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01-19-2004, 08:29 PM

Hi,
Just wanted to quickly introduce SwapBucks to everyone. Our marketing application, PeerProfit was just made available and I wanted to take this time to introduce it to those who haven?t seen it yet. http://download.peerprofit.com

There are two channels here at SwapBucks which the webmaster community may be interested in:

PeerMasters ? Those who would like to make money file sharing on P2P networks Like Kazaa, Limewire, Morpheus, Etc.

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PeerProviders ? Content owners who would like to see more traffic, and ultimately, more conversions from the trading done by the PeerMasters.

Using our PeerProfit application PeerMasters download short 1 minute video content provided by our PeerProviders and then distribute these throughout the P2P Networks to other users..
When other people download this content from any of these networks and watch it, they are taken to the PeerProvider?s website

When the surfer converts at the PeerProvider?s website, SwapBucks makes money. Every month, SwapBucks takes 50% of the Net Income generated with this program and distributes it amongst the PeerMasters on a performance percentage basis.

The easiest way to explain the payout to the PeerMasters is this: The more files that you share, the more money you will make. The more P2P networks you belong to, the greater your potential is.

The easiest way to explain the PeerProvider upside is: The more content that you give us, the better your chances of getting conversions. If you put just a few one minute videos into the system, then the PeerMasters only have access to those few videos to market your sites. The more videos the PeerMasters have to share, the higher the chances are that someone will download them from a P2P network via one of our PeerMasters.

I kept this simple by design to make things clear. If you have more questions or want to talk more please post back or hit me offline.

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01-19-2004, 08:29 PM

Usally people post a bit before they spam

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01-19-2004, 08:31 PM

So how much for 1 millllllioooooooon videos?
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01-19-2004, 08:31 PM

Well he is a paid advertiser, should be able to announce his program I think

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01-19-2004, 08:32 PM

Theres nomention of how much the payouts are at all., just mention of recieving"credit" for referralls:

It's very simple actually. PeerMasters? distribute the PeerProvider's? DRM'd content throughout the p2p community. When another p2per downloads the file and watches the legal content, they are taken to the PeerProvider's? web site. Every time a PeerMaster's? file pops the PeerProvider's? site, the orginating PeerMaster? receives credit for sending the individual to the PeerProvider's? web site. SwapBucks.com will calculate each PeerMasters? total referrals to the individual PeerProvider's? web sites, and rank the PeerMaster? in our system against other PeerMasters?.

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01-19-2004, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by q00p
Theres nomention of how much the payouts are at all., just mention of recieving"credit" for referralls:

It's very simple actually. PeerMasters? distribute the PeerProvider's? DRM'd content throughout the p2p community. When another p2per downloads the file and watches the legal content, they are taken to the PeerProvider's? web site. Every time a PeerMaster's? file pops the PeerProvider's? site, the orginating PeerMaster? receives credit for sending the individual to the PeerProvider's? web site. SwapBucks.com will calculate each PeerMasters? total referrals to the individual PeerProvider's? web sites, and rank the PeerMaster? in our system against other PeerMasters?.

Exactly....

What are the payouts?
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01-19-2004, 08:42 PM

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Exactly....

What are the payouts?

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01-19-2004, 09:30 PM

and where's the content??

I signed up as they say they provide content to share but I see nothin!!!

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01-19-2004, 09:33 PM

interesting concept you got there...

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01-19-2004, 09:48 PM

PeerProviders are paid in converting referrals sent to their sites by PeerMasters sharing their content on various p2p networks. PeerMasters are paid 50% of SwapBucks monthly revenue. The payout works on a performance percentage basis. The more files you share the more potential money making.

The files are pushed to you by our Global Content Manager at SwapBucks, seeded with your unique identifier, which will travel all over the internet making sales for you. All you have to do is download the app and it does the rest for you automaticlally. You can download the app at http://download.peerprofit.com
When you register, you will get your info mailed to you to log in and download the app.

BTW, this was not intended to be spam, just a simple friendly introduction to something that is not your everyday middle of the road opportunity. We know people will be interested, so we owe them the opprtunity to participate. We would be happy to answer any and all questions clearly.
Thats all. A friendly announcement.
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01-19-2004, 09:51 PM

So say I send you 10 joins a day.... How much am I making?
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01-19-2004, 09:53 PM

Better yet....

"The payout works on a performance percentage basis"

What % is based on what?

Heres an example... the top 10 webmasters get paid x amount

and so on and so forth...

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01-19-2004, 10:01 PM

Easy.

