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BrentD · 01-19-2004, 10:31 AM

Ok, I have a merchant account that I want to run through a company who offers a good revsahre or affiliate program.

I have hunted around and found that ibill and ccbill are still available, but not sure they would work for my needs.

Can any users of ccbill or ibill answer this questiosn for me?

1). Can I use my merchant account with either of these (ibill' site says I can have my own merchant account but ccbills site didn't say) without paying the visa/mc yearly fees? (the whole reason one uses a true merchant account instead of 3rd party to start with).

I already have a ccbill account for 3rd party but don't use it, so I am wondering more about ccbill and using my own merchasnt account through them. If anyone knows appreciate your answer.

robfantasy · 01-19-2004, 10:38 AM

im guessing that its not a high risk merchant account that you have.

if you process high risk subscription transactions through your non high risk coded account, you will be fucked if your account raises any flags.

anyways, epoch is good.

icedemon · 01-19-2004, 10:40 AM

You should try
http://www.plugnpay.com
They have what they call plug-ins for having a membership subscription service, affiliate service, store, etc..

corvette · 01-19-2004, 10:47 AM

just so you know, at one point we did offer the sort of service that you are requesting, but that was discontinued a while back

BrentD · 01-19-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by corvett
just so you know, at one point we did offer the sort of service that you are requesting, but that was discontinued a while back

With more and more 3rd party processors going under you should bring it back, people like me with their own merchant accounts are in need of places with a good rep and good software to run our accounts through. I have 2 merchants accounts, I have maintained less then a 1% cb ratio since 1997 with both in the adult biz but neither have a good affiliate system built in nor do they work witht eh leased software or bought software I use

Cindyff · 01-19-2004, 11:00 AM

CCbill or Epoch forget Ibill they are dead.

vas · 01-19-2004, 12:02 PM

dont 'high risk' merchant accoutns require a very large number of transactions ?

webair · 01-19-2004, 12:20 PM

give netbilling a shout

BrentD · 01-19-2004, 12:49 PM

Ok I went with gbsgateway.com, they have excellent pricing per trans with no setup fees, no percentages and etc. for merchant accounts and 10-15% for 3rd party, they also have a good affiliate system built in.

Todd over there was awesome at getting us setup right away and was there to help us through it all, great person and great company, well recommended by me.

Thanks Todd you da man!!!!

Calvinguy · 01-19-2004, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vas
dont 'high risk' merchant accoutns require a very large number of transactions ?

No...l. There are not transactions limits at all

MegaPussy · 01-19-2004, 03:22 PM

I'd stick with brand name gateways, you get what you pay for in terms of service, and the smaller ones have smaller fraud DBs to scrub against.

- Titus

vas · 01-19-2004, 03:41 PM

what do you need to get your own merchant stuff?

you need a US business, a bussiness bank account? or anything? what else?

NETbilling · 01-19-2004, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD
Ok, I have a merchant account that I want to run through a company who offers a good revsahre or affiliate program.

I have hunted around and found that ibill and ccbill are still available, but not sure they would work for my needs.

Can any users of ccbill or ibill answer this questiosn for me?

1). Can I use my merchant account with either of these (ibill' site says I can have my own merchant account but ccbills site didn't say) without paying the visa/mc yearly fees? (the whole reason one uses a true merchant account instead of 3rd party to start with).

I already have a ccbill account for 3rd party but don't use it, so I am wondering more about ccbill and using my own merchasnt account through them. If anyone knows appreciate your answer.

Hi Brent,

It was nice chatting with you today. We can set you up immediately and waive our usual $199 setup fee as well. I forgot to mention that earlier.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

icedemon · 01-19-2004, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vas
what do you need to get your own merchant stuff?

you need a US business, a bussiness bank account? or anything? what else?

Talk to Netbilling about setting you up. Good credit helps, but isn't always neccessary.

smk · 01-19-2004, 11:30 PM

You're crazy to go with iBill seeing how they recently got owned and several hosting companies had break-ins from the crackers due to iBill harvesting such sensitive data so poorly.

