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blackmonsters 01-18-2004 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
First of all... the Earth is spinning, and rotating around the sun... correct? In fact, it's going at an incredible rate of speed.

Now, if time travel was to be true, it would infact allow you to travel through time, NOT space.

Meaning, if you were to jump through time so much as 5 minutes.... or even less.... then the Earth would have continued to spin and move while you stayed stationary.... meaning when you reach the time destination... you will either be stuck inside the planet or launched out in space.

If you seriously think you can start in a room, travel through time and end up inside that same room... you're very much mistaken.

Yeah, unless you had enough fucking brains to travel to the point of time where the Earth had rotated back into the exact position that it was when you traveled. Ya, know, like travel in increments of 364.25 X 24 fucking hours.

NoCarrier 01-18-2004 02:26 PM

Review about the movie

The Butterfly Effect A

Starring Ashton Kutcher, Amy Smart, and Ethan Suplee

Directed by J. Mackye Gruber and Eric Bress

Rated R for violence, sexual content, nudity, language, and brief drug use

Appropriate for ages 17+

The Story: According to the chaotic Butterfly Effect theory, a butterfly?s wings flapping in Brazil has the potential of causing a tornado in Texas. In other words simple actions can have a major effect on future events. In this film, a young man (Kutcher) devises a method of traveling back in time to change his past events in the hopes of repairing the present and the future, only to find that things are made worse.

The Good: I had one serious problem with this film: I couldn?t find anything wrong with it. The story and writing is absolutely fabulous. The directing is sharp and intriguing. Even Kutcher (who I had no respect for before this film) was perfectly cast and took the role very seriously. The beautiful Amy Smart also proves that she can act as she plays many different characters convincingly throughout Kutcher?s alternate universes. Kudos go to these brave filmmakers and New Line studio for bringing us this very unusual and risky film.

The Bad: There are lots of scenes that many will find very offensive. It is very appropriate that the kids in the film go to see the movie Seven, for this film is just as disturbing. It is violent in a much scarier way than you could possibly prepare yourself for. In other words, weak hearts and stomachs need not see this one.

The Summary: This terrific but disturbing psychological thriller will have you cringing and thinking at the same time. Hitchcock would be proud.


http://www.dannyminton.com/the_butterfly_effect.htm

kenny 01-18-2004 02:27 PM

Go way back in the day and convince the people that I am God with my vast knowledge and modern day equipment.

Come back to the modern era to find many statues of me and people that still worship me from the stories passed through time.

:1orglaugh

mistersoft 01-18-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor
I'd go back to the time of free love and no AIDs and fuck a lot of bitches.
Bad thing is at that time they didn't shave!

kenny 01-18-2004 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Review about the movie

The Butterfly Effect A

Starring Ashton Kutcher, Amy Smart, and Ethan Suplee

Directed by J. Mackye Gruber and Eric Bress

Rated R for violence, sexual content, nudity, language, and brief drug use

Appropriate for ages 17+

The Story: According to the chaotic Butterfly Effect theory, a butterfly?s wings flapping in Brazil has the potential of causing a tornado in Texas. In other words simple actions can have a major effect on future events. In this film, a young man (Kutcher) devises a method of traveling back in time to change his past events in the hopes of repairing the present and the future, only to find that things are made worse.

The Good: I had one serious problem with this film: I couldn?t find anything wrong with it. The story and writing is absolutely fabulous. The directing is sharp and intriguing. Even Kutcher (who I had no respect for before this film) was perfectly cast and took the role very seriously. The beautiful Amy Smart also proves that she can act as she plays many different characters convincingly throughout Kutcher?s alternate universes. Kudos go to these brave filmmakers and New Line studio for bringing us this very unusual and risky film.

The Bad: There are lots of scenes that many will find very offensive. It is very appropriate that the kids in the film go to see the movie Seven, for this film is just as disturbing. It is violent in a much scarier way than you could possibly prepare yourself for. In other words, weak hearts and stomachs need not see this one.

