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Rictor · 01-22-2004, 11:19 AM

More Suits Filed Vs. Music Downloaders

Jan 21, 4:37 PM (ET)
By TED BRIDIS

WASHINGTON (AP) - The recording industry on Wednesday sued 532 computer users it said were illegally distributing songs over the Internet, the first lawsuits since a federal appeals court blocked the use of special copyright subpoenas to identify those being targeted.

The action represents the largest number of lawsuits filed at one time since the trade group for the largest music labels, the Recording Industry Association of America, launched its legal campaign last summer to cripple Internet music piracy.

Music lawyers filed the newest cases against "John Doe" defendants - identified only by their numeric Internet protocol addresses - and expected to work through the courts to learn their names and where they live. All the defendants were customers of one of four Internet providers.

The 532 new defendants represent a tiny fraction of the estimated tens of millions of U.S. computer users who regularly download music illegally across the Internet, but the recording association described each one as a "major offender," distributing an average of more than 800 songs online. Each defendant faces potential civil penalties or settlements that could cost them thousands of dollars.

The resumed legal campaign was intended to discourage music fans emboldened by last month's federal appeals court decision, which dramatically increased the cost and effort to track computer users swapping songs online and sue them.

"Our campaign against illegal file sharers is not missing a beat," said Cary Sherman, president of the recording association. "The message to illegal file sharers should be as clear as ever."

All 532 lawsuits were filed in Washington and New York - home to Verizon Internet Services Inc., Time Warner Inc. and a few other prominent Internet providers - although the recording association said it expects to discover through traditional subpoenas that these defendants live across the United States.

"These are soccer moms, immigrant families, just ordinary citizens trying to reap the benefits of what appears to them to be nifty technology," said Jay Flemma, a New York lawyer who represented eight people sued in previous rounds by the music industry. "They're scared and they're frustrated and they really don't understand the nuances of copyright law."

The RIAA said that after its lawyers discover the identity of each defendant, they will contact each person to negotiate a financial settlement before amending the lawsuit to formally name the defendant and, if necessary, transfer the case to the proper courthouse. Settlements in previous cases have averaged $3,000 each.

Verizon had successfully challenged the industry's use of copyright subpoenas, one of its most effective tools to track illegal downloaders. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled last month that the recording industry can't use the subpoenas to force Internet providers to identify music downloaders without filing a lawsuit.

The court said the copyright subpoena process available under the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act "betrays no awareness whatsoever that Internet users might be able directly to exchange files containing copyrighted works."

The appeals decision and Wednesday's new lawsuits threw into legal limbo hundreds of computer users previously identified as illegal downloaders.

The RIAA said that, for now, it will not file new lawsuits or demand new financial settlements against computer users whose names were previously turned over under the disputed copyright subpoenas. But it did not rule out filing "John Doe" lawsuits against those same computer users - even though it already knows their identities.

"We will not be making any use of the names previously disclosed to us," Sherman said.

liquidmoe · 01-22-2004, 12:41 PM

Does anyone have news how any of the original law suits ended or were settled?

Babagirls · 01-22-2004, 12:49 PM

ya know what, i think the courts of america have bigger things to do than to send little bobby, age 11, in a fuckin court room for downloading "Wanksta" by 50 Cent on Kazaa!!!

It takes forever to get a divorce, we have a million other criminal hearings, and now we want to jam the court system even more??

THE RADIO BROADCASTS THE SAME FUCKIN SONGS THAT ARE DOWNLOADED! WHAT HAPPEND WHEN BACK IN THE DAY, WE WOULD RECORD OUR FAVORITE SONGS ON CASSETTE?!!! ITS THE SAME FUCKIN THING!

Volantt · 01-22-2004, 01:21 PM

They are suing people under "John Doe" which means they do not know the true identities of the individuals. This doesn't mean they can not find out who owns the ip address.

It is more of a publicity stunt. If they press it they can obtain the identities but I don't think they will. IMHO

V

Smokey The Bear · 01-22-2004, 01:38 PM

More pure crap from riaa.

If they spent half as much time whining about kids getting a few cd's for free as they did PROGRESSING in the industry they would have already figured a way to " GIVE THE MUSIC AWAY FOR FREE " and still make a hefty buck

How about a computer mp3 player than will play ANY song ever made for free as long as you view an ad while your listening to it. ( possibly even the latest music video or something along that line ) , or just rent out the ad space like google adwords.

I would watch all the latest dvd's if they played a Picture in picture ad or scrollling ads along the bottom

beemk · 01-22-2004, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by *Smokey The Bear*
More pure crap from riaa.

