Why is it so fucking cold?

[Rictor]

I'm freezing my ass off. Anyone want to rent me their place in Florida for the winter?

[Stewie]

Been beautiful here in AZ all week!

[Babaganoosh]

Global warming is horseshit.

[Rictor]

Yah, I wish the ice caps would hurry up and melt. Maybe I'd have beach front property then.

[mech]

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Global warming is horseshit.

Yeah you're right, a week of abnormally cold weather certainly puts that myth to rest.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally posted by mech
Yeah you're right, a week of abnormally cold weather certainly puts that myth to rest.

Shut up retard. I fucking hate people who take a remark made in jest seriously.

[Buff]

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered


Shut up retard. I fucking hate people who take a remark made in jest seriously.

You were right. It is bullshit. The Earth is still cooling.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally posted by Buff


You were right. It is bullshit. The Earth is still cooling.

Heh, I don't care. I will be dead long before it's an issue.

[Ross]

Next week is supposed to be the coldest week so far this winter for us. Also we'll be getting some snow. Yey!!

[jasmine]

Its freezing here too! Don't wanna even go outside to check the mail

[mech]

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered


Shut up retard. I fucking hate people who take a remark made in jest seriously.

Then don't add a if you don't want people to take your comments seriously.

[sperbonzo]

Originally posted by Rictor
I'm freezing my ass off. Anyone want to rent me their place in Florida for the winter?

You wouldn't want to be in South Florida right now buddy! The temps are plunging into the high 60s! We're DYING down here!

[GonePhishing]

I think it's the coldest day of the winter so far in Chicago.

[beemk]

yeah it was decent all year until these past few weeks.

[CDSmith]

If it is not -20 or lower where you are, shut the fuck up about how "cold" you think it is.

[Scott McD]

Originally posted by Rictor
I'm freezing my ass off. Anyone want to rent me their place in Florida for the winter?

And you were telling us to come to America...

[Nikoleta]

so freezing cold here

[Babaganoosh]

Originally posted by mech
Then don't add a if you don't want people to take your comments seriously.

Okay, so means I am not kidding. I will make a note of that. Let me try it

Fuck you, numbnuts

[valley hina]

it is really windy outside my home

[LadyMischief]

The Earth is a closed system.. Global warming is pretty much bullshit, and almost all weather upswings and temperature changes are part of a cycle that has been going on since long before documented history. The "shocking and upsetting" weather trends that people use to uphold the global warming theory are actually not at all unusual in earth's climatological history, and are in actuality part of a cycle.

http://users.erols.com/dhoyt1/
http://www.aim.org/publications/brie...27mar2002.html
http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=212
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/skaw/globalwarming.html
http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/gccour...2/seedsci.html

[mech]

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered


Okay, so means I am not kidding. I will make a note of that. Let me try it

Fuck you, numbnuts

[sperbonzo]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
The Earth is a closed system.. Global warming is pretty much bullshit, and almost all weather upswings and temperature changes are part of a cycle that has been going on since long before documented history. The "shocking and upsetting" weather trends that people use to uphold the global warming theory are actually not at all unusual in earth's climatological history, and are in actuality part of a cycle.

http://users.erols.com/dhoyt1/
http://www.aim.org/publications/brie...27mar2002.html
http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=212
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/skaw/globalwarming.html
http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/gccour...2/seedsci.html

SHHHHH!!! Don't say that! Do you know how much money and goverment grants would go away if global warming wasn't real? Not to mention TV time for people that would normally remain completely unknown! Don't rock the boat here!

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by sperbonzo


SHHHHH!!! Don't say that! Do you know how much money and goverment grants would go away if global warming wasn't real? Not to mention TV time for people that would normally remain completely unknown! Don't rock the boat here!

That's pretty much the brunt of it. Research is generally funded by the government. so the results are hugely influenced by politics. They have to have SOMETHING to scare voters with BESIDES national security...


Don't they? :P

[Rictor]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
The Earth is a closed system.. Global warming is pretty much bullshit, and almost all weather upswings and temperature changes are part of a cycle that has been going on since long before documented history. The "shocking and upsetting" weather trends that people use to uphold the global warming theory are actually not at all unusual in earth's climatological history, and are in actuality part of a cycle.

http://users.erols.com/dhoyt1/
http://www.aim.org/publications/brie...27mar2002.html
http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=212
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/skaw/globalwarming.html
http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/gccour...2/seedsci.html

That's not what they taught us in my environmental geology courses. :P

[Rictor]

Wait, so that huge hole in the ozone layer isn't real either?

