lowball and it drives the wages down further. If your living in Toronto and making that kind of money you are a slave. You either don't have a life or you don't have anything at all. The sad thing is Toronto is where all the work is, I certainly hope this isn't the same kind of job creation that the States is now looking forward too, I can remember Cretien bragging about his job creation numbers. More like Slave Creation Numbers. Its a joke, eveyone moving here for a better life and then end up sinking themselves in debt with two cars, a 500k home and 2 to 3 jobs each so they can't enjoy their empty house.

The funny thing is that I can understand this and I am right of center in my politics.

Something similar to this happened right before the great depression.
Labor (American labor at this time) was dirt cheap. Huge corporations paid a pittance for factory workers to work ridiculously long hours in unsafe conditions.....and those people were happy to have the job because thier family got to live in a rat infested tenement housing project and share a bathroom with 10 other families rather than live on the street.

The real problems came when we had an industrial surplus....labor was cheap and factories were very productive....but, nobody could afford to buy the things the factory was producing because wages were so low.

The corporations had two choices, they could raise wages or lower their prices so that the "average american" could afford to buy their products and the cycle could continue.

Unfortunately they did neither, and a few years later the stock market crashed, banks failed, and 40% of the country was unemployed.

Hopefully somebody somewhere in power has the foresight to not let this happen again.
Dell might be able to get cheap tech support in India, but if nobody can afford to buy their computers then that won't matter much.

That's my :2 cents:

thats when USA goes in and bombs india, this is where ur wrong man!!!

Maybe for a little while longer it would have, but it wouldn't forever. Canada and Australia don't send money back to Britain. That all ended like 200 years ago, and they didn't have to fight a war to make it happen.

Well we continued to send money back into England for a much greater period of time then the States, that is for sure.

Regardless, the rich will only make more money off of the outsourcing which is great from a business perspective. As a country it is really going to hurt the U.S. and Canada's middle class. It already has.

how's outsourcing now?

it is likely