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RockDaddy 01-22-2004 09:24 AM

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I'll even let you hold the remote sometimes
That's just one step away from buying her a strap on and some anal lube :moon

You are in serious violation of the manly man code

Tala 01-22-2004 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Take it any way you want it. You asked, all I'm saying is I have space. :D


I'll even let you hold the remote sometimes.

Mmmm...:)



Do I get to push buttons on the remote, or just hold it? :)

ColBigBalls 01-22-2004 09:32 AM

Hey bring your american money up to canada... :glugglug
boost our economy and fuck you dollar even more =):Graucho

See G.W. isent bad. Hes just a canadian spy sent to rebuild our dollar ! :1orglaugh

Sarah_Jayne 01-22-2004 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by Tipsy


You are mistaken on that point. You can always marry someone though and get a visa to live in the UK that way :)

and even then it ain't easy and you better not tell them you are coming into the country to get married - especially if you met on the 'net as many do these days.

Lets see, first I came over on a student work visa which was valid for 6 months. I got a stamp at the airport in my passport ordering me to go to my local police department and register. I had to get a job with in a certain amount of time but the people I got the job with had to show why a Brit couldn't do the job. So, I ended up as a 'north american travel specialist' at a travel agency.

The police department gave me a green booklet that I had to get my boss to fill in and then I had to take it back to the police station and register my job. If I had changed my job in that 6 months I would of had to go back and register the change.

I also ( the order is bit faded in my mind) had to go to jupiter house in London and get some more paperwork that give me solid permission to stay for six months. I had to basiclly give them bits of my liver to prove I wasn't going to break the law. Meanwhile two guys next to me at the row of desks were from Turkey. The guy who was being interviewed, didn't speak English AND came over on his BROTHER''s passport and was allowed in.

After six months I married my british husband and then it was off to Lunar house in Croydon ( I HATE this place) to register our marriage and apply for permanent stay. This place is insane. It is where all the assylum cases go as soon as they land/arrive in London which means everyone from Heathrow and Gatwick. The line starts outside the building, we got there at 6:30am - they didn't open until 9am - and there were already 500 people in the line. Apparently the first person had lined up at 10pm the night before.

Once in there we had to 'prove we loved each other' and provide a zillion banks statements (to show I had my own means of support) and letters coming to the house with my name on it, etc. About five hours after walking in the door they gave me temporary residence and said I had to come back a year later when they could grant permenant residency.

This time, the woman next to me was from Iran. She was black and blue all over her face. She said she had been married but she tried to get a divorce. Her husband stole her passport and went back to Iran. She showed them letters from his family saying that if she returned to Iran they would kill her. I watched her cry as they said she had to go back.

Then a year into our marriage we went back and the line outside Lunar House was still long but luckily we got in that day. We were seen at the window three hours after being let in and we were told that our case was good BUT that I only brought two bankstatements and apparently now I needed three. Oh, I could go get them but they were closing in two hours.

Well, we don't drive and this is on the otherside of London. I jumped on a train, ran into the house - I don't run - found another statement and luckily as I ran out of the house my mother in law's car drove past the door. I threw myself into her path and begged her to drive me to Croydon. She sped all the way to Croydon, I ran down the hill to Lunar House, they wouldn't let me back in because they were about to close but I was allowed to hand my husand the statement through the door.

Next I saw him he had my passport in hand with my tressured green card that grants me residency forever. This means that I can live and work here and own a buisness, etc. Also, after five years had passed (It is now a bit over 7 for me) I was allowed to vote and if I needed to draw benefits I could.

All of that and it was only that EASY because my husband was British and I managed to come in on a student Visa :)

arg 01-22-2004 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by CamChicks
This is potentially for porn distributors fleeing the justice department; a 30-40 year old with a wife and kids.
If you're talking fleeing during an investigation or on bail, that's very different than fleeing as a pre-emptive guard against new laws or crackdowns.

