Epoch - Processing Paris Hilton sextape?

[KingK7]

http://www.sexmoviestoday.com/philton/

Somehow I doubt Epoch knows about this.

[Oracle Porn]

how do you know its epoch?

[Trax]

cuz thats the url:

https://wnu.com/secure/fpost.cgi?co_...0Me%20In%20Now!&username=erthrsth&x_refer=&x_reseller=mp&x_sitec ode=smt&zip=52987



that will cost him processing for sure
if someone reports him its bye bye sexmoviestoday

[VeriSexy]

Hmmm, that domain name looks familiar

[KingK7]

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
how do you know its epoch?

PAYCOM.NET *JJC will appear on your card holder statement.

It goes to an Epoch signup page. Simple as that.
Through:
http://www.fatpaychecks.com/ps/fpost/fpost.cgi

[Oracle Porn]

http://www.fatpaychecks.com are the owners

[KingK7]

Funny thing is they cant claim some rogue affiliate did it either, as the page is hosted on the main site domain.

[kenny]

It is slightly different no TOS link below the user/password box.

[KingK7]

It originates from this:
http://www.call-kelly.com/
http://www.call-kelly.com/paris/

Now thats a domain with some decent traffic...

[kenny]

http://www.jessica.wildteensonline.com/index.html

That is the real one.

[Epoch]

This issue has been dealt with..

Clay
EPOCH

[Veterans Day]

Originally posted by Epoch
This issue has been dealt with..

Clay
EPOCH

[xdcdave]

and the declined transactions go to CCBill now as alternate.. I dont think they'd appreciate the chargebacks much either.

[chowda]

Originally posted by Veterans Day

dude, wheres my database?

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by xdcdave
and the declined transactions go to CCBill now as alternate.. I dont think they'd appreciate the chargebacks much either.

ccbill Account Number 919412-0000

[corvette]

this issue has been addressed on our end as well

[Trax]

so what does this mean?
no processing for fatpaychecks no more???

[bigdog]

Where is TheMan to defend himself?

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by corvett
this issue has been addressed on our end as well

Just out of curiosity , how do you deal with these companies. ?

Is the money returned to the surfers ?

Is the money forfeited to ccbill / epoch ?

Do you inform visa / police ?

Are the accounts closed / warned / ?

[JDog]

Why is it that CCBIll came up then, and that the form wasn't active! I think their already turned off!

jDOG

[Kick Ass Chat]

Originally posted by *Smokey The Bear*


Just out of curiosity , how do you deal with these companies. ?

Is the money returned to the surfers ?

Is the money forfeited to ccbill / epoch ?

Do you inform visa / police ?

Are the accounts closed / warned / ?

Good questions

[Dveron]

Good response time by Epoch and CCbill.

[corvette]

Smokey, we have different policies depending on the situation/circumstances?I am not going to get into them right now, but I can say that we have never had a clients funds forfeited to us?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Basically that company died for Paris Hilton

[Smokey The Bear]

Some others
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http://www.billybadboy.com/paris-video.html

http://processor.netmgt.com/paycom/paycom_paypage.php

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http://www.khamil.com/page2.htm

https://secure.ibill.com/cgi-win/ccard/ccard.exe

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http://www.amateur-flix.com/phfakegoogle.asp

http://secure1.netbilling.com/cs/store.cgi

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LOL you gotta love this

http://www.liquidgeneration.com/flix/parissextape.asp

They are actually showing the tape for free . !!

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by corvett
Smokey, we have different policies depending on the situation/circumstances?I am not going to get into them right now, but I can say that we have never had a clients funds forfeited to us?

I understand you reluctance to share EXACT details , but , do you inform the police , fbi of these thefts ??

Its pretty clear theft if your offering something you dont actually have to sell.

In this particular case , if lets say a user signed up today for your ccbill processed site as mentioned above, will they get a refund ?? are they informed ?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Saw that last week Smokey but still it to funny!

[Smokey The Bear]

http://www.amateur-flix.com/phfakegoogle.asp

http://www.amateur-flix.com/join.htm

Using ccbill to process supposed orders of the paris hilton tape thru mail

Using google adwords for the keywords Paris Hilton

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by AlienQ
Saw that last week Smokey but still it to funny!

HEH it was funny because i wa slike hmm i have never seen this version of the tape before, then a few more seconds in im thinking . hmm gee that paris hilton looks like a man with a wig. heh

[Techie Media]

Interresting thread.

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by Lightning
Interresting thread.

Your right about not getting the truth , but they also have to protect themselves.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

This how long term processors are targeted and in the long term honest business will loose out.

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by *Smokey The Bear*
http://www.amateur-flix.com/phfakegoogle.asp

http://www.amateur-flix.com/join.htm

Using ccbill to process supposed orders of the paris hilton tape thru mail

Using google adwords for the keywords Paris Hilton

Bump for the ccbill employee to read.

[TheMan]

Hello
Ok I will explain myself to everyone..
I just know what works and figured if I added the clips that we could find inside then we would NOT be scamming anyone.
There is the cancel link in the members area and in the emails they get. We just figured with the 30 minutes free they have enough time to look at the members area and see if they are even happy with the rest of the stuff. As we all know there isnt enough paris stiff to keep a member recurring month after month. We do mention 500+ other full lenth movies as well.

It's a way to expose the members area more and this was a test for a two days and not something we were ever gonna launch for webmasters to resell.

in no way are we misleading the surfers... really
Check it out...