[sperbonzo]

Originally posted by LadyMischief


That's pretty much the brunt of it. Research is generally funded by the government. so the results are hugely influenced by politics. They have to have SOMETHING to scare voters with BESIDES national security...


Don't they? :P

Not only that....they make MASSIVE amounts of money from private and corporate grants.....I mean tens of millions of dollars. Plus the advertising for more money from schools, etc....

It's a HUGE business.

[sperbonzo]

Originally posted by Rictor
Wait, so that huge hole in the ozone layer isn't real either?

that hole in the ozone layer......that was made by the CFC gases released by human activity....right?

hmmmm....funny thing. The Mount Penetubo eruption in the 80s released 1000 times more CFCs than the whole of human civilization COMBINED.

So humans have produced one thousandth of the CFCs of ONE volcanic eruption, but WE are responsible for the fluctuations of the ozone layer....right?




People need to get over themselves. The earth will go through her cycles with or without us, and all we can do is just hold on like a bunch of fleas and hope.

The scientific panic mongers are just looking for money and publicity. Don't buy it

[Carrie]

Wow. There really IS intelligent life on GFY.
I thought I was the only one who knew that global warming was bullshit..... I AM NOT ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by Rictor
Wait, so that huge hole in the ozone layer isn't real either?

I'm not going to say that environmental polution doesn't contribute negatively to a world climatic system. However, to blame the current cycle of global warming on human intervention alone is shortsighted, and frankly, wrong.

Think about the change in climate since the "last Ice Age", which, if you want to get technical, we are still in. The last Ice age was merely the most recent surger in a boom-and-bust cycle of glaciations and deglaciations going back some 2.6 milllion years. It's this longer cycle that is really the Ice Age. The process of deglaciation after 17,000 years ago was extremely rapid, being largely over within 10,000 years, but not far beyond the norm set by previous deglaciations. Likewise, the relatively congenial conditions that we have enjoyed during the 7000 years since then are perhaps a little better than those in some previous interglacials, but not spectacularly so. The rise in world temperature is actually a normally functioning part of this cycle of world deglaciation.

Many factors can affect this change, earth's precessional cycles, asteroid/comet terrestrial impact, volcanism, shifts in the earth's mantle. Like I said, the entire global warming process is most CERTAINLY not the work of insignificant little humans, but part of a much larger process. Sure, what we do can be destructive to the environment, and can contribute in a NEGATIVE WAY to global climate, but it is BY NO MEANS the reason. That would be like saying a running hose would be fully responsible for an entire city flooding (when it was really caused by rain).

[hudson]

Originally posted by LadyMischief


I'm not going to say that environmental polution doesn't contribute negatively to a world climatic system. However, to blame the current cycle of global warming on human intervention alone is shortsighted, and frankly, wrong.

Think about the change in climate since the "last Ice Age", which, if you want to get technical, we are still in. The last Ice age was merely the most recent surger in a boom-and-bust cycle of glaciations and deglaciations going back some 2.6 milllion years. It's this longer cycle that is really the Ice Age. The process of deglaciation after 17,000 years ago was extremely rapid, being largely over within 10,000 years, but not far beyond the norm set by previous deglaciations. Likewise, the relatively congenial conditions that we have enjoyed during the 7000 years since then are perhaps a little better than those in some previous interglacials, but not spectacularly so. The rise in world temperature is actually a normally functioning part of this cycle of world deglaciation.

Many factors can affect this change, earth's precessional cycles, asteroid/comet terrestrial impact, volcanism, shifts in the earth's mantle. Like I said, the entire global warming process is most CERTAINLY not the work of insignificant little humans, but part of a much larger process. Sure, what we do can be destructive to the environment, and can contribute in a NEGATIVE WAY to global climate, but it is BY NO MEANS the reason. That would be like saying a running hose would be fully responsible for an entire city flooding (when it was really caused by rain).

can anyone spell r-e-p-u-b-l-i-c-a-n

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by hudson


can anyone spell r-e-p-u-b-l-i-c-a-n

Lol.. no I'm a science geek who does entirely too much research.. Actually the change in world climate is a satellite study to some archeological research I've been doing regarding ancient Sumer and various archeological sites there. Has to do with certain sites currently being below sea level in areas that were formerly inhabited, but due to deglaciation and rising sea levels are now submerged...

