My thoughts exactly.

I did start a new thread..lol
Thats why I did it.

Disturbing. I feel its more the parents pushing the kids to get involved more than the kids themselves

I don't think any laws are being broken - Unfortunately.

Certainly, all legistlators have to do more work on tightening the laws for cp -

This is 100% catering for cp - Any webmaster running this sort of site has to be a pretty sad fuck -

I totally agree with some of the "take them out" comments -
There are enough people here who are 'skilled' in killing servers - Why don't they give it a shot?

It is about time we started working to a few rules in this biz - Sort of self-regulation, if you like - Getting rid of this stuff would be a nice start.
And boycotting verotel for taking their % would be a bonus...

Ofcourse its the parents, ever seen girls of this age spreading their legs like this? They should hang those folks or somethign

Yup, right up the shorts. If its not really showing anything it is certainly implying a LOT.

Fuckers are sick. This should be classified as exploitation and abuse IMHO. :ak47:

Not to be an asshole or anything, but yes. When I was 14, I fucked 14 year old girls who spread their legs like that. :2 cents:

Back to the question of legality.....

From the <a href="http://www.lexum.umontreal.ca/csc-scc/en/pub/2001/vol1/html/2001scr1_0045.html" TARGET="_blank">R v Sharpe decision in Canada</a>:
The underage modelling sites in question certainly approaches the line as far as Canadian law goes, at least in their free tours. There is definitely an obvious attempt at "sexiness" in the photos. I would have to say based on the tours alone they probably aren't illegal. However, if any more explicit photos containing exposed sexual areas of the girls are in the member's sections that would then cross the line of legality. In terms of what is child porn, at least by Canadian definition, simple nudity does in fact equal sex, and is considered an offense.



Aside from the legal question, I would also say that parents who advocate or allow their kids to present themselves in such a sexual way on the internet ought to be strung up and flogged publicly. If they wanted to start the girl on the path of a legitimate modelling career there are certainly more and less questionable ways to do it than this.

there are always the little sluts who are just fucked in the head :winkwink:

Anyway, check this out: http://www.sandra-model.com/about.html
-->The site is intended to promote Sandra's modeling career

Sure

Speaking of sick. I clicked on the "Forum" link on Sandra's site and I found this thread on it, talk about disturbing :(

http://pub42.ezboard.com/fams10829fr...icID=442.topic

I'll cut and paste the initial post from that thread -


Dream Date
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you could meet just one of the AMS models for dinner who would it be, and what would you talk about?

Courtney
Sandra
Lili
Adreana
Jenica
Tyler
Cammy
October
Tristin

wicked!!! we can all go signup for their affiliate program and make 35% on rebills!

:321GFY

lame.. both the site and verotel for processing the site.

:ak47:

ahh that shit is just wrong.

I didn't even see it until now, but they are offering wallpaper, and "free" video clips.

:BangBang:

True. Forgot about that.

Most boys start jerking off at 10-12. Girls usually start playing with other girls by 12-13 during sleepovers.

There's the ring leader below.. the supposed "help you teen model" company.. Anyone want to go kick some teeth in?
.. or maybe see what the host thinks?

:ak47:

modelshop.com Back-order this name


Registrant:
Action On-line, Inc (MODELSHOP10-DOM)
200 S. Hanley Rd. Suite 700
St. Louis, MO 63105
US

Domain Name: MODELSHOP.COM

Administrative Contact:
Dolan, James J (JJD575) [email protected]
Action Online, Inc.
200 S HANLEY RD STE 700
SAINT LOUIS, MO 63105-3428
US
314-726-4994 fax: 314-726-4928

Technical Contact:
Administrator, Domain (DA550) [email protected]
pair Networks
2403 Sidney St, Suite 510
Pittsburgh, PA 15203
US
+1 412 381 7247 fax: +1 412 381 9997

Record expires on 31-Jul-2006.
Record created on 01-Aug-1998.
Database last updated on 26-Jan-2004 10:13:41 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.RACKSHACK.NET 207.218.223.132
NS2.RACKSHACK.NET 207.218.223.162

This is the first time I've ever reported any site. Thanks for the link. That is just sick.

