has anybody read "The Republic" by Plato? - GoFuckYourself.com

01-20-2004, 07:29 PM

I read "The Allegory Of The Cave" in school a few years ago, and it pretty much inspired me.

I am looking to buy Plato's "The Republic"

have any of you read it? and what did you think about it?

thanx

Theo · 01-20-2004, 08:04 PM

I read it years ago. Great reading. It's available online. http://plato.evansville.edu/texts/jowett/republic.htm

Im trying to find the book about Hermes trismegistus. It describes how the world was probably created by god and it's exactly what you'll read in bible.... When I found it out I lost a lot of faith...Bible wasn't that original in a scary degree.

01-20-2004, 08:33 PM

are there many passages like "the allegory of the cave"?

things as interesting as that and such?

thanx dude

cluck · 01-20-2004, 08:34 PM

Good reading. Read that last year.

fuzebox · 01-20-2004, 08:35 PM

Not yet, but I'm reading Plato's Last Days of Socrates right now, good stuff

Theo · 01-20-2004, 08:49 PM

They follow a similar tone.

English translations are pretty good having in mind many of the terms used do not exist in english vocabulary. The truth is at younger age I HATED all ancient greek texts because I had to read them from the original ancient text and pass exams something extremely difficult. I never understood the obsession of our educational system in Greece to learn the ancient greek language (something close to impossible). It only results to hate the philosophers hehe

Shortest and best definition of friend ever given by Aristotle:

one soul in two bodies

GonePhishing · 01-20-2004, 08:52 PM

I really enjoyed the story. I found it run in synch with the intellegible vs the real arguments that were later drawn out in the book. I did find the whole reading to be enjoyable. I also liked the added discussion on the world of forms.

Playah · 01-20-2004, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by bdjuf
are there many passages like "the allegory of the cave"?

things as interesting as that and such?

thanx dude

No, there are not many passages like that in the book. That's one of the only ones, there are like 2 others and they are not as powerful or in-depth.

However, the book as a whole is quite interesting. It's a philosophical classic for a reason.

On a sidenote- you can skip about 100 pages in the middle without losing much of the story (where he goes into detail about monitoring the education of kids, the feeding of the soldiers, and irrelevant crap like that).

-Leo

01-20-2004, 08:56 PM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

is that a "real" edition of the book?

TheEnforcer · 01-20-2004, 09:24 PM

Yes, many years ago in college. There are a TON of great Philophers and philosopy books to read. That is easily one of, and many would argue, the best philosophy books you can read.

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Libertine · 01-20-2004, 09:36 PM

Even though Plato is one of my favorite writers from both a historical and a literary point of view, from a philosophical point of view his writings can be considered worthless now.

That's why you'd be better off reading stuff like Phaedros, Protagoras, Ion, etc than The Republic, unless you're really into the history of philosophy.

pushpills · 01-20-2004, 09:45 PM

I've read "The Czech Republic" by play-dough.

01-20-2004, 07:29 PM	#1
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	has anybody read "The Republic" by Plato? I read "The Allegory Of The Cave" in school a few years ago, and it pretty much inspired me. I am looking to buy Plato's "The Republic" have any of you read it? and what did you think about it? thanx

01-20-2004, 08:04 PM	#2
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I read it years ago. Great reading. It's available online. http://plato.evansville.edu/texts/jowett/republic.htm Im trying to find the book about Hermes trismegistus. It describes how the world was probably created by god and it's exactly what you'll read in bible.... When I found it out I lost a lot of faith...Bible wasn't that original in a scary degree. Last edited by Theo; 01-20-2004 at 08:07 PM..

01-20-2004, 08:34 PM	#4
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01-20-2004, 08:52 PM	#7
GonePhishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Blah Posts: 2,474	I really enjoyed the story. I found it run in synch with the intellegible vs the real arguments that were later drawn out in the book. I did find the whole reading to be enjoyable. I also liked the added discussion on the world of forms. __________________ If Biff Fucks My Mom... I Might Never Be Born...

01-20-2004, 09:24 PM	#10
TheEnforcer Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,855	Yes, many years ago in college. There are a TON of great Philophers and philosopy books to read. That is easily one of, and many would argue, the best philosophy books you can read. __________________ Hit me up below for all your advertising needs!

01-20-2004, 08:33 PM	#3
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	are there many passages like "the allegory of the cave"? things as interesting as that and such? thanx dude

01-20-2004, 08:35 PM	#5
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,119	Not yet, but I'm reading Plato's Last Days of Socrates right now, good stuff

01-20-2004, 08:49 PM	#6
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	They follow a similar tone. English translations are pretty good having in mind many of the terms used do not exist in english vocabulary. The truth is at younger age I HATED all ancient greek texts because I had to read them from the original ancient text and pass exams something extremely difficult. I never understood the obsession of our educational system in Greece to learn the ancient greek language (something close to impossible). It only results to hate the philosophers hehe Shortest and best definition of friend ever given by Aristotle: one soul in two bodies

01-20-2004, 08:56 PM	#9
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books is that a "real" edition of the book?

01-20-2004, 09:25 PM	#11
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01-20-2004, 09:36 PM	#12
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01-20-2004, 09:45 PM	#13
pushpills Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 3,700	I've read "The Czech Republic" by play-dough.