The Summary: This terrific but disturbing psychological thriller will have you cringing and thinking at the same time. Hitchcock would be proud.


http://www.dannyminton.com/the_butterfly_effect.htm


For every action there is a reaction. For every possible reaction there is already a alternate reality split for it. Well according to this quantum theory:

http://www.station1.net/DouglasJones/many.htm

StuartD 01-18-2004 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters


Yeah, unless you had enough fucking brains to travel to the point of time where the Earth had rotated back into the exact position that it was when you traveled. Ya, know, like travel in increments of 364.25 X 24 fucking hours.

If you had enough brains, you'd know that the Earth doesn't come back to the exact same position as it was a year ago... it's not like the planet is rotating on a piece of perfectly level ice.

aphexbab 01-18-2004 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by mistersoft


Bad thing is at that time they didn't shave!

Then bring a Gillette Venus 3 and bring that revolution sooner.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-18-2004 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I would have arranged for a larger cataclysmic meteor than the one that hit the planet 65 million years ago so that nothing survived.

This planet is evil.

I concurr, need help?

triumph 01-18-2004 02:56 PM

I would go and give bill gates money to work out of an office instead of his garage and get a small percentage! :glugglug

Libertine 01-18-2004 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier
Rules : It cannot be about [...] possible love.

Fuck that. That's the only reason I'd want to go back in history.

Spunky 01-18-2004 02:59 PM

:glugglug 50 Time Travellers

blackmonsters 01-18-2004 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan


If you had enough brains, you'd know that the Earth doesn't come back to the exact same position as it was a year ago... it's not like the planet is rotating on a piece of perfectly level ice.

If you could travel in time then you would travel to the location of Earth at that time so the increments aren't needed anyway.
You are not thinking.
:1orglaugh

Don't give up your porn job for time travel.

StuartD 01-18-2004 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters


If you could travel in time then you would travel to the location of Earth at that time so the increments aren't needed anyway.
You are not thinking.
:1orglaugh

Don't give up your porn job for time travel.

Uhmm... have you ever checked into just how very rarely the Earth comes back to the exact same point in space as it was once before??

Want a hint??

THE SUN IS MOVING TOO!!!

The entire universe is in constant motion... the Earth going around the sun doesn't mean that when the Earth comes full circle that it'll be in the exact same spot... it won't be.. cause the sun won't even be either.

It's all moving!!! NEVER EVER in the history of the galaxy passed or future will the Earth be in the same point as it is at this very moment.

Who's the one who shouldn't give up the day job?

arial 01-18-2004 03:50 PM

I'd go back and buy every good domain name there is!

Ironhorse 01-18-2004 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
i would go back and make sure bush didnt win the election.
I would become his college buddy and make sure he stays a druggie :thumbsup

tootie 01-18-2004 03:58 PM

I'd go back to 1991 and call my boyfriend on time. He was shot and killed that night and if I'd called him 30 minutes earlier, when I was supposed to, he would have been on the phone with me and he'd probably be alive today. (True story.) :(

blackmonsters 01-18-2004 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan


Uhmm... have you ever checked into just how very rarely the Earth comes back to the exact same point in space as it was once before??

Want a hint??

THE SUN IS MOVING TOO!!!

The entire universe is in constant motion... the Earth going around the sun doesn't mean that when the Earth comes full circle that it'll be in the exact same spot... it won't be.. cause the sun won't even be either.

It's all moving!!! NEVER EVER in the history of the galaxy passed or future will the Earth be in the same point as it is at this very moment.

Who's the one who shouldn't give up the day job?

Oh, and not being able to determine where the Earth is going to be at a particular time is why the astronauts that went to the moon could not locate Earth on their way back and crashed into the sun.

NoCarrier 01-18-2004 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan


Uhmm... have you ever checked into just how very rarely the Earth comes back to the exact same point in space as it was once before??

Want a hint??

THE SUN IS MOVING TOO!!!

The entire universe is in constant motion... the Earth going around the sun doesn't mean that when the Earth comes full circle that it'll be in the exact same spot... it won't be.. cause the sun won't even be either.

It's all moving!!! NEVER EVER in the history of the galaxy passed or future will the Earth be in the same point as it is at this very moment.

Who's the one who shouldn't give up the day job?