In general, a lot of countries are okay with rich or talented people immigrating. Naturally they don't want freeloaders, they want people who will contribute more than they take from the country, so poor, uneducated, or unemployable immigrants are less desirable everywhere. Canada and various Carribean countries set exact dollar amounts, like Canada pretty much give citizenships if you're a businessperson who has US$600,000 to $650,000 in assets. There are plenty of companies that specialize in helping you gain citizenship in other countries. I'd pick the countries you're interested in and then research them, it should only take a few minutes googling for the citizenship requirements of a given country.

sperbonzo 01-22-2004 09:33 AM

I would always encourage people to move out of the US. Everyone who feels inclined this way should certainly do so quickly before things get even worse here. I have spent almost half of my life outside the US....in the UK, South Africa, Hong Kong, Brazil, Amsterdam, etc.... and although I personally love it here and wish to live in the US for the rest of my life, I absolutely admire and respect people who decide to leave. When I don't like a country, I don't live there, and hate when people, (not you Cassie), think that a certain country is bad, but continue to live/visit there. Case in point, I have never liked France, (they never liked me, being an american jew), so I try my best not to go there unless forced to by business. Same goes for certain other countries that I feel suck.

If I might suggest France BTW, one need only to molest a minor, and then flee before your trial. You will always be welcome there. This works especially well if you have shot some content at some point, you will then be acclaimed as an artist when you arrive.:Graucho

jas0n 01-22-2004 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by CamChicks
I could look this up at each countries website, but I think the people who live there will give a more realistic response than a bunch of beaurocratic regulations posted in PDF.

Not really because those beaurocrats are the ones that need to let you through the door.

I know if you want into Canada it's almost essential to have a degree. Welcome to a country where college is a right so everyone and there mother has a degree, heh.

if you are truly that frightened you should stand up and fight for what you want. find groups your can support or volunteer time to and try to make a difference. donate to an anti-bush movement :).

though, since you are clearly into running, i suggest France.

Cassie 01-22-2004 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo

If I might suggest France BTW, one need only to molest a minor, and then flee before your trial. You will always be welcome there. This works especially well if you have shot some content at some point, you will then be acclaimed as an artist when you arrive.:Graucho

with all the content i have shot in 7 years, i should be considered the next van gogh.....lol

i admire people who want to move for the right reasons for themselves. running away from a problem(s) doesnt solve anything. the only time i would suggest altering ones life in such an extreme manner is when one has tried every avenue to make changes or a difference. if that does not work, then make the life altering change for then one knows that he/she did everything they could to make their life better and it just didnt work.

some things cant be changed and some things can. i think its worth the fight to try to change things one doesnt like and if one doesnt succeed, then they can say they tried and thats all that can be done.

if i had to move from here, i would consider ireland, sweden, amsterdam, aus.; it would have to be places where all four seasons existed and people speak english well cause i suck at learning a foreign language. amsterdam is top on the list.

CDSmith 01-22-2004 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by RockDaddy

That's just one step away from buying her a strap on and some anal lube :moon

You are in serious violation of the manly man code

No no, you don't understand. I nicknamed my cock "remote".


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CDSmith 01-22-2004 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Tala
Mmmm...:)



Do I get to push buttons on the remote, or just hold it? :)

See above.

woj 01-22-2004 09:55 AM

50 US haters

Tala 01-22-2004 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
See above.
:1orglaugh

Touche.


Can I rename it?

CDSmith 01-22-2004 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by Tala
:1orglaugh

Touche.


Can I rename it?

Apply for a six months work visa, after that time has passed we'll consider it.

roly 01-22-2004 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by ldinternet
Just dangle onto the back of a train from France, and the UK will welcome you with open arms. You'll also receive a free house, free health care, and a radio.
ain't that the truth! according to the newspaper today, the UK took 20% of the western worlds asylum seekers during 2002 with the UK their No1 destination.

here's the figures:

UK 110,700
US 81.100
Germany 71,100
France 51,100
Spain 6,200
Australia 6000

EU as a Whole 382,600

:mad:

Tipsy 01-22-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by roly


ain't that the truth! according to the newspaper today, the UK took 20% of the western worlds asylum seekers during 2002 with the UK their No1 destination.

here's the figures:

UK 110,700
US 81.100
Germany 71,100
France 51,100
Spain 6,200
Australia 6000

EU as a Whole 382,600

:mad:

Which is exactly why anywhere in the south of England now has little if any affordable rented accomodation, especially local authority housing.

