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Old 01-18-2004, 12:29 PM   #1
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legitimate chance to run your own paysite

A while back we designed our site, the main gateway page is greatgirls.com, to be able to have multiple front-ends but still use the same backend mechanisms. The front-end design and backend design can look the same, different logos, etc., but not require any additional maintenance once setup.

We'd like to give others a chance to take advantage of this architecture and practice having their own paysite.

We do -

1) all content, you pay for nothing
2) regular updates of content
3) pay for bandwidth, server maintenance

You do -

A) all design, we may be able to help you some, particularly with PHP scripts
B) all marketing / advertising
C) customer support

You will get 70% of signups and reoccurring.

You will either need a $500 deposit, or we can hold your revshare until you reach $500. Fully refundable as long as you don't cause us grief like spamming. You will only be given an FTP account and won't otherwise have access to the server, for both of our protection.

This is a new offer on our part. To keep the legalities simple, at this stage we want only US / Canadian residents, to be confirmed by us mailing the contract to a street address, not PO Box. This is open to both new and experienced paysite owners, but I don't plan to do any training on marketing / advertising. Must be at least 18 years old.

Any questions can be emailed to me at webmaster - greatgirls - com.
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Old 01-18-2004, 12:32 PM   #2
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it STILL crap like i told you last week
set your fucking bg
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Old 01-18-2004, 12:35 PM   #3
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and btw i can BUY a fucking site for 500
and not pay you 30% of shit either
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Old 01-18-2004, 01:39 PM   #5
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That paysite looks like shit.
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Old 01-18-2004, 01:46 PM   #6
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okay, now that we've tallied the jealous, please let me know if anyone has any questions I haven't covered
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Old 01-18-2004, 02:07 PM   #8
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your using zipcontent for a paysite?
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Did you guys at Greatgirls think about the demographic of what your attempting to do?

Most designers prefer to make designs and do not have time to generate traffic, or inclination to keep rolling on marketing consistantly.

ON the other hand your asking those with traffic to design a site and market it, when they are interested in sending traffic to 1000's of sponsors of which refine tours to work for the promoter. In otherwards the promoters do not have time to wonder how effective there tour is and tweak it. They dont care how the tour looks they care whether or not it converts for em that week.

Everyone is hunkering down on their "Place" in the grand scheme of things, bold steps in two different directions is a tough decision.


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Old 01-18-2004, 02:29 PM   #10
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I agree. Ugly site. Silly concept. You're better off to just buy a paysite turnkey although turnkey sites usually convert like shit.
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Old 01-18-2004, 02:42 PM   #11
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this is getting funny....for those who aren't fixated on being jealous -

I realize there are a lot of people here who are concerned this will take promoters away and they will lose some traffic, especially after this takes off. But for those that are interested in owning their own paysite this is a great opportunity. The $500 is a deposit, not a fee, and no, you can get near the amount of content we have with this.

Regarding the design of our site, it does quite well thank you. Besides, the proposal would have one create their own design, there's no limitation except it has to be in PHP. So if you don't like our style, no problem, create your own.
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this is getting funny....for those who are fixated on being jealous -

I realize there are a lot of people here who are concerned this will take promoters away and they will lose some traffic, especially after this takes off.


youre kidding right?
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http://www.greatgirls.com/preview/index.php

Reminds me of the low-res CCBill interface
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Doesn't sound like it'll work. I'd much rather invest a bit for the content and keep 100% of signups... or promote a sponsor and get 60% recurring without having to deal with design and customer support.
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corrected the grammar so it says "aren't" instead of "are", a minor change is all ;-)
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Doesn't sound like it'll work. I'd much rather invest a bit for the content and keep 100% of signups... or promote a sponsor and get 60% recurring without having to deal with design and customer support.
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corrected the grammar so it says "aren't" instead of "are", a minor change is all ;-)

wtf are you talking about idiot?
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this is getting funny....for those who aren't fixated on being jealous -

I realize there are a lot of people here who are concerned this will take promoters away and they will lose some traffic, especially after this takes off. But for those that are interested in owning their own paysite this is a great opportunity. The $500 is a deposit, not a fee, and no, you can get near the amount of content we have with this.