SwapBucks takes 50% of what they bank and pay out to the PeerMasters. Imagine a pie chart. The top people would make more than someone who doesn't do much. It's simple actually.

100% of that 50% of the revenue from SwapBucks would go back to the Peermasters based on their performance with the program.

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01-19-2004, 10:01 PM

And you still havent explained where the content is?

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01-19-2004, 10:02 PM

Have you installed the app?

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01-19-2004, 10:03 PM

yeppers.. I would also suggest that use ICQ rather than AIM for support . more webmasters use ICQ...

and if you are gonna use AIM, have someone answering it

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01-19-2004, 10:04 PM

I understand that..... But the funny thing is there is no place on your website that shows what the top webmasters are making along with how many refferals they are sending,,,,

These things need to be out in the open for something like this to work. I for one wont send traffic until I know what I am going to make.
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01-19-2004, 10:07 PM

can you AIM? swapbuckssupport

if not

You would need to connect. Then look at staus. You will see the types of content you selected in the PROGRAMS section of the app being sent to your shared folder that you use for the p2p networks. It is critical that you send the content to the folder that you share with the p2p networks. Thats how, people will find them and go to the PeerProviders site to convert to a sale.

I hope this helps. Ask away.

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01-19-2004, 10:10 PM

Yes, headless you are right, very temporarily. We just launched the application and the program on Friday, the 16th. There are still some wmall things to do.

You can actually check your stats in real time by logging into www.peermaster.com.

There are many new helpful additions to this program. We appreciate the insight and concerns as it will help us make this product better for all of you and us.

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01-19-2004, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by SharePaid
Yes, headless you are right, very temporarily. We just the application and the program on Friday, the 16th, so the stats will be forthcoming.

You can actually check your stats in real time by logging into www.peermaster.com.

There are many new helpful additions to this program. We appreciate the insight and concerns as it will help us make this product better for all of you and us.

Just a word to the wise.... If you want webmasters to send you traffic you better tell them what they will be paid.

I bet a lot of ppl have the same questions as I do and are waiting for the answers before signing up for your prog...
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01-19-2004, 10:19 PM

Ok Headless

Would you be a PeerMaster (share files of others for revenue)
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PeerProvider (provides files for Peermasters to share?)

I guess what I am asking is do you have sites that you well memberships for?

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01-19-2004, 10:21 PM

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Ok Headless

Would you be a PeerMaster (share files of others for revenue)
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PeerProvider (provides files for Peermasters to share?)

I guess what I am asking is do you have sites that you well memberships for?

I could prolly do either or... doesnt matter... But most likely would start with the first one...
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01-19-2004, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Headless

Just a word to the wise.... If you want webmasters to send you traffic you better tell them what they will be paid.

I bet a lot of ppl have the same questions as I do and are waiting for the answers before signing up for your prog...

Yep, I am the same. It looks interesting, but unless someone can assure me that I can make a descent amount of money through it, I won't be bothered to signup, download the application and content, etc etc
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01-19-2004, 10:26 PM

I think the confusion lies in the fact that we don't say

x dollars for each signup or % of every sale.

It is a 100% payout each month of 50% of SwapBucks revenue.

Half of what is made goes back to the people who shared the files all over the planet.

Now, all 100% of that pot every month goes to the PeerMasters based on their individual performance. Is it starting to make sense. I'm here to help, really.

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01-19-2004, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by Headless

Just a word to the wise.... If you want webmasters to send you traffic you better tell them what they will be paid.

I bet a lot of ppl have the same questions as I do and are waiting for the answers before signing up for your prog...

Ya, ive been harping on this same thing since friday on another board. I think i understand how it works now, but still have no idea wether top earners will be taking home thousands of dollars or 20 bucks and a thank you note.

Still one of the best programs on the net.

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01-19-2004, 10:31 PM

You arent answering my question....

What type of algorithm are you using to dictate who is a top earner and who isnt?

You may think the numbers you are spouting off sound good as a marketing tool towards webmasters, but in fact you are doing the oppisite.

Webmasters need hard cold numbers.
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01-19-2004, 10:32 PM

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Ya, ive been harping on this same thing since friday on another board. I think i understand how it works now, but still have no idea wether top earners will be taking home thousands of dollars or 20 bucks and a thank you note.

My guess is that unless you are running every application, 24-7 on numerous computers, you will be lucky to receive 20 bucks. I could be wrong though, and I would be happy to be. If it can earn real money, than I would be more than happy to give it a go.
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01-19-2004, 10:39 PM

Ok Headless,

PeerProviders get half of the sale and SwapBucks gets the other half, Just like a lot of other affiliate programs pay out. Standard 50/50 partnership.