Just my

Rand · 01-20-2004, 09:33 AM

BrentD,

Paycom/Epoch offers gateway services with scallable scrubbing for those with their own merchant account. Registration fees, if any, are a funtion of your merchnat bank and not the IPSP.

You can use our gateway for high risk or non-high risk processing and there is no set up fee. Your only cost is a per transaction fee.

Drop us a line or give us a call if we can be of any assitance.

[email protected]. 888-627-3888.

--Rand

vas · 01-20-2004, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by icedemon

Talk to Netbilling about setting you up. Good credit helps, but isn't always neccessary.

how about no credit haha ;)

goBigtime · 01-20-2004, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Cindyff
... forget Ibill they are dead.

Since when?

You don't by chance log in as 'merchantman' once in awhile do you?

Ever wonder why Quiet puts all his millions of eggs in one basket year after year?... even while processors are dropping like flies?

goBigtime · 01-20-2004, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smk
You're crazy to go with iBill seeing how they recently got owned and several hosting companies had break-ins from the crackers due to iBill harvesting such sensitive data so poorly.

Just my

For your 4th post on GFY, could you explain what you are trying to say above?

goBigtime · 01-20-2004, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MegaPussy
I'd stick with brand name gateways, you get what you pay for in terms of service, and the smaller ones have smaller fraud DBs to scrub against.

- Titus

As long as you get your rebill database and your own merchant account(s), I would think the ball is always in your court no matter who you go with.

As far as fraud DB's go... larger databases that have been building up for nearly ten years might not be in your best interest either -- especially if the companies do a very aggressive scrub with those massive lists.

How long should someone be punished for charging back a deceptive $120+ charge after thinking they were going to be charged $2.99 for something anyway?

How many of those (legitimate) consumers are in your processors fraud list?

NETbilling · 01-20-2004, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD
Ok, I have a merchant account that I want to run through a company who offers a good revsahre or affiliate program.

I have hunted around and found that ibill and ccbill are still available, but not sure they would work for my needs.

Can any users of ccbill or ibill answer this questiosn for me?

1). Can I use my merchant account with either of these (ibill' site says I can have my own merchant account but ccbills site didn't say) without paying the visa/mc yearly fees? (the whole reason one uses a true merchant account instead of 3rd party to start with).

I already have a ccbill account for 3rd party but don't use it, so I am wondering more about ccbill and using my own merchasnt account through them. If anyone knows appreciate your answer.

Brent,m

Thanks for signing up with us. Your setup will be done in about 2 hours.

Mitch

BrentD · 01-21-2004, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling

Brent,m

Thanks for signing up with us. Your setup will be done in about 2 hours.

Mitch

Thanks, now if I could jsut get Pete with this software to make the netbilling work so it will send as a weblink and use your secure form instead of a non secure form in his software where it asks the customer to enter CC info without a secure sever and their software is setup to use it as secure...DOH!!!

Thanks for the quick setup, the only complaint I have so far is the looks of the merchant interface, but I can live with it

Kicker · 01-21-2004, 02:12 AM

CCBill

NETbilling · 01-21-2004, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD

Thanks, now if I could jsut get Pete with this software to make the netbilling work so it will send as a weblink and use your secure form instead of a non secure form in his software where it asks the customer to enter CC info without a secure sever and their software is setup to use it as secure...DOH!!!

Thanks for the quick setup, the only complaint I have so far is the looks of the merchant interface, but I can live with it

Hi,

What is wrong with the interface? Our merchants love it?

Mitch

scoreman · 01-21-2004, 01:53 PM

You might also want to investigate www.dhdmedia.com . We dont use them but they might be what your looking for.

Kjell · 01-21-2004, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD
Ok, I have a merchant account that I want to run through a company who offers a good revsahre or affiliate program.

1). Can I use my merchant account with either of these (ibill' site says I can have my own merchant account but ccbills site didn't say) without paying the visa/mc yearly fees? (the whole reason one uses a true merchant account instead of 3rd party to start with).

I already have a ccbill account for 3rd party but don't use it, so I am wondering more about ccbill and using my own merchasnt account through them. If anyone knows appreciate your answer.