Hahahah you got owned man.. If go go back in time, you will know the exact position of the earth because it's propably calculated somewhere in a database ;)


Example : I want to go back in 1991, I'll know where the earth is located because it's already been done :)


Your theory does not apply in the future. But in the past, blackmonsters is right :winkwink:

arial 01-18-2004 04:05 PM

Nah I take mine back, I'd go back and find out who really killed JFK.

blackmonsters 01-18-2004 04:11 PM

We're all full of shit!!

Every single one of us would go back to the OJ murder and see it all happen just to prove our side.

Ironhorse 01-18-2004 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan

It's all moving!!! NEVER EVER in the history of the galaxy passed or future will the Earth be in the same point as it is at this very moment.

Of course you don't really know this for a fact.

Paul 01-18-2004 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren
i would go back and make sure bush didnt win the election.
:1orglaugh Thats actually a good one

bhutocracy 01-18-2004 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan
First of all... the Earth is spinning, and rotating around the sun... correct? In fact, it's going at an incredible rate of speed.

Now, if time travel was to be true, it would infact allow you to travel through time, NOT space.

Meaning, if you were to jump through time so much as 5 minutes.... or even less.... then the Earth would have continued to spin and move while you stayed stationary.... meaning when you reach the time destination... you will either be stuck inside the planet or launched out in space.

If you seriously think you can start in a room, travel through time and end up inside that same room... you're very much mistaken.

ahhahah you know I was thinking THE EXACT SAME THING last week, while I was watching back to the future 3 on tv. It kinda popped in my head that the delorean wouldn't meet up with the tracks as the earth was spinning as well as orbiting around the sun

necoeds 01-18-2004 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor


Couldn't you travel to a time when the position of the earth was the same as when you left? It would limit destinations but it might be possible. Or would that be thrown off by the fact that the whole galaxy is also moving through space while the earth rotates around the sun?

I guess my real question is...is the earth ever in the same place twice?

my thoughts exactly

bhutocracy 01-18-2004 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier



Hahahah you got owned man.. If go go back in time, you will know the exact position of the earth because it's propably calculated somewhere in a database ;)


Example : I want to go back in 1991, I'll know where the earth is located because it's already been done :)


Your theory does not apply in the future. But in the past, blackmonsters is right :winkwink:


no it's not, scientists aren't actually recording every last detail about the earth's position somewhere in a database, there are no measurements fine enough to calculate it. You guys aren't thinking in the right terms, it's as though you think somewhere a scientist is writing "x=35, y =78, z=134, spin equals 24" and thats enough to go back to time on lol.
Sure we're taking some measurements.. but in relation to what? the sun? the WHOLE SOLAR SYSTEM IS MOVING! the earth changes shape..
sure you'll know where abouts it is and ROUGHLY where abouts you'd come out at but not fine enough to not end up in a wall or a mountain. think of it like drawing two perfectly parallel lines on a piece of a4 paper.. sure they look absolutely perfect, but now extend those lines by 1000 miles and you'll see that at the end they're several football fields apart.. those are the sorts of measurements you're dealing with only several more DIMENSIONS to worry about.
We can't even get stuff to land on mars properly! or we calculate stuff in inches and centimeteres and things blow up.
The only way it could be done is by trial and error, looking for old news articles of feet suddenly appering sticking out of national monuments and then sending someone back in time to stop yourself from doing the experiment until you get it right..

it won't happen anyways until sentient super computers are built and enslave the human race.

bhutocracy 01-18-2004 05:42 PM

the earth spins at 464 metres a second.. so even a split second's difference can put you into the next suburb! and the process better take less than a millionth of a nanosecond otherwise there will be a trail of blood and organs for a couple of metres as your body gets transmitted and the parts that arrived a nanosecond earlier are moving with the earth as opposed to the parts arriving a nanosecond later at the original xyz/time co'ords
now factor in slight changes in the earth's shape not forgetting that a metre or two metres at this level is important, changes in the solarsystem, changes in our ability to measure time over several years, slight changes in earth's spinning speed because ALTHOUGH EVERY THING IS IN CONSTANT MOTION it's NOT IN CONTINUOUSLY MATHEMATICALLY PREDICTABLE MOTION.

and there you have it.. pretty fucking hard to do if not weighing on impossible, and when you have the ability to do it will time travel even be a priority or will killing the machines? :)

Donny 01-18-2004 05:46 PM

Go back and buy a winning ticket to Powerball Jackpots over $200 million.

