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Old 01-25-2004, 02:53 PM   #1
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Second page my ass!

Is there anyone out there that can explain to me, why some sponsors only show second page unique?
(I think I know the answer)
What good does it do me/you!?

I want to see how many surfers I produce...
The surfer will not go to the second page if:
1) The tour is over exposed
2) It's a shitty site/tour

Ether way, the sponsors should get their shit together and not show me how many of the surfers that for some reason finds the shitty tour top nodge, or just haven?t seen the tour before.

I wanna hear your comments!
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Old 01-25-2004, 02:57 PM   #2
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We only show front page hits..you should know exactly what you are sending as far as I'm concerned..
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Old 01-25-2004, 02:58 PM   #3
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Because out of the 1000's of webmasters they have the smart ones track their own clicks and the rest of the newbies think the ratio really is 1:250.
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Old 01-25-2004, 02:59 PM   #4
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In one point i think it's great to know how many second-page hits i've got. It gives me an idea of how the tour i'm pushing converts, and how many interested surfers i've sent.

I've been with one sponsor (IceColdCash i thought), and they only counted second-page hits. No first-page hits whatsoever. I didn't know that until i contacted them.

So, second-page stats are great, but only if first-page stats are there too
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Old 01-25-2004, 02:59 PM   #5
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i like it when a sponsor shows me first page clicks, 2nd page clicks, join page clicks, etc etc.. oxcash does that
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Old 01-25-2004, 03:01 PM   #6
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i like it when a sponsor shows me first page clicks, 2nd page clicks, join page clicks, etc etc.. oxcash does that

I agree..we are working on adding that as well..it's good information IMO..
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Old 01-25-2004, 03:06 PM   #7
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Shit.. I?ll comment this my self

The sponsor can always argue as to how many has made that second click. There is no way that I can track that my self!
Therefore? If a sponsor only shows second page? The sponsor must be fixing the numbers? any second page sponsors out there that would like to comment on that!?
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Old 01-25-2004, 03:07 PM   #8
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Agreed...
Second page stats rocks.. as long as the first page stats are there too!
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Old 01-25-2004, 03:11 PM   #9
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We show you first page uniques as well as second page uniques(Our tours are only 2 pages) as well as the click ratio from 1st to second page. This helps both you and me. It helps you because you actually see how many surfers have clicked to the tour and it helps both of to know how many clicked to the join page which let us both know whether the tour is effective.
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Old 01-25-2004, 03:16 PM   #10
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Because out of the 1000's of webmasters they have the smart ones track their own clicks and the rest of the newbies think the ratio really is 1:250.
i've been meaning to use a script to track hits for a long time, but which is the best one for the best price? or even free.
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Old 01-25-2004, 03:20 PM   #11
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Nice to see that there are some sponsors showing everything.. I would realy like to hear from some of them that only show second page, and why!?

come on.. you must have your reasons!
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Old 01-25-2004, 03:32 PM   #12
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The surfer will not go to the second page if:
1) The tour is over exposed
2) It's a shitty site/tour
agree with #2.....

Reason 1 is the single most erroneous and misconcieved
urban legend that afflicts us newbies...

overexposed=branding=familiarity=joins

its that simple
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