Hello BrentD,

Jettis can help. We have a large number of clients with their own merchant accounts going through our gateway that are very happy with our affiliate tracking software. Our software is currently being used by Flyntdigital and Vividcash and is feature rich. Give us a call @ 1-800-4-JETTIS or float us an e-mail at [email protected].

Kjell

NETbilling · 01-21-2004, 09:45 PM

Brent,

You are all setup on our side and I will talk to Pete to get his end done and fixed for you.

Hit me up tomorrow.

Thanks, Mitch

icedemon · 01-21-2004, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vas

how about no credit haha ;)

I had got a high risk merchant account with my first business in 96. I had no credit at the time either. It doesn't hurt to try and get a merchant account. You'll either get it or you won't. The most you might lose is the application fee, if there is one.

01-19-2004, 10:31 AM	#1
BrentD ZothNET.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,422	iBill or CCBill with merchant account? Ok, I have a merchant account that I want to run through a company who offers a good revsahre or affiliate program. I have hunted around and found that ibill and ccbill are still available, but not sure they would work for my needs. Can any users of ccbill or ibill answer this questiosn for me? 1). Can I use my merchant account with either of these (ibill' site says I can have my own merchant account but ccbills site didn't say) without paying the visa/mc yearly fees? (the whole reason one uses a true merchant account instead of 3rd party to start with). I already have a ccbill account for 3rd party but don't use it, so I am wondering more about ccbill and using my own merchasnt account through them. If anyone knows appreciate your answer. __________________ WordPress Specialist Xenforo/IPS/VB Specialist https://www.zothnet.com

01-19-2004, 10:38 AM	#2
robfantasy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Medellin, Colombia Posts: 6,445	im guessing that its not a high risk merchant account that you have. if you process high risk subscription transactions through your non high risk coded account, you will be fucked if your account raises any flags. anyways, epoch is good. __________________ Looking to speak w/ high volume nutra CPA affiliates or networks... msg me

01-19-2004, 10:40 AM	#3
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Cindyff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,187	CCbill or Epoch forget Ibill they are dead.

01-19-2004, 12:02 PM	#7
vas Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 562	dont 'high risk' merchant accoutns require a very large number of transactions ?

01-19-2004, 12:49 PM	#9
BrentD ZothNET.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,422	Ok I went with gbsgateway.com, they have excellent pricing per trans with no setup fees, no percentages and etc. for merchant accounts and 10-15% for 3rd party, they also have a good affiliate system built in. Todd over there was awesome at getting us setup right away and was there to help us through it all, great person and great company, well recommended by me. Thanks Todd you da man!!!! __________________ WordPress Specialist Xenforo/IPS/VB Specialist https://www.zothnet.com

01-19-2004, 03:22 PM	#11
MegaPussy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 243	I'd stick with brand name gateways, you get what you pay for in terms of service, and the smaller ones have smaller fraud DBs to scrub against. - Titus __________________ Tabloid Cash - Fresh New Concept! www.tabloidcash.com [email protected]

01-19-2004, 03:41 PM	#12
vas Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 562	what do you need to get your own merchant stuff? you need a US business, a bussiness bank account? or anything? what else?

01-19-2004, 11:30 PM	#15
smk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 7	You're crazy to go with iBill seeing how they recently got owned and several hosting companies had break-ins from the crackers due to iBill harvesting such sensitive data so poorly. Just my

01-20-2004, 09:33 AM	#16
Rand Industry Vet Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 2,663	BrentD, Paycom/Epoch offers gateway services with scallable scrubbing for those with their own merchant account. Registration fees, if any, are a funtion of your merchnat bank and not the IPSP. You can use our gateway for high risk or non-high risk processing and there is no set up fee. Your only cost is a per transaction fee. Drop us a line or give us a call if we can be of any assitance. [email protected]. 888-627-3888. --Rand __________________ -- Rand Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

01-21-2004, 02:12 AM	#23
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01-21-2004, 01:53 PM	#25
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	You might also want to investigate www.dhdmedia.com . We dont use them but they might be what your looking for. __________________

01-21-2004, 09:45 PM	#27
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,582	Brent, You are all setup on our side and I will talk to Pete to get his end done and fixed for you. Hit me up tomorrow. Thanks, Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!