Blah blah blah :P

[Honeyslut]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ent_cooling_dc

[hudson]

Originally posted by LadyMischief


Lol.. no I'm a science geek who does entirely too much research.. Actually the change in world climate is a satellite study to some archeological research I've been doing regarding ancient Sumer and various archeological sites there. Has to do with certain sites currently being below sea level in areas that were formerly inhabited, but due to deglaciation and rising sea levels are now submerged...

Blah blah blah :P

Ah, sorry LadyMischief! Just, my gut reaction to global warming is to look around at so much human caused stuff...factories, cars, heating, etc...it just seems so overwhelmingly the cause, but maybe I'm wrong.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by hudson


Ah, sorry LadyMischief! Just, my gut reaction to global warming is to look around at so much human caused stuff...factories, cars, heating, etc...it just seems so overwhelmingly the cause, but maybe I'm wrong.

It's people who assume that humanity's impact on the environment is the CAUSE of global climate change that are incorrect. I'm not saying the effects aren't there, but certainly not on the scale that many are trying to make the masses believe. All it takes it a little actual research into the subject, instead of spouting the crap that's fed to us by a politically-influenced media to know better.

I highly doubt that even in my children's lifetime would mere human existance be the catalyst for something as massive as deglaciation and global warming. As I've said, it's pretty plain to anyone who looks beyond the last thousand years (such as most modern scientists who have a hardon only for data compiled in the last few centuries) about the scale of what's going on. And it's a process that would happen with or without human intervention, as it has in the past.

[hudson]

Originally posted by LadyMischief


It's people who assume that humanity's impact on the environment is the CAUSE of global climate change that are incorrect. I'm not saying the effects aren't there, but certainly not on the scale that many are trying to make the masses believe. All it takes it a little actual research into the subject, instead of spouting the crap that's fed to us by a politically-influenced media to know better.

I highly doubt that even in my children's lifetime would mere human existance be the catalyst for something as massive as deglaciation and global warming. As I've said, it's pretty plain to anyone who looks beyond the last thousand years (such as most modern scientists who have a hardon only for data compiled in the last few centuries) about the scale of what's going on. And it's a process that would happen with or without human intervention, as it has in the past.

ok, but common sense says if you have millions of cars burning gas and factories burning coal and homes burning heating oil and electric factories creating power, etc, etc...you got to be pumping some major heat into the environment not to mention stuff like ozone depleting chemicals.

[laura99]

All I know is it's 7 fucking degrees and I'm freezingggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg!

[Libertine]

Originally posted by hudson


ok, but common sense says if you have millions of cars burning gas and factories burning coal and homes burning heating oil and electric factories creating power, etc, etc...you got to be pumping some major heat into the environment not to mention stuff like ozone depleting chemicals.

Common sense has no place in science and your idea of what global warming holds is wrong. (it isn't about the heat we produce, it's about the CO₂ we release that supposedly causes a greenhouse-like effect)



Nonetheless, even though global warming is indeed probably not caused by humans, there is a risk we are taking, namely the risk of disturbing a balance of which we don't know how delicate it is or causing a chain reaction.
We are not just using immense amounts of fossile fuels, we are also rapidly destroying the rain forests and (more importantly) polluting the oceans. So, we are not only releasing loads of extra carbondioxide, we are also decreasing the amount of carbondioxide the environment can absorb.

Now, by itself this isn't even close to enough for global warming. However, add it to the existing cycle and it may well have just enough effect to tip the balance or create a chain reaction (there are several theories right now that state that a warmer earth will have an even warmer earth as an effect, among other things by causing a release of carbondioxide instead of intake of it by the oceans, I won't go into the details but it's fairly credible).

Now, the earth will survive, no matter what we do. Live will continue to exist, and humanity probably will as well. We just risk making things rather unpleasant for ourselves. The risk may be a small one, but one could argue that the possible effects outweigh it. Earth is a big thing to gamble with