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Old 01-23-2004, 03:59 AM   #1
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Epic Cash

I haven't tried epic cash yet but after looking at some of their tours and sites, I might just start.

One question about Epic Cash first. How do they do with SE traffic ... more importantly google traffic. Their tours seems largely tgp style, so does anyone do well with their google traffic?
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Old 01-23-2004, 04:03 AM   #2
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... my google traffic converts at 1:65 with them. I am not too happy about that though.
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Old 01-23-2004, 04:11 AM   #3
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EpicCash supports Acacia, send your sales/traffic to someone who hasnt made a deal with the devil, http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/pr...edSponsors.pdf for a list of companies not to do business with!
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Old 01-23-2004, 04:12 AM   #4
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... my google traffic converts at 1:65 with them. I am not too happy about that though.
Could be better
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Old 01-23-2004, 04:26 AM   #5
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EpicCash supports Acacia, send your sales/traffic to someone who hasnt made a deal with the devil, http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/pr...edSponsors.pdf for a list of companies not to do business with!
Damn I was kinda looking forward to giving them a try, but since my own acacia letter I refuse to support anyone who helps fund the fight against me.

Hopefully they come around, as they have some promising tours I wouldn't mind trying.

thanks for the heads up notjoe.
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Old 01-23-2004, 05:00 AM   #6
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acacia sucks...
EC is smth different though...
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Old 01-23-2004, 06:36 AM   #7
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EpicCash supports Acacia, send your sales/traffic to someone who hasnt made a deal with the devil, http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/pr...edSponsors.pdf for a list of companies not to do business with!
EpicCash settled, which is far cry from "supports"! Your choice of words makes it sound like we believe in what they are doing, that's far from the case! We had to do what we saw was best choice under the given cirucumstance for us and our affiliates, but to make sound as if we are pro-acacia is a bunch of crap...

We pay taxes as well, but that doesn't mean we are pro-tax...

Many times unpleasant things must done in business to stay in business...period!

Now, back to the original topic, many of our sites do quite well with SE traffic, hit me up if you have any questions...
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EpicCash settled, which is far cry from "supports"!
Agreed, it means you're pussies
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Old 01-23-2004, 07:37 AM   #9
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We pay taxes as well, but that doesn't mean we are pro-tax...
LOL, that comment has been bothering me, it's so damned stupid that I'm going to have to reply.
Settling with Acacia is NOTHING like paying taxes.
Taxes are a fact of life, no getting round it. Not paying taxes also constitutes breaking the law. (I'll just ignore the fact that taxes go towards education, health care, infrastructure, etc, in other words for the improvement and maintenance of society, not into some opportunist's pocket)

There is no law stating that you have to pay your dues to Acacia. The sad thing is, that companies like you might change that. You are choosing to have your cake and eat it, and you're back-stabbing everybody that is taking a stand against a bunch of extortionists.
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Agreed, it means you're pussies

No it means we chose what we saw as the best route for our business...
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There is no law stating that you have to pay your dues to Acacia.
Tell that to Scorescash...
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Tell that to Scorescash...
Another cop-out? How surprising
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EpicCash settled, which is far cry from "supports"! Your choice of words makes it sound like we believe in what they are doing, that's far from the case! We had to do what we saw was best choice under the given cirucumstance for us and our affiliates, but to make sound as if we are pro-acacia is a bunch of crap...

We pay taxes as well, but that doesn't mean we are pro-tax...

Many times unpleasant things must done in business to stay in business...period!

Now, back to the original topic, many of our sites do quite well with SE traffic, hit me up if you have any questions...
You pay them. They use the money they receive from you to go after others, and that isnt supporting them?

I could pay my x-wife money, to feed the kids and i would be supporting her would i not? Is it not the same?

Customers who pay me monthly for my feeds support my company, just like companies who pay them support them and their actions. People may not like me but as long as they give me business they're supporting me.

By your own logic then, a webmaster who doesnt like EC yet still sends them traffic would NOT be supporting EC but a webmaster who likes EC and sends them traffic WOULD be supporting EC? Explain this please.