Regarding the design of our site, it does quite well thank you. Besides, the proposal would have one create their own design, there's no limitation except it has to be in PHP. So if you don't like our style, no problem, create your own.
Dude NOBODY is jealous of your idea and the sponsors damn sure aren't worried about you stealing affiliates. Any affiliate that would even consider this is smart enough to have their own paysite done anyway.

Don't worry, I have these ideas from time to time. I like to call them "Sounds fucking great in my head but it's really shit" ideas. Go back to the drawing board before you invest more time into this crap.
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wtf are you talking about idiot?
You're not the only one that is confused
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this tool cant even set a bg color when its been pointed out to him 80 times and hes talking shit?

unreal




your site sucks
you suck
your mommy sucks





go get bent retard


edit: i hope you stole that content cuz you got about ZERO chance of making any money off a cash investment

your model SUCKS man
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your site sucks
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go get bent retard


edit: i hope you stole that content cuz you got about ZERO chance of making any money off a cash investment

your model SUCKS man
But I bet it sounded great in his head.

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So, I am going to pay $500, design a web site, promote it and act as membership support for 70%? Heh... I'd rather start up my own paysite then considering all the work I'd have to put in.
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I think what we are really concerned about is you stealing $500.00 from hard working people.

I give you 500.00 bucks for 70% recurring?
Ha! Go fuckyourself yo, you got no name, you got no identity, your off shore...

You want 500.00 bucks for me to make you a website?
I'll pass.
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I agree, I'm sure any of our affiliates would rather promote us, since they don't have to worry about the design or any of that shit! And if they do want to do something, it would be starting their own paysite!

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Reminds me of the low-res CCBill interface
The girl on the left looks a bit photoBotched!

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We need an icon of that simpsons comic book guy saying "Worst .. idea.... ever"

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is the way youre using that content all copacetic with the people who own it?


alot of brokers have limits on the amount of domains a particular purchased set can be used on
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Somebody slap me...
I just called some one a "no name" on GFY...

God damnit...
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God damnit...

thats alright, i called someone a newbie the other day
how funny is THAT?
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thats alright, i called someone a newbie the other day
how funny is THAT?
Thats awright with me, this guy is like a Newbie on Meth though or somthing. I can't describe it.

How them Alien Figurines working out next to the Geisha girls?
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Thats awright with me, this guy is like a Newbie on Meth though or somthing. I can't describe it.

How them Alien Figurines working out next to the Geisha girls?

lol fine

ive got the other two cenobites and the guy from hellbound still in boxes
never got around to doing them
got me thinking about it now
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Some good points have been made.

Technically, to stay in our license agreement, you'd just be a revsharer of ours, and for the pics we licensed, we still have a few domains we can add to the license and remain completely legit. We have no plans to do anything that would jeopardize our current site.

I believe a few have touched upon this - Who is this suited for? There are a few people out there that wouldn't mind delving into owning their own paysites, but don't want to take the risk. Setting aside the deposit which is fully refundable if they don't any wrong, the only thing they can lose here is their labor. What they gain is a better understanding of this side of the business. It may be a great stepping stone for some.

I realize some people have been burned, and probably because of past experience alone they'll pass this opportunity up, that's a sad reason, but I can't do anything about that. We've always been honest, never shaved, but I guess there's no fool proof way for me to show that. I am just now introducing myself to the community at large, so granted to most I'm fairly unknown, but I'm trying to change that.

Regarding the "no name, offshore" part. I understand this concern. We have the same concern about interested parties so we're asking for a deposit. Kinda of a catch-22. We are a legal corporation, and will sign contracts as such. If it helps any, we can negotiate the deposit, maybe you'd get 50% until we accumulate $500 then you'll get 70%. We open to discussing this.