If they spent half as much time whining about kids getting a few cd's for free as they did PROGRESSING in the industry they would have already figured a way to " GIVE THE MUSIC AWAY FOR FREE " and still make a hefty buck

How about a computer mp3 player than will play ANY song ever made for free as long as you view an ad while your listening to it. ( possibly even the latest music video or something along that line ) , or just rent out the ad space like google adwords.

I would watch all the latest dvd's if they played a Picture in picture ad or scrollling ads along the bottom

someone would hack out the ad, guranteed.

01-22-2004, 11:19 AM	#1
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Another 532 mp3 traders sued More Suits Filed Vs. Music Downloaders Jan 21, 4:37 PM (ET) By TED BRIDIS WASHINGTON (AP) - The recording industry on Wednesday sued 532 computer users it said were illegally distributing songs over the Internet, the first lawsuits since a federal appeals court blocked the use of special copyright subpoenas to identify those being targeted. The action represents the largest number of lawsuits filed at one time since the trade group for the largest music labels, the Recording Industry Association of America, launched its legal campaign last summer to cripple Internet music piracy. Music lawyers filed the newest cases against "John Doe" defendants - identified only by their numeric Internet protocol addresses - and expected to work through the courts to learn their names and where they live. All the defendants were customers of one of four Internet providers. The 532 new defendants represent a tiny fraction of the estimated tens of millions of U.S. computer users who regularly download music illegally across the Internet, but the recording association described each one as a "major offender," distributing an average of more than 800 songs online. Each defendant faces potential civil penalties or settlements that could cost them thousands of dollars. The resumed legal campaign was intended to discourage music fans emboldened by last month's federal appeals court decision, which dramatically increased the cost and effort to track computer users swapping songs online and sue them. "Our campaign against illegal file sharers is not missing a beat," said Cary Sherman, president of the recording association. "The message to illegal file sharers should be as clear as ever." All 532 lawsuits were filed in Washington and New York - home to Verizon Internet Services Inc., Time Warner Inc. and a few other prominent Internet providers - although the recording association said it expects to discover through traditional subpoenas that these defendants live across the United States. "These are soccer moms, immigrant families, just ordinary citizens trying to reap the benefits of what appears to them to be nifty technology," said Jay Flemma, a New York lawyer who represented eight people sued in previous rounds by the music industry. "They're scared and they're frustrated and they really don't understand the nuances of copyright law." The RIAA said that after its lawyers discover the identity of each defendant, they will contact each person to negotiate a financial settlement before amending the lawsuit to formally name the defendant and, if necessary, transfer the case to the proper courthouse. Settlements in previous cases have averaged $3,000 each. Verizon had successfully challenged the industry's use of copyright subpoenas, one of its most effective tools to track illegal downloaders. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled last month that the recording industry can't use the subpoenas to force Internet providers to identify music downloaders without filing a lawsuit. The court said the copyright subpoena process available under the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act "betrays no awareness whatsoever that Internet users might be able directly to exchange files containing copyrighted works." The appeals decision and Wednesday's new lawsuits threw into legal limbo hundreds of computer users previously identified as illegal downloaders. The RIAA said that, for now, it will not file new lawsuits or demand new financial settlements against computer users whose names were previously turned over under the disputed copyright subpoenas. But it did not rule out filing "John Doe" lawsuits against those same computer users - even though it already knows their identities. "We will not be making any use of the names previously disclosed to us," Sherman said.

01-22-2004, 12:41 PM	#2
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01-22-2004, 01:21 PM	#4
Volantt Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Penguin vs Devil Posts: 745	They are suing people under "John Doe" which means they do not know the true identities of the individuals. This doesn't mean they can not find out who owns the ip address. It is more of a publicity stunt. If they press it they can obtain the identities but I don't think they will. IMHO V __________________ "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato "In the abscence of orders, go find something and kill it." - Erwin Rommel "A man's worth is no greater then the worth of his ambitions." - Marcus Aurelius

01-22-2004, 01:38 PM	#5
Smokey The Bear So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: South Of Heaven™ Posts: 3,880	More pure crap from riaa. If they spent half as much time whining about kids getting a few cd's for free as they did PROGRESSING in the industry they would have already figured a way to " GIVE THE MUSIC AWAY FOR FREE " and still make a hefty buck How about a computer mp3 player than will play ANY song ever made for free as long as you view an ad while your listening to it. ( possibly even the latest music video or something along that line ) , or just rent out the ad space like google adwords. I would watch all the latest dvd's if they played a Picture in picture ad or scrollling ads along the bottom