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Another cop-out? How surprising
How is that a cop-out?
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How is that a cop-out?
OK, call it a smokescreen then, whatever floats your boat.
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OK, call it a smokescreen then, whatever floats your boat.
Smokescreen?

You said that there is no law stating that you have to pay your dues to Acacia and they were shut down because they ignored THE LAW and Acacia...
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Smokescreen?

You said that there is no law stating that you have to pay your dues to Acacia and they were shut down because they ignored THE LAW and Acacia...
Since you seem to have ignored my previous post i'll restate the questions again!


You pay them. They use the money they receive from you to go after others, and that isnt supporting them?

I could pay my x-wife money, to feed the kids and i would be supporting her would i not? Is it not the same?

Customers who pay me monthly for my feeds support my company, just like companies who pay them support them and their actions. People may not like me but as long as they give me business they're supporting me.

By your own logic then, a webmaster who doesnt like EC yet still sends them traffic would NOT be supporting EC but a webmaster who likes EC and sends them traffic WOULD be supporting EC? Explain this please.
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Since you seem to have ignored my previous post i'll restate the questions again!


You pay them. They use the money they receive from you to go after others, and that isnt supporting them?

I could pay my x-wife money, to feed the kids and i would be supporting her would i not? Is it not the same?

Customers who pay me monthly for my feeds support my company, just like companies who pay them support them and their actions. People may not like me but as long as they give me business they're supporting me.

By your own logic then, a webmaster who doesnt like EC yet still sends them traffic would NOT be supporting EC but a webmaster who likes EC and sends them traffic WOULD be supporting EC? Explain this please.

Sorry, I over looked it the first time... I guess it comes down to how you want to define "support"?

The point I was making is that we don't agree with what they are doing, but we our decided that from a business point of view the best option for us was to settle...
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Sorry, I over looked it the first time... I guess it comes down to how you want to define "support"?

The point I was making is that we don't agree with what they are doing, but we our decided that from a business point of view the best option for us was to settle...
So you do admit what EC has done does infact support them (maybe not morally but with money and market share), That it helps Acacia to become bigger, adds more money to Acacia's account, gives them more of a foot hole and the right to say "EC signed on as well, along with all these other guys", However, you just dont like them?

Usually when someone doesnt like the way someone runs their business they dont do business with them. A prime example would be Trey's dislike for me and his failure to pay his finial invoice. So he fucked me for a couple hundred bucks, no biggy. He fucks a small company out of a couple of hundred when they have a legitimate reason to the money but he'll hand out a few points of his biz to someone who is clearly in the wrong/has yet to test the waters with their patent? Interesting.


He must have a smaller set of balls then he leads on. Kind of like those little yappy dogs who think they're all big until you step on and squash them.
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what about the 30 other sponsors that settled with acacia notjoe? hell one of them even fired you for stealing email lists from them.. remember that? the only reason you are even in this thread joejoe is that you have a problem with me because I never paid you for when you shut off my feeds without warning cause I called you a faggot or some shit. That is all fine and dandy, but dont be a hypocrite and single us out and support the others that settled.
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Tell that to Scorescash...
Tell Scores Cash to pay me the money they owe me...
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Tell Scores Cash to pay me the money they owe me...
how can they? they went out of business because they fucked with acacia and lost didnt they?
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I haven't tried epic cash yet but after looking at some of their tours and sites, I might just start.

One question about Epic Cash first. How do they do with SE traffic ... more importantly google traffic. Their tours seems largely tgp style, so does anyone do well with their google traffic?
Their sites convert great on TGP traffic, so they should do much better on Google traffic!

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What I don't understand about these acacia threads is half the time I see people bad mouthing one company for settling and they have another company that settled in there sig. Oh well beats me.
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What I don't understand about these acacia threads is half the time I see people bad mouthing one company for settling and they have another company that settled in there sig. Oh well beats me.
Ironic isn't it...
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Ironic isn't it...
Well it's typical most people don't read facts before they make judgement......
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