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So basically, ppl pay $500 so that they can get $14 per sale, and to top that off they have to built the site themselves.
Yes we should be jealous this is a revolution in the porn industry, if I want to make money offa recurring I think I will simply promote a site that offers $15 recurring without making me pay $500 and having me redesign your site. Call it jealousy, you may be right, I would sure love to have all this extra work to do for you ;)

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Wow I mean... it's like running your own site, daaaayum. Can I get to play support with that, I mean I wouldn't want you to strain yourself, interesting affiliate programs takes one step back its simply mind boggling.
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we still have a few domains we can add to the license and remain completely legit

so what? after you get nine customers youre gonna license 50k more pics for the next ten?
rofl


give up man


and how the fuck am i gonna run support without shell access? i certainly wouldnt trust you to get anything done.
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Alot of custom exclusive content? Man! I know at least half of your models from the content stores!
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Some good points have been made.

Technically, to stay in our license agreement, you'd just be a revsharer of ours, and for the pics we licensed, we still have a few domains we can add to the license and remain completely legit. We have no plans to do anything that would jeopardize our current site.

I believe a few have touched upon this - Who is this suited for? There are a few people out there that wouldn't mind delving into owning their own paysites, but don't want to take the risk. Setting aside the deposit which is fully refundable if they don't any wrong, the only thing they can lose here is their labor. What they gain is a better understanding of this side of the business. It may be a great stepping stone for some.

I realize some people have been burned, and probably because of past experience alone they'll pass this opportunity up, that's a sad reason, but I can't do anything about that. We've always been honest, never shaved, but I guess there's no fool proof way for me to show that. I am just now introducing myself to the community at large, so granted to most I'm fairly unknown, but I'm trying to change that.

Regarding the "no name, offshore" part. I understand this concern. We have the same concern about interested parties so we're asking for a deposit. Kinda of a catch-22. We are a legal corporation, and will sign contracts as such. If it helps any, we can negotiate the deposit, maybe you'd get 50% until we accumulate $500 then you'll get 70%. We open to discussing this.

Hope this helps!
Man your so full of yourself! Thas paysite looks like it's been designed in 15 minutes, has no message AT ALL, and is filled with so so content worth maybe a few K
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name one
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name one
Sarah, Uma and Tiffany to name three off the top of my head

The problem here is that the exclusives would not be available to the others to promote.
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I wanted to bump this for the evening crowd.

I appreciate the inquiries I got and I'm looking forward to working with you.

Please keep in mind this is a great opportunity for those who want to try out having a paysite of their own. You need to decide for yourself if such an opportunity interests you, it's not for everyone.
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If it's not for you, there's no need to criticize it. Others are interested in this. It's a great stepping stone or a very inexpensive way to determine if they want their own paysite.
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:26 PM   #43
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If it's not for you, there's no need to criticize it. Others are interested in this. It's a great stepping stone or a very inexpensive way to determine if they want their own paysite.
But no one is interested, cockbait.
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:29 PM   #44
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this scam was running pretty good a few years ago, guess this guy decided to bring it back.
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:34 PM   #45
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IMO that site won't convert even if it was free..
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:39 PM   #46
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:40 PM   #47
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This is not a scam. And I don't know anything about people trying this a few years ago.

I realize many people have had and sounds like continuing to have problems with people scamming them. That's sad, but to just simply assume I'm scamming with zero evidence is not correct. That site has been around for 4 years, and if I started trying to scam we'd lose all that we've gained during that time.
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Old 01-19-2004, 05:47 PM   #48
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This is so stupid I cannot even think of a reply.

Hell - the basic idea of having a constant backend and creating plenty of frontends is a good one - maybe different frontends will appeal to different customers. I will grant that.

It is also a brilliant idea to outsource the designwork - and try to get paid for it! Brilliant!

Especially if you succeed in finding people who have always thought: "Oh gee! If only I had my own paysite! Then I wouldn't have to work!"

Ok, the suckers who take the bait will probably not get much done - but who cares - at least you get your 500 bucks. So it is a win win situation for you. The only downside is a couple of flames at gfy.

Btw the content SUCKS!

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Old 01-19-2004, 05:48 PM   #49
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The girl on the left looks a bit photoBotched!

a bit?
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:01 PM   #50
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at least you get your 500 bucks
That is strictly a deposit, which I have no intention of keeping. It's simply there to discourage any abuse that could get us shut down.

It's pretty funny (actually pretty lame) that people are finding the need to comment on greatgirls.com design, since that would change to suit one's own taste. Guess people need something to whine about since they can't come up with anything constructive that's actually relevent (except 2 people).
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