RockDaddy 01-22-2004 10:32 AM

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No no, you don't understand. I nicknamed my cock "remote".
Actually CD, it's ok! I remembered that you are still single and are granted a little manly man code leeway.

Sharing remote = ok (if no sports are on)
Cuddling after sex = ok (if you turn it into a nap opportunity)
Talking about your feelings = ok (basic, no in depth)
Helping with household chores = (ok, however, you should start laying the groundwork now by burning dinner, dying the clothes pink when doing laundry, etc.. while still getting credit for trying)

Once you get married, the zero tolerance goes into full effect

RockDaddy 01-22-2004 10:34 AM

There's always the French Foreign Legion

roly 01-22-2004 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by Tipsy


Which is exactly why anywhere in the south of England now has little if any affordable rented accomodation, especially local authority housing.

tell me about it, i live near brighton on the south east coast and you're looking at £200k ($360k) for the cheapest crappy terrace house. when you can compare that to what you get for your money elsewhere in the UK and abroad it's a joke.

Sarah_Jayne 01-22-2004 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by roly


tell me about it, i live near brighton on the south east coast and you're looking at £200k ($360k) for the cheapest crappy terrace house. when you can compare that to what you get for your money elsewhere in the UK and abroad it's a joke.

I am not anti-assylum (very important in legit cases) but whenever I go to Dover I think - WOW, if only this place hadn't gone to shit I could live here.

CDSmith 01-22-2004 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by RockDaddy
Once you get married, the zero tolerance goes into full effect
Believe me, I've seen "everybody loves Raymond"... I don't want to end up like THAT poor shmuck.

Tipsy 01-22-2004 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc


I am not anti-assylum (very important in legit cases) but whenever I go to Dover I think - WOW, if only this place hadn't gone to shit I could live here.

I live a little further west up the coast but we have a very similar problem. The system just isn't designed for the huge influx and there isn't the employment to cope either. This means it has a HUGE impact on the local population and community and none of it good :(

We're so pissed off with it now we're moving near Manchester. If nothing else at least property is still more than affordable up there.

Tala 01-22-2004 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Apply for a six months work visa, after that time has passed we'll consider it.
Cool. Can Ibring my cats and my dog? :winkwink:

CDSmith 01-22-2004 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by Tala
Cool. Can Ibring my cats and my dog? :winkwink:
My dog will eat your cats. You best leave them where you are.

CDSmith 01-22-2004 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by RockDaddy

Actually CD, it's ok! I remembered that you are still single and are granted a little manly man code leeway.

Sharing remote = ok (if no sports are on)
Cuddling after sex = ok (if you turn it into a nap opportunity)
Talking about your feelings = ok (basic, no in depth)
Helping with household chores = (ok, however, you should start laying the groundwork now by burning dinner, dying the clothes pink when doing laundry, etc.. while still getting credit for trying)

Once you get married, the zero tolerance goes into full effect

A man came home from work, sat down in his favorite chair, turned on the TV, and said to his wife, "Quick, bring me a beer before it starts."

She looked a little puzzled, but brought him a beer. When he finished it, he said, "Quick, bring me another beer. It's gonna start."

This time she looked a little angry, but brought him a beer. When it was gone he said, "Quick, another beer before it starts."

"That's it!" She blew her top! "You bastard! You waltz in here, flop your fat arse down, don't even say hello to me and then expect me to run around like your slave. Don't you realize that I cook and clean and wash and iron all day long?"

The husband sighed, "Shit, it's started..."

Tala 01-22-2004 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
My dog will eat your cats. You best leave them where you are.
Damn. Can't go without the cats, sorry. :(

webseth 01-22-2004 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by genomega


No patriot act ?

Better check this website.

http://www.statewatch.org/news

:Graucho

yes i didnt mean the UK, thats not europe.. thats just another US state. I know i was real put off by england -- especially london when i first got to europe because it was SO american. THe only other foreign country ive been to that was that american was Australia. If you're moving for a CHANGE, avoid london and australia.

but after i made it to old europe i became more comfortable.