Anyways if the processors want me to remove it then I will no problem. I didnt see a problem with this. I figured the only problem I would have is maybe a call from a lawyer telling me to remove the paris and I would have.

Dunno.. Was just something to test... feel free to say your says but I meant nothing bad.

Thanks

[TheMan]

..

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by TheMan
Hello
Ok I will explain myself to everyone..
I just know what works and figured if I added the clips that we could find inside then we would NOT be scamming anyone.
There is the cancel link in the members area and in the emails they get. We just figured with the 30 minutes free they have enough time to look at the members area and see if they are even happy with the rest of the stuff. As we all know there isnt enough paris stiff to keep a member recurring month after month. We do mention 500+ other full lenth movies as well.

It's a way to expose the members area more and this was a test for a two days and not something we were ever gonna launch for webmasters to resell.

in no way are we misleading the surfers... really
Check it out...

Anyways if the processors want me to remove it then I will no problem. I didnt see a problem with this. I figured the only problem I would have is maybe a call from a lawyer telling me to remove the paris and I would have.

Dunno.. Was just something to test... feel free to say your says but I meant nothing bad.

Thanks

I wasnt beefing at you in particular but , You cant sell something you dont own, or dont have the right to sell.

Or else i could just open up a website and sell windows xp for $10 until microsoft told me not too .

[bigdog]

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear
Some others

http://naughtymagazines.com/scandals...p?cid=79a16s7u

https://www.ctbilling.com/bill.php?j...asson=79a16s7u

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http://www.billybadboy.com/paris-video.html

http://processor.netmgt.com/paycom/paycom_paypage.php

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http://www.khamil.com/page2.htm

https://secure.ibill.com/cgi-win/ccard/ccard.exe

---------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.amateur-flix.com/phfakegoogle.asp

http://secure1.netbilling.com/cs/store.cgi

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LOL you gotta love this

http://www.liquidgeneration.com/flix/parissextape.asp

They are actually showing the tape for free . !!

hey stop posting urls

[Trax]

only question left:
do the processors namely ccbill and epoch have the balls to pull fatpaychecks or will they support it because of the other business with legit sites they have

that could be very interesting

[TheMan]

Originally posted by *Smokey The Bear*


I wasnt beefing at you in particular but , You cant sell something you dont own, or dont have the right to sell.

Or else i could just open up a website and sell windows xp for $10 until microsoft told me not too .

I hear ya... I just saw so many others doing it..

Got good sales lol


btw anyone who what KingK7 does?
Programs or anything?

thanks

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by Trax
only question left:
do the processors namely ccbill and epoch have the balls to pull fatpaychecks or will they support it because of the other business with legit sites they have

that could be very interesting

They push some good numbers if i was ccbill i wouldnt drop them like a bad habit, i would merely explain if caught pushing the paris hilton video again they will be pulled.

1 warning.

[gregtx]

Originally posted by TheMan



I hear ya... I just saw so many others doing it..

Got good sales lol


btw anyone who what KingK7 does?
Programs or anything?

thanks

I hear he is just some gay dude who works at wendy's but likes to read gfy in his spare time

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by TheMan



I hear ya... I just saw so many others doing it..

Got good sales lol


btw anyone who what KingK7 does?
Programs or anything?

thanks

Like i said no personal beefs , just an opinion

Im pushing hilton traffic myself and have quite a few good ph keywords, but theres a line that you must not cross.

[TheMan]

Originally posted by *Smokey The Bear*


Like i said no personal beefs , just an opinion

Im pushing hilton traffic myself and have quite a few good ph keywords, but theres a line that you must not cross.

yea np
I understand.
Thanks

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by gregtx



I hear he is just some gay dude who works at wendy's but likes to read gfy in his spare time

Its funny you should mention that , because the other day i went thru the wendy's drive-thru and there was a deadpan lensman lookalike working the booth. And i said " Lensman ? " and he was like "wtf would you like fries with that." I wanted to grab a picture of him but i didnt have a camera handy. I kick myself for that now.

[BradShaw]

I met kingk at wendys. He gave me such great "service" that I bought him a webtv for gay pride week.

[Trax]

i can understand the man i have to admit

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by Trax
i can understand the man i have to admit

I think we all can After all its about the money.

But theres always a line.

Morally there is a big difference between selling child porn and a video you dont own.

But by the law you are stepping over the line in both regards.

The truecelebs site does it fairly legally.

They dont promise the tape they only promise "gossip" about the tape.

http://www.paris-hilton-video.cc/paris_hilton_video/

[Trax]

Originally posted by *Smokey The Bear*


I think we all can After all its about the money.

But theres always a line.

Morally there is a big difference between selling child porn and a video you dont own.

But by the law you are stepping over the line in both regards.

The truecelebs site does it fairly legally.

They dont promise the tape they only promise "gossip" about the tape.

http://www.paris-hilton-video.cc/paris_hilton_video/

well
while talking about moral in adult business we could start the 100 TRAZILLIONED discussion about

dialers
crosssells
rebills at 50 bucks for no content sites and so on

you know what i mean

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally posted by Trax



well
while talking about moral in adult business we could start the 100 TRAZILLIONED discussion about

dialers
crosssells
rebills at 50 bucks for no content sites and so on

you know what i mean

Yeah lets kick over that can of worms!
Count me in!

[Troels]

Originally posted by TheMan



I hear ya... I just saw so many others doing it..

Got good sales lol


btw anyone who what KingK7 does?
Programs or anything?

thanks

Tranny pornstar.