If you've got content, and want to really take advantage of this new technology, I think that you will find that seeding the p2p networks with files that direct to your sites can be beneficial. These little digital salesmen just keep running all over the Internet for life, and wherever they roam, they always carry your uniqe ref code.

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01-19-2004, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by SharePaid
Ok Headless,

PeerProviders get half of the sale and SwapBucks gets the other half, Just like a lot of other affilaite programs pay out. Standard 50/50 partnership.

If you've got content, and want to really take advantage of this new technology, I think that you will find that seeding the p2p netwroks with files that direct to your sites can be beneficial. These little digital salesmen just keep running all over the Internet for life, and wherever they roam, they always carry your uniqe ref code.

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01-19-2004, 10:44 PM

Let see if this works....

What type of algorithm are you using to dictate who is a top earner and who isnt? Which in turn directly affects how much you pay per account. If all I do is share files what decides my piece of the pie?
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01-19-2004, 10:53 PM

Headless....... I am not sure what you are asking

As a distributor you get a % of 50% of what SwapBucks makes.

Your % is worked out pro-rata on the traffic (edit: Volume) you send compared to other distributors.

They have not had a full month in business yet so how can they tell how much that will be?.....

and I assume that the ammount will go up every month as they get more advertisers

Hope I am correct on this
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01-19-2004, 10:57 PM

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Headless....... I am not sure what you are asking

As a distributor you get a % of 50% of what SwapBucks makes.

Your % is worked out pro-rata on the traffic you send compared to other distributors.

They have not had a full month in business yet so how can they tell how much that will be?.....

and I assume that the ammount will go up every month as they get more advertisers

Hope I am correct on this

You would think you guys would have a game plan already. What guidelines will you be using to compare my traffic sent verses the others?

Can anyone else help me on this one? I can only think of so many ways to ask the same question over and over again....
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01-19-2004, 11:02 PM

Hmm I see it like this...

you download the software and you start getting content to upload via whatever p2p program you use. You have to have both you p2p program and the Peerprofit software going at the same time.

You have content in your folder, someone sees it through your p2p program and transfers it like they do with music. If after they watch the clip they've downloaded (which automatically goes to the website... ) AND they click on the website and sign up, you would get a percentage of that signup...but I'm not sure what happens after that.... LOL

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01-19-2004, 11:03 PM

All of this feedback is appreciated and will only make your program better as we polish it up. There can never be an exact dollar amount when everything is based on % and referrals. The harder workers will make more of the money, just like any thing in life, cut and dry. It will all get sorted and everyone will be happy. There are always doubts with new things, no matter what it is. We are not surprised by this. In the end, I'm confident that people will support. Its good for everyone, especially webmasters that signup as PeerProviders.

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01-19-2004, 11:07 PM

Damian2001,

Your correct. We take the total clicks a PeerMaster sends to the Network and divide by the total clicks in the Network for any given time period. The result is expressed as a percent and then multiplied by the overall Network Pool of money which is 50% of Net Proceeds.

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01-19-2004, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by Headless

You would think you guys would have a game plan already. What guidelines will you be using to compare my traffic sent verses the others?

Can anyone else help me on this one? I can only think of so many ways to ask the same question over and over again....

the same way as any other program.....

they have a referal code in the url - that the vid clip pops up......

they track the ref code and pay you a % of what they earn.... that % is pro rata compared to other distributors in the system

actually I think you might be winding us up now.....
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01-19-2004, 11:09 PM

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01-19-2004, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by q00p
Hmm I see it like this...

you download the software and you start getting content to upload via whatever p2p program you use. You have to have both you p2p program and the Peerprofit software going at the same time.

You have content in your folder, someone sees it through your p2p program and transfers it like they do with music. If after they watch the clip they've downloaded (which automatically goes to the website... ) AND they click on the website and sign up, you would get a percentage of that signup...but I'm not sure what happens after that.... LOL

On the site it says they pay all of their webmasters 50% of what their site earns. Not every webmaster gets 50%, they will take 50% of what they earn and split it between their webmasters. I want to know how are they going to deccide who gets paid what? They say the top money making webmasters will get paid more... But by what guidlines?
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01-19-2004, 11:10 PM

q00p we then collect our monies from the Providers and pay the PeerMasters.

Headless, we don't compare traffic per se amongst PeerMasters. To the Network it's a click of origin unknown and without care.

