50 US haters

:1orglaugh

Touche.


Can I rename it?

Apply for a six months work visa, after that time has passed we'll consider it.

ain't that the truth! according to the newspaper today, the UK took 20% of the western worlds asylum seekers during 2002 with the UK their No1 destination.

here's the figures:

UK 110,700
US 81.100
Germany 71,100
France 51,100
Spain 6,200
Australia 6000

EU as a Whole 382,600

:mad:

Which is exactly why anywhere in the south of England now has little if any affordable rented accomodation, especially local authority housing.

Actually CD, it's ok! I remembered that you are still single and are granted a little manly man code leeway.

Sharing remote = ok (if no sports are on)
Cuddling after sex = ok (if you turn it into a nap opportunity)
Talking about your feelings = ok (basic, no in depth)
Helping with household chores = (ok, however, you should start laying the groundwork now by burning dinner, dying the clothes pink when doing laundry, etc.. while still getting credit for trying)

Once you get married, the zero tolerance goes into full effect

There's always the French Foreign Legion

tell me about it, i live near brighton on the south east coast and you're looking at £200k ($360k) for the cheapest crappy terrace house. when you can compare that to what you get for your money elsewhere in the UK and abroad it's a joke.

I am not anti-assylum (very important in legit cases) but whenever I go to Dover I think - WOW, if only this place hadn't gone to shit I could live here.

Believe me, I've seen "everybody loves Raymond"... I don't want to end up like THAT poor shmuck.

I live a little further west up the coast but we have a very similar problem. The system just isn't designed for the huge influx and there isn't the employment to cope either. This means it has a HUGE impact on the local population and community and none of it good :(

We're so pissed off with it now we're moving near Manchester. If nothing else at least property is still more than affordable up there.

Cool. Can Ibring my cats and my dog? :winkwink:

My dog will eat your cats. You best leave them where you are.

A man came home from work, sat down in his favorite chair, turned on the TV, and said to his wife, "Quick, bring me a beer before it starts."

She looked a little puzzled, but brought him a beer. When he finished it, he said, "Quick, bring me another beer. It's gonna start."

This time she looked a little angry, but brought him a beer. When it was gone he said, "Quick, another beer before it starts."

"That's it!" She blew her top! "You bastard! You waltz in here, flop your fat arse down, don't even say hello to me and then expect me to run around like your slave. Don't you realize that I cook and clean and wash and iron all day long?"

The husband sighed, "Shit, it's started..."

Damn. Can't go without the cats, sorry. :(

yes i didnt mean the UK, thats not europe.. thats just another US state. I know i was real put off by england -- especially london when i first got to europe because it was SO american. THe only other foreign country ive been to that was that american was Australia. If you're moving for a CHANGE, avoid london and australia.

but after i made it to old europe i became more comfortable.

- Seth

I did move and i come back to visit family and friends....

ROFL :1orglaugh

No worries. I wasn't going to make room for your husband either. :D

So one person annoys you in your country so you move? If thats the case we'd all be moving all the time.

Who said I was bringin him? :feels-hot

Leaving the USA will change nothing! Stay and make changes, its the only way

The only point noted by the administration is that they can steal an election and no one in your country cares.

i guess "we" as you like to group us, wont know if we dont care until and/or unless something like that happens again.

thats stupid. as youv'e seen from this thread a LOT of people love america the way it is. why should us expatriates force our views and (non)beliefs onto a population that doesnt agree? that would be hypocritical and selfish to try to mold a country around your personal tastes.

theres too many countries out there, one of them (maybe america) fits you, go find it. but for sure dont start changing them because of your own whims.

- Seth

You didn't. I just assumed. I'm sorry. Forgive me?

Here, let me take my shirt off and make it up to you by allowing you to massage my big fat obnoxious back. :D

Now I can see the reason why many US citizens are arriving here.

They appear to range across the spectrum, from singles, families to seniors. The number of familes are increasing.

Why? The common "thread" seems to repeat the word "escape" regularly. They ain't stupid.

I love my country but I hate my government.

Those of you who say "at least we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights to guarantee freedom" are being a bit naive, since our government stopped obeying the Constitution a LONG time ago.

If things keep going the way they're going in the USA (belligerent politicians starting wars, decreased privacy & civil liberties, massive government spending, high taxes, terrorist attacks), I'll probably move to Australia or New Zealand.

You had idiot status before... but now it's at a new level.

'Stote' an election?

Please make factual arguments to back that up (that arguement should include the fact that after all the votes were counted to ANY standard... Bush won Florida).

You would go to AUSTRALIA to escape massive goverment spending, decreased privacy, and high taxes?

:eek7

I'm guessing that you've never been to Australia

(No offence to Aussies)

Hawkeye:

That is the bit that is damned sad Hawkeye! I loved the US.. still do, but realised we got some problems brewing :-)

Now.. well, every country has elements of crap in their governments, but the US seems to manage to top the list currently. There are many honorable folks in the US government and have served that country well. Sadly there is a "club" of lying crooks as well who have literally pulled the place apart, - certainly not to the advantage of it's citizens and at the same time, brought the status of the US down internationally. Others are looking in and shaking their heads in dismay...

Again? One time should be enough.

This post reeks of -- 'I want to move, but I want it to be easy'.

Guess what... it's not easy. But if it is important to you and your family, you will find a way.

I did.

Those elements are no worse than in the US, but at least Australia doesn't have a huge bloated military going on adventures around the world and creating enemies for itself. At least they spend money on themselves, unlike in America where our "fiscally conservative" president is demanding over $100 billion in welfare for Iraq.

Solution: Buy an island and form your own government. All of your problems solved, right?




right???

Once again, I'm not here to teach you anything, if you can't figure shit out on your own, that's your problem. You're a brainwashed, uneducated, unintelligent flag waiver, what makes you think you're worth my time? You're not. I've stopped caring what morons think of me a long time ago, like at age 8. You calling me an idiot is a compliment, as it would be if Rush Limbaugh called me one.

Besides all that, I can hardly even understand your posts, they're like reading a scribble message from my 6 year old. "Stote", what the fuck is a stote? "arguement"?

If you didn't read 4 years ago about the fraud involved with the Florida voters, or Bush's relative calling the election early on TV, then I don't expect you to turn off Fox News anytime soon. Grow up kid, next time my only response to you will be Baaaaa.

interesting to wake up to. :Oh crap

thank you to sarah_webinc and others who
tried to provide real info relevant to the topic.

plenty seemed to miss the point tho :warning

this isn't supposed to be personal, about me.
it's supposed to be general, so that people can actually assess
their options the next time a Patriot suggests "dont' like it, leave!".
I want to know where that's a realistic option for everyday people.


and re: asylum, fleeing the country, etc.
lets use this a hypothetical:

You've been producing interracial gay anal gangbang movies
for the last 5 years. One day after Bush's relection, some of
your colleges in the biz start recieving supoenas, there are
horror stores of agents showing up at peoples houses and
seizing computers and other records/property/'evidence'.

Are you just going to sit and wait for them to get around to you?
or make plans to relocate? Our citizens will not revolt in support of you. :2 cents:

me neither, if someone is fleeing genuine persecution then fair enough, we should and always have given them sanctuary in the UK. however i would bet that it's only a tiny fraction that are in that situation. it's mainly ecconomic migrants, i don't blame them if i was young and lived in a poor country, i would do my best to get to a rich country like the US or UK. but if they are ecconomic migrants then we should be picky and only accept people with skills that are in short supply like doctors etc.