Invest in Microsoft when it first went public.

Etc...

bhutocracy 01-18-2004 05:47 PM

we don't even HAVE THE TOOLS to take the measurements we need to make the calculations needed. But anyways.. It could be trial and errored extensively with a extremely small success rate... probably sub .01% although the odds would get better the more tials done and the more data recorded to rule out or confirm certain co'ords. and even then you're relying on the passage of time not disturbing certain documents that have to withstand 50 years of upheaval so the future people know it's successful, as well as everyone not dying of horrible strains of future viruses as soon as the future person breaths.

Donny 01-18-2004 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Go back and buy a winning ticket to Powerball Jackpots over $200 million.

Invest in Microsoft when it first went public.

Etc...

Shit. Now I see the "no money" rule.

In that case...

Tell Pete Rose not to bet on baseball. :1orglaugh

NoCarrier 01-18-2004 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy

it won't happen anyways until sentient super computers are built and enslave the human race.

You just lost the last remaining credibility about your theory. Sorry you lose.

Next! :glugglug

NoCarrier 01-18-2004 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
we don't even HAVE THE TOOLS to take the measurements we need to make the calculations needed. But anyways.. It could be trial and errored extensively with a extremely small success rate... probably sub .01% although the odds would get better the more tials done and the more data recorded to rule out or confirm certain co'ords. and even then you're relying on the passage of time not disturbing certain documents that have to withstand 50 years of upheaval so the future people know it's successful, as well as everyone not dying of horrible strains of future viruses as soon as the future person breaths.
If you lived 120 years ago, you'be the kind of stuborn scientist saying that it's impossible for a plane to fly and that the possibilty was like 0,00000000000000001% after 10000000000000000 plane crashes :glugglug

Chapter7 01-18-2004 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier


If you lived 120 years ago, you'be the kind of stuborn scientist saying that it's impossible for a plane to fly and that the possibilty was like 0,00000000000000001% after 10000000000000000 plane crashes :glugglug

Wasn't there already working planes 120 years ago?

NoCarrier 01-18-2004 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Chapter7


Wasn't there already working planes 120 years ago?

At 10:30 A.M. on December 17, 1903, Orville Wright achieved the first piloted, sustained, controlled and powered flight. His brother, Wilbur Wright, stood by and timed the flight with a stopwatch. The first flight lasted twelve seconds and the aircraft flew 100 yards

http://aviation-history.com/early/wright.htm

SoundMan 01-18-2004 06:19 PM

I would go to Roswell area 51 with all the best Digi Video-Cam stuff and file the space aliens and UFO's.

NoCarrier 01-18-2004 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoundMan
I would go to Roswell area 51 with all the best Digi Video-Cam stuff and file the space aliens and UFO's.
Yeah! Nice! :thumbsup I'd like to know about that one as well!

TurboTrucker 01-18-2004 06:27 PM

Time travel is possible. I'm traveling forward through time as I type.

Chapter7 01-18-2004 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier


At 10:30 A.M. on December 17, 1903, Orville Wright achieved the first piloted, sustained, controlled and powered flight. His brother, Wilbur Wright, stood by and timed the flight with a stopwatch. The first flight lasted twelve seconds and the aircraft flew 100 yards

http://aviation-history.com/early/wright.htm

Not talking about manned flight. I know the egyptians had modelled airplanes that when built today with their design, actually fly.

bhutocracy 01-18-2004 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier


You just lost the last remaining credibility about your theory. Sorry you lose.

Next! :glugglug

it was a joke you tard, I'm sorry you can't comprehend fully the enormity of the undertaking and have to resort to bland "we didn't think we could fly either". I win.

Za Ha 01-18-2004 06:31 PM

I would stop 911.

bhutocracy 01-18-2004 06:32 PM

plus I never said is was 100% impossible just insanely hard compared to idiots thinking that the earth 50 years ago from right now is in the same spot "because we orbit the sun".
Also there was a large element of truth in my joking about sentient machines, time travel and this sort of breakthrough will only be made possible by using the sort of sentient super machines that will be made possible in several decades time.


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