The idea is to generate traffic and get paid for it. We provide hit by hit rankings and payouts via ePassporte.

We have quite a few game plans we are just settling in thanks

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01-19-2004, 11:12 PM

Headless,

Just ask we are right here.

Come on now be nice we are nice u should be 2.

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01-19-2004, 11:17 PM

I was being nice. It just gets tedious when I have to ask the same question over and over again.

I had to ask the same question at least 4 times before someone from your camp answered it.

My suggestion to you is to get a marketing guy who knows his shit before you launch your program. ;)
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01-19-2004, 11:21 PM

actually we have all been sitting here watch him explain it and it appears your just bitter. Let's come back to you later when your not being a dick.

From my post about 7 posts ago:

"Damian2001,

Your correct. We take the total clicks a PeerMaster sends to the Network and divide by the total clicks in the Network for any given time period. The result is expressed as a percent and then multiplied by the overall Network Pool of money which is 50% of Net Proceeds.

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01-19-2004, 11:22 PM

All good. I'm glad that it got explained.

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01-19-2004, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by 4CNote
actually we have all been sitting here watch him explain it and it appears your just bitter. Let's come back to you later when your not being a dick.

From my post about 7 posts ago:

"Damian2001,

Your correct. We take the total clicks a PeerMaster sends to the Network and divide by the total clicks in the Network for any given time period. The result is expressed as a percent and then multiplied by the overall Network Pool of money which is 50% of Net Proceeds.

Regards,

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Regards.

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Are you kidding me? I have no reason to be a "dick" towards you. Your post was the one which actually answered my question. After I asked it at least 4 times.

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01-19-2004, 11:28 PM

Deployment Manager actually.

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01-19-2004, 11:30 PM

What headless is asking is very simple to understand but you guys keep beating around the bush so I will spell it out for you so you can understand ok:

Now lets say you got 20 webmasters doing this, and you have a break down like this:

webmaster 1 sends 25 signups
webmaster 2 sends 20 signups
webmaster 3 sends 15 signups
and on and on till you get from 1 to 20 webmasters...

now, the simple question is, webmaster1 sent 20 signups, what is his percentage of pay of that 100% of 50% from your 50%???

simple example:

webmaster1 = 20% payout from the 100% of the 50%
webmaster 2 = 15% payout from the 100% of the 50%
...
...

...

..

...

till finally you get down to webmaster20 who may only get .5% of the 100% of the 50%

has it sunk in yet?

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01-19-2004, 11:33 PM

also your status in your program says 5GB and it downloaded 1 little 1.38mb file for a tonyscastingcouch, so your telling me the only file to promote is 1 little file? No money in that

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01-19-2004, 11:36 PM

You see Brent understands what I was asking....

Now since you dicks answered my first question how about aanswering another one.

You say....

"Your correct. We take the total clicks a PeerMaster sends to the Network and divide by the total clicks in the Network for any given time period. The result is expressed as a percent and then multiplied by the overall Network Pool of money which is 50% of Net Proceeds."

How do we know exactly what is the "overall Network Pool of money"?

How can you guarantee that the "overall Network Pool of money" can't be fudged in your favor? We have to go on your word? HA!

The more you guys post the more I dont wana send you traffic... LOL
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01-19-2004, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by BrentD
What headless is asking is very simple to understand but you guys keep beating around the bush so I will spell it out for you so you can understand ok:

Now lets say you got 20 webmasters doing this, and you have a break down like this:

webmaster 1 sends 25 signups
webmaster 2 sends 20 signups
webmaster 3 sends 15 signups
and on and on till you get from 1 to 20 webmasters...

now, the simple question is, webmaster1 sent 20 signups, what is his percentage of pay of that 100% of 50% from your 50%???

simple example:

webmaster1 = 20% payout from the 100% of the 50%
webmaster 2 = 15% payout from the 100% of the 50%
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till finally you get down to webmaster20 who may only get .5% of the 100% of the 50%

has it sunk in yet?

I think you are wrong in assuming it is based on the % of SIGN UPS you send.......

It is based on the % of TRAFFIC you send.....

this seems fair as the quailty of traffic throughout the system should be about the same
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01-19-2004, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by damian2001

I think you are wrong in assuming it is based on the % of SIGN UPS you send.......

It is based on the % of TRAFFIC you send.....

this seems fair as the quailty of traffic throughout the system should be about the same

traffic, signups whatever I was just trying to explain the concept they didn't understand, sorry

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