I agree with that

Those teen model sites have all been reported in the past. There was a case in Colorado where they attempted to prosecute one of the operators for cp and the jury ruled in favor of the web site owner that it wasn't cp.

i'm pretty sure even full on nudity is legal as long as the 12 year old isnt spreading her pussy or doing anything "erotic", there are a lot of nudist websites out there and they arent illegal.

- Seth

According to the letter of Canadian law at least, that would be quite illegal.

"visual representations the dominant characteristic of which is the depiction, for a sexual purpose, of a sexual organ or the anal region of a person under the age of 18 years."


Those sites are brimming with depicted "sexiness".... that is their main drawing card.

yes my point was the "for a sexual purpose" thing, and yes those same poses without clothes would be illegal. but i mean you could ge them naked as long as they werent grabbing their crotches and stuff and technically still be in the clear. BUT I cant imagine anyone that wants to put themselves on the edge like that, akin to the public flasher sites like nebcoeds where it could go either way depending on the mood of the judge or the makeup of the jury.

But why bother? theres too many super hot sluts over 18 you can abuse in every shape or form to mess with technicalities like this.

- Seth

The only reason I can think of parents would abuse their children like this is when they are in huge financial problems. But then still it's very wrong

I hope this shit won't last long....

btw that sandra model site doesn't load for me, it seems to be taken down allready? hopefully it is...

100 people disgusted at disguised child porn


that is sick and should be taken down asap :repuke

:321GFY

death penalty anyone?

I've skimmed over a few of the threads on the forum... there seems to be a recurring theme about "Tyler" and her excessive pubes. One thread mentions she is considering shaving them. This is a 12 year old girl!!!

I found one of the preview photos for Sandra to be quite disturbing. Either there is a crease in the material of her underpants due to her stance, or they are see-thru and it's the top of her labia. If it is a crease then I'm sure that particular image being chosen as the preview was no accident. If it's the real thing, well....

That thread about the dream date is fucking creepy.

I don't think there's any point in dwelling on the legalities of this site if you really want to do something.. let's just report them then get onto the real solution, I think time would be better spent going after their moralistic vulnerabilities.. rackshack, the domain server, their ip server. Surely there's something that can be done in one of these areas.

wtf

hey now, university is expensive these days

sick sick fucking sick!!

That link is dead for me... Did anyone take it down already...

Anyway, for what you guys are saying I'd just like to say thank you to whoever took that site down... :thumbsup

*Reported*


.....sick fuckin bastards :BangBang:

http://pub42.ezboard.com/fams10829fr...icID=473.topic

What they are saying in that thread .. There has gotta be some shit INSIDE the members area that is grey area if not definate child porn.

"I've always liked the semi-transparent dress/skirt/top with lighting from the rear. Kind'a peek-a-boo effect! Just a thought, butt with her legs the effect would be dazzzzzling.............. "

:BangBang: :ak47: :321GFY

:throwup

One of the pics was cameltoe in full effect, left very little to fantasize about. If any.

I reported the site too, but I'm sure it is useless, as it will still be here next year.

one of her lips is hanging out on the main page. the parents are the ones to blame.

These nonnude sites are pretty common. Not illegal as far as I know but frowned upon. And running one would definitely put you on the pedo watchlist.

Man I wish I didnt click on that :( I saw a whole special on one of the news programs about this - it's legal and the parents make money off it - SICK!!!!!! :321GFY :mad: :feels-hot

There was a piece done on this subject about a year ago. I don't remember what program it was or what network (I think it was 20/20). The story followed a mother and her 12 yo daughter around to these different photo shoots where the kid was piratically naked and the interviewer questioned the mother and scummy photographers and asked how they could do this.

What it all boils down to is that these parents are sick and will jeopardize their child for $$$, and it's completely legal with parents consent.

The story also explained and exposed that these sick photographers are also raping and taking naked pictures of these kids...fucking sick.

what's sad is that there's a whole chain of these sites :Oh crap

site is down