- Seth

wayward 01-22-2004 11:46 AM

I did move and i come back to visit family and friends....

RockDaddy 01-22-2004 12:10 PM

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A man came home from work, sat down in his favorite chair, turned on the TV, and said to his wife, "Quick, bring me a beer before it starts."

She looked a little puzzled, but brought him a beer. When he finished it, he said, "Quick, bring me another beer. It's gonna start."

This time she looked a little angry, but brought him a beer. When it was gone he said, "Quick, another beer before it starts."

"That's it!" She blew her top! "You bastard! You waltz in here, flop your fat arse down, don't even say hello to me and then expect me to run around like your slave. Don't you realize that I cook and clean and wash and iron all day long?"

The husband sighed, "Shit, it's started..."
ROFL :1orglaugh

CDSmith 01-22-2004 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
Damn. Can't go without the cats, sorry. :(
No worries. I wasn't going to make room for your husband either. :D

Ross 01-22-2004 12:23 PM

So one person annoys you in your country so you move? If thats the case we'd all be moving all the time.

Tala 01-22-2004 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
No worries. I wasn't going to make room for your husband either. :D
Who said I was bringin him? :feels-hot

Cindyff 01-22-2004 12:26 PM

Leaving the USA will change nothing! Stay and make changes, its the only way

Rich 01-22-2004 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by Cassie


point noted but hopefully this is one mistake that was learned and will never be made again.

The only point noted by the administration is that they can steal an election and no one in your country cares.

Cassie 01-22-2004 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by Rich


The only point noted by the administration is that they can steal an election and no one in your country cares.

i guess "we" as you like to group us, wont know if we dont care until and/or unless something like that happens again.

webseth 01-22-2004 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Cindyff
Leaving the USA will change nothing! Stay and make changes, its the only way
thats stupid. as youv'e seen from this thread a LOT of people love america the way it is. why should us expatriates force our views and (non)beliefs onto a population that doesnt agree? that would be hypocritical and selfish to try to mold a country around your personal tastes.

theres too many countries out there, one of them (maybe america) fits you, go find it. but for sure dont start changing them because of your own whims.

- Seth

CDSmith 01-22-2004 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
Who said I was bringin him? :feels-hot
You didn't. I just assumed. I'm sorry. Forgive me?

Here, let me take my shirt off and make it up to you by allowing you to massage my big fat obnoxious back. :D

Webby 01-22-2004 01:02 PM

Now I can see the reason why many US citizens are arriving here.

They appear to range across the spectrum, from singles, families to seniors. The number of familes are increasing.

Why? The common "thread" seems to repeat the word "escape" regularly. They ain't stupid.

Hawkeye 01-22-2004 01:03 PM

I love my country but I hate my government.

Those of you who say "at least we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights to guarantee freedom" are being a bit naive, since our government stopped obeying the Constitution a LONG time ago.

If things keep going the way they're going in the USA (belligerent politicians starting wars, decreased privacy & civil liberties, massive government spending, high taxes, terrorist attacks), I'll probably move to Australia or New Zealand.

broke 01-22-2004 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by Rich


The only point noted by the administration is that they can steal an election and no one in your country cares.

You had idiot status before... but now it's at a new level.

'Stote' an election?

Please make factual arguments to back that up (that arguement should include the fact that after all the votes were counted to ANY standard... Bush won Florida).

sperbonzo 01-22-2004 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by Hawkeye
I love my country but I hate my government.

Those of you who say "at least we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights to guarantee freedom" are being a bit naive, since our government stopped obeying the Constitution a LONG time ago.

If things keep going the way they're going in the USA (belligerent politicians starting wars, decreased privacy & civil liberties, massive government spending, high taxes, terrorist attacks), I'll probably move to Australia or New Zealand.

You would go to AUSTRALIA to escape massive goverment spending, decreased privacy, and high taxes?

:eek7

I'm guessing that you've never been to Australia

(No offence to Aussies)


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